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The Vladimir Putin appreciation thread.

Jimmy Garlic

He has to be one of the greatest leaders the world has ever known, not just a stuffed suit like his wooden American counterpart. His steadfast resolve in the face of a proxy war being waged in Ukraine has to be admired, a war that would never have happened if billions weren't poured into Ukraine to kickstart a coup.

Like him or loathe him there is no doubt that Vladimir Putin is a very shrewd operator who is consistently one step ahead of the game.

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SpaceSasqwatch

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

It means that aside from occasional brief periods of sleep, Czar Shirtless is good for another 2 decades at least.

His absence was merely a scheduled service.

Is there any truth to the rumours that he was off getting his knob polished by Irish putinistas?

BoJack Horseman

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

Is there any truth to the rumours that he was off getting his knob polished by Irish putinistas?

Send a PM to 'Egginacup' for confirmation.

SpaceSasqwatch

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Send a PM to 'Egginacup' for confirmation.

Lol

He'd only deny it:P

Boom_Bap

MOD: No more personal attacks please

pcardin

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

New power cell installed.

Good to go.

more like new shot of bottox for face lift to make a midget with horse ears look like a hard man.

pcardin

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

Lol
He'd only deny it:P

or blame America as usual. :pac:

MRnotlob606

Putin has so much charisma about him.

SamHarris

Desolation Of Smug wrote: »

Erm, why would Russia threaten to Nuke Denmark?? Or did they just wake up with a hangover and decide it would be a good idea? I'd say that would pi55 the rest of Europe off a tad.

He is tossing around a bunch of insinuations about nuking various people for awhile. The reason being in economic and conventional military terms Russia is around the level of Italy in the former and Britain/France in the latter. They are a super power in the one and only sense that they have a lot of nukes, so that is the card used.

Why do I have a feeling that if a sitting US president constantly insinuated that nuking other countries would be an option should they sign treaties with a third power that the very people singing Putins praises now would be the most up in arms?

JONJO THE MISER

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3015996/How-Russia-s-troll-factory-runs-thousands-fake-Twitter-Facebook-accounts-flood-social-media-pro-Putin-propaganda.html

Army of professional trolls running fake accounts for Vladimir Putin
Workers are reportedly paid £500 a month for exhausting 12-hour shifts
Told they must bombard sites with more than 130 comments a day

Sure we have one of them on this forum.

gandalf

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Sure we have one of them on this forum.

Just one??!!! There a number more between here and the Politics forum

Egginacup

So...........

Now that the "invasion" by Russia of The Ukraine has been condemned (even though it can't even be proven) by those who insist that military aggression is a crime and should result in economic sanctions, can we expect the same call for the clear invasion/attack by Saudi Arabia on the sovereign nation of Yemen:

http://nation.com.pk/international/27-Mar-2015/39-civilians-killed-during-saudi-led-air-strikes-in-yemen

obplayer

Egginacup wrote: »

So...........

Now that the "invasion" by Russia of The Ukraine has been condemned (even though it can't even be proven) by those who insist that military aggression is a crime and should result in economic sanctions, can we expect the same call for the clear invasion/attack by Saudi Arabia on the sovereign nation of Yemen:

http://nation.com.pk/international/27-Mar-2015/39-civilians-killed-during-saudi-led-air-strikes-in-yemen

Why don't you open a thread about that?

Elmer Blooker

obplayer wrote: »

Why don't you open a thread about that?

Why should he open a new thread? The usual suspects around here like to go about "International Law" in Crimea but as usual look the other when it suits them.
While I'm on the subject of hypocrisy I see Uzbekistan had an "election" yesterday. This country is a one party state that uses torture but for some reason we never get to hear about it? ....... Oil? .... Gas?
No doubt an oversight by our fair, free and impartial western media!
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_110150.htm?selectedLocale=en

Gatling

Egginacup wrote: »

So...........

Now that the "invasion" by Russia of The Ukraine has been condemned (even though it can't even be proven) by those who insist that military aggression is a crime and should result in economic sanctions, can we expect the same call for the clear invasion/attack by Saudi Arabia on the sovereign nation of Yemen:

http://nation.com.pk/international/27-Mar-2015/39-civilians-killed-during-saudi-led-air-strikes-in-yemen

You mean the Iranian backed so called rebels who instigated an armed coup and who also happen to be al Qaeda yep terrible stuff indeed

ohnonotgmail

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Why should he open a new thread? The usual suspects around here like to go about "International Law" in Crimea but as usual look the other when it suits them.
While I'm on the subject of hypocrisy I see Uzbekistan had an "election" yesterday. This country is a one party state that uses torture but for some reason we never get to hear about it? ....... Oil? .... Gas?
No doubt an oversight by our fair, free and impartial western media!
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_110150.htm?selectedLocale=en

whats the name for this again? Oh yeah, deflection.

