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Stheno

I'm out having dinner at the moment in a local hotel.

Ten minutes ago a woman came down with two kids under four, plonked them in the seat beside me and left them and went off. The kids started shouting down the room at her and she come s back with popcorn and a tablet of some sorts and plugs it in, then tells the kids she'll be down with grandad the other side of the bar.

When I asked her if she was going to leave the kids on their own she said yes as their toy needed to be charged. Eventually she decided that she would sit with them while the toy charges

Is this normal or is this woman just nuts?

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Spanish Eyes

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Isn;t that but of a contradiction?

Mollycoddled and ignored/allowed to run riot are two different things.

As to the "seen and not heard" bit - that doesn't exist and never did. Unless the child in question never leaves the house.

Mollycoddled to me means they are "precious" little things and can do no wrong, whilst everyone around them wants to throttle them, but the parents cannot or will not see that in their little darlings. It's all part of their education and exposure to the world you see.

Ignored is what is described in the OP. Equally bad.

[Deleted User]

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

But we were supervised at all times, and were never let out of our parents' sight.

Anyway, if you had bothered to read my post you will see that I do distance myself from children in an eating out setting. It ain't no fun anymore being surrounded by spoilt brats who think they own the place, and are not disciplined by their parents.

I read your post, it's like many others I read on here. Grown adults so discombobulated by the presence of kids that they think it's acceptable to refer to them all in derogatory language, complaining that parents think the world revolves around their kids, while simultaneously complaining that it doesn't revolve around them.

Spanish Eyes

Anya Substantial Zen wrote: »

Then back to the mines.

It's the chimney sweep for him!

Stheno

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Went on the bus actually

JaysIs we didn't have them when I walked to school

[Deleted User]

Stheno wrote: »

I generally don't mind children around me but not unsupervised with their parents away drinking

I know Stheno, it's the one's who can only refer to kids as brats I'm talking about. There's no middle ground with them.

James Bond Junior

I take it your female stheno? Because sadly in this world a woman wouldn't leave her children alone beside a man in case he stole them or worse.

petrolcan

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Went on the bus actually

That brings back some memories :-)

Stheno

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I take it your female stheno? Because sadly in this world a woman wouldn't leave her children alone beside a man in case he stole them or worse.

Twas beside me and my male partner

mikemac1

Are you still there?

Have another drink, gwan

One eyed Jack

OP you're an intelligent adult, and you had the common sense to call that woman out on abandoning her children while she went off to the other end of the bar.

What I can't get my head around is why, instead of having a word with management, or calling the Gardai and having the woman and her children removed from the premises, you thought it better to start a thread in AH about it?

I'm not up on any moral high horse here, but may I ask do you actually give a damn about those children's welfare, or were you only thinking of yourself in starting what you knew would be a contentious thread about it?

You're hardly in any position to be judging anyone when you had the opportunity to do something about it, and you start a thread more concerned about whether it's normal or not. You know well it's not normal.

ziggyman17

Children should not be in places that serve alcohol..

Tilly

One eyed Jack wrote: »

OP you're an intelligent adult, and you had the common sense to call that woman out on abandoning her children while she went off to the other end of the bar.

What I can't get my head around is why, instead of having a word with management, or calling the Gardai and having the woman and her children removed from the premises, you thought it better to start a thread in AH about it?

I'm not up on any moral high horse here, but may I ask do you actually give a damn about those children's welfare, or were you only thinking of yourself in starting what you knew would be a contentious thread about it?

You're hardly in any position to be judging anyone when you had the opportunity to do something about it, and you start a thread more concerned about whether it's normal or not. You know well it's not normal.

WTF?

petrolcan

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I take it your female stheno? Because sadly in this world a woman wouldn't leave her children alone beside a man in case he stole them or worse.

What? Really?

bee06

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

But we were supervised at all times, and were never let out of our parents' sight.

My childhood was the exact opposite. We went to the pub every Sunday evening, met up with our cousins and spent most of the evening across the road in the gaa pitch by ourselves. Would never happen now in case we were all abducted. Maybe it was a country thing.

4zn76tysfajdxp

It's weird how some people give out about people not looking after their kids, while others wax lyrical about their idyllic childhoods where they were alone outside playing conkers until it got dark. Can't please everyone, I suppose.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Children have no business being in public houses. These are places where men use course language.

vicwatson

Worse still went back to my car recently and car next to me had 3 under 6's in the back strapped in. Some ****in people. Not a parent in sight.

Spanish Eyes

Candie wrote: »

I read your post, it's like many others I read on here. Grown adults so discombobulated by the presence of kids that they think it's acceptable to refer to them all in derogatory language, complaining that parents think the world revolves around their kids, while simultaneously complaining that it doesn't revolve around them.

The world revolves around kids to those that have them.

My world revolves around me being happy as best I can, and if that means being surrounded by adults only, So be it.

We can only make ourselves happy, not everyone else too!

Kids in restaurants and pubs are generally not conducive to a good day out for adults who do not have kids.

That is why those establishments that ban kids after 6 oc or so are so full then.... with adults!

Spanish Eyes

ziggyman17 wrote: »

Children should not be in places that serve alcohol..

Absolutely.... the only reason kids are there in the first place is to satisfy the parents' need to drink!

Stheno

One eyed Jack wrote: »

OP you're an intelligent adult, and you had the common sense to call that woman out on abandoning her children while she went off to the other end of the bar.

