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help needed to finish setup of SPC 6330

max2013

Hi

installed the SPC 6330 panel with below setup:

1x keypad
7x optex pir
1x 360 pir
6x panic buttons
2x sound blasters 127
2x texecom 118db bell boxes
1x 1313 Plus Advanced 12V Spike Suppressor
1x 1166 Earth Line Choke

I need some advice on how to program the OP4 and OP5 to trigger 2 sound blasters 127.
only to come on when the bell boxes or alarm is activated. also OP5 to be setup to give a pulse output for a second if the alarm fails to arm. as the manual does not explain how to
do it.

also will need a external power to trigger them as I am getting aux.current reached
problems as it many be due to powering the 2 bell boxes from the panel.
currently the aux current draw is 450ma on standby. or do you think it is better if I
rewire the bell boxes to external supply and use the internal supply to power the trigger
relays on the sound blasters. let me know what is the best option you think.

also is the current firmware on the panel still v3.4.5 and same version for SPC Pro

Thanks for looking and for your help in advance.

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max2013

Just one thing do the PANIC BUTTONS still work as normal in both area modes and unset state.

max2013

thanks for the help and thing I know now how to do it both ways now.
will set it up and test it later on when one is at home.

KoolKid

It's not something I've ever been asked to do with an alarm.
It could be done by splitting the system into areas.
Say area 1 is perimeter zones and area 2 is internal sensors that are off at night.
Full set would be both areas. The keypad upstairs could be restricted to area 2.
Or you could use separate codes. Code 1 only has rights to full set. Code 2 can only part set etc.
Part set for zones is set up in zone menu.

max2013

KoolKid wrote: »

Have you set up output 6 as a mapping gate.
That way you can set up triggers for part set or full set to trigger the same outputs.
Do you want to totally restrict the respective keypads from having the ability to full set or part set?
If so why?

I wanted to restrict them because other family member don't pay attention when setting the alarm and press any buttons and then complain the alarm is not setting. this way they got only one choose FULLSET or PARTSET depending on the keypad them are on.

Also were can I edit the Zones that are included for PARTSET.

Thanks

KoolKid

Have you set up output 6 as a mapping gate.
That way you can set up triggers for part set or full set to trigger the same outputs.
Do you want to totally restrict the respective keypads from having the ability to full set or part set?
If so why?

max2013

Hi
Been trying to work out how to setup 2 keypads to do different things. need help as I cant see the setting for partset.

I want the downstairs keypad to do FULLSET ONLY and activate output 6 when alarm is set only, if the alarm goes off to activate output 2 and 4 with no delay with EXIT/ENTERY DELAY.

I want the upstairs keypad to do PARTSET ONLY with selected Zones and activate output 6 when alarm is set only, if the alarm goes off to activate output 2 with no delay and output and 4 with 20seconds delay and with no EXIT/ENTERY DELAY.

Let me know best way to do this.
Also thanks for all the help for the other problems I had and the information given.

Thanks

altor

max2013 wrote: »

With abit more work and tinkering. it started to work on port 80 and resolution 1280x720.
If I increase the resolution then its hit and miss of working.

But it still would not pick up the substream and tried a few different commands and they all don't work. many be the panel does not recognise the substream extensions. many be a function Siemens could add to a firmware update.

Hopefully this will eventually come.
For long enough they told us only there own brand cameras will work.

max2013

Gabico wrote: »

Can you try in incognito mode if you use chrome or clear your cookies in case you set in the password earlier. I had this issue when I upgraded the fw in my cameras.If it is asking for username/pass it won't work.

This is the setup for one of my cameras. My resolution is 1280x720.

With abit more work and tinkering. it started to work on port 80 and resolution 1280x720.
If I increase the resolution then its hit and miss of working.

But it still would not pick up the substream and tried a few different commands and they all don't work. many be the panel does not recognise the substream extensions. many be a function Siemens could add to a firmware update.

altor

max2013 wrote: »

I would have loved to use the SPC Connect, but the phone line come from pole to pole and connects to the side of the house low down and there is a flat roof which can be easy to get onto. that the only reason for having one.

In situations like that the line is vulnerable.
I would use the GSM in conjunction with the line if plausible.

KoolKid

All comms paths are vulnerable in one way or another. If you were to think like that for everything you would use none of them.
My advice would be use what you have and make the most of it. Back up if you can.

max2013

KoolKid wrote: »

Using a generic GSM will be a bit messy and give you a lot less information. I have found the cost of Siemens GSMs have dropped since the SPC Connect service has been released. You can now have remote access and alerts for free so less people are bothering with a separate digi.

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I would have loved to use the SPC Connect, but the phone line come from pole to pole and connects to the side of the house low down and there is a flat roof which can be easy to get onto. that the only reason for having one.

KoolKid

Using a generic GSM will be a bit messy and give you a lot less information. I have found the cost of Siemens GSMs have dropped since the SPC Connect service has been released. You can now have remote access and alerts for free so less people are bothering with a separate digi.

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altor

max2013 wrote: »

I meant a different brand of GSM stand alone Dialler as the price of the Siemens one has been going up over the years and low out of my price range.

it has 4 inputs and 4 outputs, it also does voice and sms.
I was wondering on the alarm zones on the expender, can I set them up to activate and deactivate the fullset on the alarm. the zone them self's don't have the option and do I need to use the trigger and cause & effect menus to do it. as I not done this before and don't know were to start.

using the outputs of the panel to the inputs of the dialler is easy as you just need to map them to the correct settings.

The GSM may be more expensive but it will give you more functionality plus more information re zone activations.
Using a genetic GSM you can set up a zone as a keyarm to set and unset remotely.

max2013

altor wrote: »

A GSM can be added to your system.
This way you can simply use text commands to control the system.