Elmer Blooker

Gatling wrote: »

You mean the Iranian backed so called rebels who instigated an armed coup.

So say the usual suspects. Another case of "we've been told"
Same old same old ........... The rebels are Shia so thats enough "evidence"

Reuters quoted an unnamed "senior Iranian official" in December 2014 as saying that the Iranian Quds Force had a "few hundred" military personnel in Yemen training Houthi fighters.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said in January 2015 it was unclear whether Iran was "exerting command and control" over the Houthis, although he described the U.S. government as "concerned" about the reported ties between them.[80] The following month, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Iran "contributed" to the Houthi takeover and the collapse of the Yemeni government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_Yemeni_coup_d'état#Allegations_of_outside_influence

Gatling

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

So say the usual suspects. Another case of "we've been told"
Same old same old ........... The rebels are Shia so thats enough "evidence"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_Yemeni_coup_d'état#Allegations_of_outside_influence

Shame how some people just can't handle facts

Firefox11

In a rather strange twist to Putin's propaganda war with the west, a bunch of pro putin bikers are heading to Berlin via poland.

Putin-backed bikers begin controversial ride to Berlin.

An ultra-patriotic Russian bike club has begun a controversial ride to Berlin, even though Poland says it will not allow them to cross the country.
The Night Wolves want to retrace the route of the Red Army in World War Two, and visit memorials to the Soviet troops who died fighting the Nazis.
But Poland's prime minister called the trip a provocation.
The bikers are renowned for their staunch support of President Putin, particularly his policies in Ukraine.
The US has put the club on its sanctions list.

More to the story here:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32470726

amandstu

The new Russian regime is squandering what bank of goodwill remains by this sort of stuff.

The USSR were perhaps the main players in the defeat of Nazism but this sort of a stunt leaves a very bad taste in the mouth and the iconology is closer to Hitler's stormtroopers than anyone could be comfortable with.

The last war is over now for 70 years and we have to move on -not be needling old adversaries (a march on Berlin I ask you-"we don't have guns" ,they "argue").

If the US or any of the other allied powers showed this level of disrespect there might be consequences in relations between them and Germany.

Officially Germany is "grateful" for the invasion (officially and genuinely I have no doubt) but it shows disrespect and a lack of class to keep up this sort of oneupmanship.

InTheTrees

amandstu wrote: »

The new Russian regime is squandering what bank of goodwill remains by this sort of stuff.

Its creepy. Putin controls politics and the media and the people are being whipped up into a nationalistic patriotic fervour.

To them strutting through poland waving russian flags seems perfectly natural because they're being told at home that the entire world is bowing down in front of russian strength and awesomeness.

I'm sure they're being told its just some corrupt western paid polish politicians who dont want them in poland and that really the people will welcome them with open arms.

jimmyRotator

His first computer program was kill -9

Egginacup

amandstu wrote: »

The new Russian regime is squandering what bank of goodwill remains by this sort of stuff.

The USSR were perhaps the main players in the defeat of Nazism but this sort of a stunt leaves a very bad taste in the mouth and the iconology is closer to Hitler's stormtroopers than anyone could be comfortable with.

The last war is over now for 70 years and we have to move on -not be needling old adversaries (a march on Berlin I ask you-"we don't have guns" ,they "argue").

If the US or any of the other allied powers showed this level of disrespect there might be consequences in relations between them and Germany.

Officially Germany is "grateful" for the invasion (officially and genuinely I have no doubt) but it shows disrespect and a lack of class to keep up this sort of oneupmanship.

How on earth is their iconology in anyway comparable to Hitler's stormtroopers? They are a bunch of biker with flags and emblems. I don't see any insignia that would label them as genocidal maniacs (can't say the same for the mob who are in charge in Kiev with their swastika armbands and SS caps stomping around the place killing "unpure" civvies).

