Preusse wrote: » Has anyone heard about ISIB before? I am just curious as I saw this piece on the sentencing of a teen who planned a copy-cat attack of the Lee Rigby beheading in London:http://news.sky.com/story/1449106/teen-gets-22-years-for-plot-to-behead-soldier The first page of his letter mentions ISIB, or Islamic State of Ireland and Britain.
Nomis21 wrote: » ISLAMIC state killing people in a mosque? Is that really Islamic? I'm confused here.
Streetwalker wrote: » ISIS are a ragtag grouping of losers, saying it for months now they have been in free fall all across Iraq and are getting desperate with their videos. Any half decent military unit tears them to pieces in battle. They'll be yesterdays news in no time.
imperator567 wrote: » But how do you stop the ideology from spreading ? Its expanding everywhere from Africa to the far East to muslim populations in Europe. They are becoming a mainstream Muslim ideological/political group for younger Muslims. I dont think you can contain it. Especially with Muslim demographics in Europe.
K.Flyer wrote: » I don't think Ireland is going to have to wait too long, maybe this year, for some sort of an incident to occur that brings this hatred onto Irish soil, be it Muslim v. Muslim or radical Islamist v. Ireland. The problem is, as I see it, is that our judicial system and political hand wringers are not and will not be capable of dealing with it in an adequate manner to deter any type of trouble of this sort happening.
Nodin wrote: » O you're right. We've no experience with any form of subversion here at all.
conorhal wrote: » A fact that makes it all the more worrying that, having dealt with it, we seem to have an inexplicable need to go out and import some more.
SpaceSasqwatch wrote: » Fear mongering..nothing more.:rolleyes: As of nov 2014 the EU anti terrorism chief estimated there were approx 3000 europeans figthing for IS.From a population of 505 million people. Even if you used just the muslim population in europe its still 3000 from a population of 19 million(2010)
Nodin wrote: » Yes, we should adopt some form of sectarian border control along with your mccarthyite regime. Sure what could go wrong?
imperator567 wrote: » Scare mongering ? . ...................
imperator567 wrote: » What should we do then ? Nothing ?
conorhal wrote: » The real question you don't want to face is in fact, what could go right?
kflyer wrote: Look I know what your saying, but I am primarily referring to our judicial system that's already stretched to it's limits and seems to hand out low grade sentancing for high grade crimes. Taking the arrest and 22 years imprisonment of the 19 year old in the U.K. as an example, here he most likely would have got 6 months at most.
Nodin wrote: » Theres enough nonsense in this thread as it is without bringing in tabloid hysteria about sentencing.
K.Flyer wrote: » I made no reference to any tabloid publications.
reprise wrote: » Blame the joos.
Nodin wrote: » In the circumstances I outlined, nothing. Theres enough nonsense in this thread as it is without bringing in tabloid hysteria about sentencing.
conorhal wrote: » If by nothing you mean the total absence of islamist terrorism on this island, then you're absolutely correct, the problem for opponents of my view is trying to fined a weasely way of avoiding saying, 'yeah, in my dogmatic insistence on open boarders I'm perfectly willing to sacrifice other peoples lives for my principles'..
conorhal wrote: » I suggest you head over to 4OD and watch Channel 4's very interesting documentary by Trevor Phillips, Things We Won't Say About Race That are True. When even Tony Blair's Comissioner for Racial Equality is prepared to say that at the end of the day multiculturalism is a failure you know a cold war with the Islamic world is the only realistic option.
Nodin wrote: » You stated that the lad sentenced to 22 years over there would get 6 months here. That's tabloidesque nonsense I'm afraid.
K.Flyer wrote: » ... here he most likely would have got 6 months at most.