What I can't get my head around is why, instead of having a word with management, or calling the Gardai and having the woman and her children removed from the premises, you thought it better to start a thread in AH about it?

I'm not up on any moral high horse here, but may I ask do you actually give a damn about those children's welfare, or were you only thinking of yourself in starting what you knew would be a contentious thread about it?

You're hardly in any position to be judging anyone when you had the opportunity to do something about it, and you start a thread more concerned about whether it's normal or not. You know well it's not normal.

Actually before I started the thread I spoke to the woman who was looking after the children, asked if she was their parent, and told her I was not happy that she was leaving them unsupervised as I was uncomfortable with it and they were yelling for their parents constantly

She then said she would stay with them, and did while sorting out an issue with a lack of cots in the room and finally left about eight thirty

Had she just left them I'd have escalated to the bar manager

I actually started the thread to check I wasn't bonkers and that what she was planning was weitd

Aongus Von Bismarck

Anya Substantial Zen wrote: »

It's weird how some people give out about people not looking after their kids, while others wax lyrical about their idyllic childhoods where they were alone outside playing conkers until it got dark. Can't please everyone, I suppose.

Absolutely no comparison between the two. Children being outside playing sports is a very different thing than having them sitting inside in a pub, bored rotten, as their alcoholic parents hoover back cider, devour a carvery lunch, and tell stupid jokes that only they and their equally thick and ignorant friends find funny.

Spanish Eyes

vicwatson wrote: »

Worse still went back to my car recently and car next to me had 3 under 6's in the back strapped in. Some ****in people. Not a parent in sight.

LOL!

Vandango

Anya Substantial Zen wrote: »

The Backwards Man wrote: »

When I was a wain I got into the pub twice a year, when the turf were all home and the spuds were all gathered. For half an hour. One game of pool and one Football Special in a long glass. That was it.

Then back to the mines.

nearly choked when I read that.

One eyed Jack

Stheno wrote: »

Actually before I started the thread I spoke to the woman who was looking after the children, asked if she was their parent, and told her I was not happy that she was leaving them unsupervised as I was uncomfortable with it and they were yelling for their parents constantly

She then said she would stay with them, and did while sorting out an issue with a lack of cots in the room and finally left about eight thirty

Had she just left them I'd have escalated to the bar manager

I actually started the thread to check I wasn't bonkers and that what she was planning was weitd

Ahh, context. Cheers OP, because I was initially thinking this -

Tilly wrote: »

WTF?

when I read your opening post.

Yeah, what she was planning was weird alright, but fortunately it's not all that common. Happened to me a couple of times that parents plonked their children in front of me as if there had been an unspoken understanding between us that I would watch them while the parent wandered off doing something else (in the playground of all places once when I was there with my own child, another time in a hospital, another time a shopping centre, children left literally standing on their own with that lost look on their face).

I don't mind if someone asks, but it's the automatic assumption that has me think WTF??

SEPT 23 1989

I would not bring them into my local on the weekends as its too busy so we get a babysitter but midweek afternoons is fine they can sit down at another table doing their homework in peace not annoying anybody

[Deleted User]

I was in a hotel one Christmas Eve. I wasn't staying at home because I was a bit sad that Santa wouldn't be visiting that year. My whole family were there having a few sociables in the hotel lobby as the bar was jammed. Out walks this little blond curly haired beauty, rubbing her eyes and looking for her mommy and daddy. She had woken in the night alone (with her sister) in her hotel room. I minded her and one of my family went into the bar and asked everyone did they have a 3 yr old blonde child, they all said no. The hotel manager was called, the child was hysterical and sitting cuddling me on my lap sobbing her heart out. The manager went through the lists of each room to see who had a child. Meanwhile the poor little thing vomited all over me because she was so distressed.

A while later, this fat bastard walks by and the little kid goes "daddy". That absolute prick had left his two small children in a hotel bedroom on Christmas Eve while he sat in the bar with their mother getting drunk.

I'll never forget it, and he never once apologised or even acted like he cared.

Moral of the story; some parents are Cnuts.

blueser

MagicIRL wrote: »

Offer the kids some sweets. Mother will swiftly move children.

They'll **** off quicker if you wear a dodgy overcoat as you do it, too.

And ask them, in a loud voice, if they would like to go up to your room to see your puppies. Mummy will soon move her little angels (not brats; God forbid we call them brats) away. And you'll be able to spend the night in a nice warm cell down the local barracks!

Vandango

Anya Substantial Zen wrote: »

It's weird how some people give out about people not looking after their kids, while others wax lyrical about their idyllic childhoods where they were alone outside playing conkers until it got dark. Can't please everyone, I suppose.

Children running riot unsupervised in a pub or hotel, disturbing the peace and intruding on other people. Can't really be compared to some kids playing conkers, sitting on a wall or away off by themselves bothering nobody. The former is an inconsiderate parent with kunt kids, the latter is kids just doing kids stuff the way they once did years ago.

[Deleted User]

blueser wrote: »

And ask them, in a loud voice, if they would like to go up to your room to see your puppies. Mummy will soon move her little angels (not brats; God forbid we call them brats) away. And you'll be able to spend the night in a nice warm cell down the local barracks!

You should post in the passive-aggressive thread.

blueser

Candie wrote: »

You should post in the passive-aggressive thread.

That's bit heavy duty for me. Not to mention above my pay grade!