I meant a different brand of GSM stand alone Dialler as the price of the Siemens one has been going up over the years and low out of my price range.

it has 4 inputs and 4 outputs, it also does voice and sms.
I was wondering on the alarm zones on the expender, can I set them up to activate and deactivate the fullset on the alarm. the zone them self's don't have the option and do I need to use the trigger and cause & effect menus to do it. as I not done this before and don't know were to start.

using the outputs of the panel to the inputs of the dialler is easy as you just need to map them to the correct settings.

altor

max2013 wrote: »

Have still been trying and its started to work and I can view a snapshot in the same screen as shown by Gabico and settings. but still want display via the web login or any other tabs of the SPC software.
in the cameras menus it say offline -[TCP Abort], many be a error in the software?

also can I use a external GSM dialler interfaced to the zone inputs on the panel to switch the alarm on and off via text?

A GSM can be added to your system.
This way you can simply use text commands to control the system.

max2013

Gabico wrote: »

Can you try in incognito mode if you use chrome or clear your cookies in case you set in the password earlier. I had this issue when I upgraded the fw in my cameras.If it is asking for username/pass it won't work.

This is the setup for one of my cameras. My resolution is 1280x720.

Have still been trying and its started to work and I can view a snapshot in the same screen as shown by Gabico and settings. but still want display via the web login or any other tabs of the SPC software.
in the cameras menus it say offline -[TCP Abort], many be a error in the software?

also can I use a external GSM dialler interfaced to the zone inputs on the panel to switch the alarm on and off via text?

max2013

that's what I was thing and abit of a shame. many be in the future with firmware updates it may work.
will keep the notes of the process and try when there is a new update.

altor

max2013 wrote: »

if I add the ip address in front of it and it works in browser.
but does not work in the panel and also tried different combinations of it, still no luck.
also tried lowering the resolution and its made no difference.

It could also just be the camera.
Not every camera is supported.

max2013

Gabico wrote: »

Can you try in incognito mode if you use chrome or clear your cookies in case you set in the password earlier. I had this issue when I upgraded the fw in my cameras.If it is asking for username/pass it won't work.

This is the setup for one of my cameras. My resolution is 1280x720.

if I add the ip address in front of it and it works in browser.
but does not work in the panel and also tried different combinations of it, still no luck.
also tried lowering the resolution and its made no difference.

max2013

thanks and will try it in the morning.

Gabico

max2013 wrote: »

Hi

Still having the problems. when I use the above command it does not ask for username or password and just displays a picture direct from the camera.
resolution is 1920x1080 it must be the mainstream, as I cant get the substreams to display.
the formant is JPG File.

Thanks

Can you try in incognito mode if you use chrome or clear your cookies in case you set in the password earlier. I had this issue when I upgraded the fw in my cameras.If it is asking for username/pass it won't work.

This is the setup for one of my cameras. My resolution is 1280x720.

KoolKid

max2013 wrote: »

the command strings I found in the manual are below and cant get them t work in the browser.

rtsp
username:password at ip:port/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0

ip:port/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0

I dont think they will work.
The format for Siemens must end with the user name & PW

max2013

altor wrote: »

Is there a string command in the manual off the camera?

the command strings I found in the manual are below and cant get them t work in the browser.

rtsp
username:password at ip:port/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0

ip:port/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0

KoolKid

max2013 wrote: »

Hi

Still having the problems. when I use the above command it does not ask for username or password and just displays a picture direct from the camera.
resolution is 1920x1080 it must be the mainstream, as I cant get the substreams to display.
the formant is JPG File.

Thanks

If there is a user name & password set up on the camera the command string must send this every time.

altor

max2013 wrote: »

Hi

Still having the problems. when I use the above command it does not ask for username or password and just displays a picture direct from the camera.
resolution is 1920x1080 it must be the mainstream, as I cant get the substreams to display.
the formant is JPG File.

Thanks

Is there a string command in the manual off the camera?

max2013

Gabico wrote: »

Is the above command working ok in the browser? Does it ask for user name and password?
What image are you getting back (format and resolution)?
I has some issues with my cameras at the start but now they are working fine now.

Hi

Still having the problems. when I use the above command it does not ask for username or password and just displays a picture direct from the camera.
resolution is 1920x1080 it must be the mainstream, as I cant get the substreams to display.
the formant is JPG File.

Thanks

Gabico

max2013 wrote: »

192.168.0.102/cgi-bin/snapshot.cgi

Is the above command working ok in the browser? Does it ask for user name and password?
What image are you getting back (format and resolution)?
I has some issues with my cameras at the start but now they are working fine now.

altor

max2013 wrote: »

a few of them I tried directly in the web browser that worked but still doesn't work in the panel.
also I have web setup, config software (which finds the ip address etc.) and PSS software.

192.168.0.102:9989/onvif/media_service/snapshot

192.168.0.102:9989/onvif/media_service/snapshot?channel=1&subtype=0

192.168.0.102/cgi-bin/snapshot.cgi

Here is a snap shot for what you should be seeing.
One is on line and the other is down powered.

Have you set up the ports?

max2013

a few of them I tried directly in the web browser that worked but still doesn't work in the panel.
also I have web setup, config software (which finds the ip address etc.) and PSS software.

192.168.0.102:9989/onvif/media_service/snapshot

192.168.0.102:9989/onvif/media_service/snapshot?channel=1&subtype=0

192.168.0.102/cgi-bin/snapshot.cgi

altor

The camera would have an IP address 192.168.1.whatever it is set at.
You also dont have the port set up.

Have you any software to set up the camera from the manufacturer?