So one bloke has a flag with Stalin on it. So what? Wasn't Stalin an ally of the West in the war against Hitler's stormtroopers? Your twist on things is worthy of Lewis Carrol's writings.

Egginacup

InTheTrees wrote: »

Its creepy. Putin controls politics and the media and the people are being whipped up into a nationalistic patriotic fervour.

To them strutting through poland waving russian flags seems perfectly natural because they're being told at home that the entire world is bowing down in front of russian strength and awesomeness.

I'm sure they're being told its just some corrupt western paid polish politicians who dont want them in poland and that really the people will welcome them with open arms.

Kinda like the "cake-walk" invasion of Iraq then? :pac:

PopePalpatine

Egginacup wrote: »

How on earth is their iconology in anyway comparable to Hitler's stormtroopers? They are a bunch of biker with flags and emblems. I don't see any insignia that would label them as genocidal maniacs (can't say the same for the mob who are in charge in Kiev with their swastika armbands and SS caps stomping around the place killing "unpure" civvies).

So one bloke has a flag with Stalin on it. So what? Wasn't Stalin an ally of the West in the war against Hitler's stormtroopers? Your twist on things is worthy of Lewis Carrol's writings.

How many times does this need to be repeated: THE NEO-NAZIS ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT.

ohnonotgmail

Egginacup wrote: »

How on earth is their iconology in anyway comparable to Hitler's stormtroopers? They are a bunch of biker with flags and emblems. I don't see any insignia that would label them as genocidal maniacs (can't say the same for the mob who are in charge in Kiev with their swastika armbands and SS caps stomping around the place killing "unpure" civvies).

So one bloke has a flag with Stalin on it. So what? Wasn't Stalin an ally of the West in the war against Hitler's stormtroopers? Your twist on things is worthy of Lewis Carrol's writings.

You do realise that Russia took the opportunity of germany invading Poland to launch their own invasion, right? Not to mention the decades of communist rule. So i think its understandable that they dont want pro-russian patriots crossing their border again. It didnt work out so well for them the last time.

Egginacup

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You do realise that Russia took the opportunity of germany invading Poland to launch their own invasion, right? Not to mention the decades of communist rule. So i think its understandable that they dont want pro-russian patriots crossing their border again. It didnt work out so well for them the last time.

Then you can most definitely sympathise with Russians not wanting a Nazi government next door in Ukraine, by the same token, no?

ohnonotgmail

Egginacup wrote: »

Then you can most definitely sympathise with Russians not wanting a Nazi government next door in Ukraine, by the same token, no?

that has absolutely nothing to do with what i said. But thanks for trying to deflect. a poor effort to be fair.

ohnonotgmail

Egginacup wrote: »

Then you can most definitely sympathise with Russians not wanting a Nazi government next door in Ukraine, by the same token, no?

ah feck it, i'll bite. In what way is the ukranian government a nazi government? Do you think that a government can only be either nazi or communist? is there no middle ground in your world? or are they nazi because they want to join NATO who, as we all know, want to invade russia and crush the communists? You've drank to much of the Putin kool aid my friend.

Gatling

From the horses mouth no coup ,no neo nazi's.
Except Putin far right biker gang planning to ride across Europe .

A totally different tone from Putin

* Moscow used to complain that former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was the innocent victim of neo-Nazi mobs in Kiev. On Thursday Mr. Putin explained his ouster differently. Ukrainians had grown “sick and tired of poverty, stealing and the impudence of the authorities, their relentless greed and corruption.” This sort of misrule always generates populist anger. It happened in Russia in the 1990s—and now, Mr. Putin said, it has happened in Ukraine.

Looks like the bots didn't get the memo

Egginacup

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You do realise that Russia took the opportunity of germany invading Poland to launch their own invasion, right? Not to mention the decades of communist rule. So i think its understandable that they dont want pro-russian patriots crossing their border again. It didnt work out so well for them the last time.

And Russia didn't actually "take the opportunity of germany invading Poland to launch their own invasion" although it is convenient to paint it simplistically so. The process of appeasement of Hitler forced the Soviets to sign a non-aggression pact with the Nazis which carried a secret clause for the carving up of Poland. Naked German expansionism and aggression towards Russia from Bismark, to Kaiser Wilhelm II to Hitler was hardly going to ingratiate the Soviets to trusting them [The Nazis] in their benign quest for a Greater Germany and stopping at White Russia and the Baltics once their goal had been achieved.