People who hire hookers?

Saralee4 wrote: »

Well I'm not sure how I could explain that to you if you don't understand.

We all, men and women are human, we can all get hurt, physically and emotionally, make mistakes with one another, have needs and desires physically and emotionally etc. Of course there are differences between men and women but the fundamentals are the same.

The fundamentals are the same with monkeys, we eat, breathe, socialise, defecate, drink. Saying the fundamentals are the same doesn't really add much, what are the fundamentals?

Studies have shown repeatedly that there are significant differences between female and male brains on average.

Saralee4 wrote: »

Eh? No I said that maybe women and men possibly have the same sex drive but the ways in which they need the opposite sex (or same sex) to relieve that drive/need is probably different.

Did you read the post?

That experiment proves that men have a far greater sex drive than women. I understand women are horny too, many have all kinds of dirty fantasies and it's quite possible sex feels better physically for women than it does for men, but the point is men have a far greater sense of need to actually engage in sex. You can argue semantics, but this is what I mean by sex drive and it's the most reasonable definition as "drive" denotes the impulse to actually go out and do something, rather than desire which could be more hypothetical.

How come earlier in the thread you didn't concede that women have a far easier time getting sex than men? Only now when I provide evidence that it's undeniable you do so. It's an obvious fact, but something women in general seem to be in serious denial about, and will go to great lengths to deny or excuse.

nokia69 wrote: »

but it very clear from any study that I can find that men have a higher sex drive than woman, I don't know why you or one eyed jack can't admit this, its not controversial in any way

and yeah its also true that men and women have different kinds of sex drive

Nope your not understanding what I'm saying, not that the drive is different but the means of getting relief to satisfy the drive is different. Not really that hard to understand what I am saying surely?

Saralee4 wrote: »

Nope your not understanding what I'm saying, not that the drive is different but the means of getting relief to satisfy the drive is different. Not really that hard to understand what I am saying surely?

yes I do understand what you are saying, and I can agree with you but still point out the men have a higher sex drive

if I'm wrong find me a link to a study that proves me wrong

lavdad wrote: »

That experiment proves that men have a far greater sex drive than women. I understand women are horny too, many have all kinds of dirty fantasies and it's quite possible sex feels better physically for women than it does for men, but the point is men have a far greater sense of need to actually engage in sex. You can argue semantics, but this is what I mean by sex drive and it's the most reasonable definition as "drive" denotes the impulse to actually go out and do something, rather than desire which could be more hypothetical.

How come earlier in the thread you didn't concede that women have a far easier time getting sex than men? Only now when I provide evidence that it's undeniable you do so. It's an obvious fact, but something women in general seem to be in serious denial about, and will go to great lengths to deny or excuse.

If you were to be approached by a woman in the street that asked you for sex and you believed that by having sex with this woman that you would not be able to ejaculate, and perhaps not feel much pleasure, would you have sex with her?

Would the fact that you believed or felt that you couldn't orgasm and possibly not enjoy the experience change your drive to have that experience with another woman who could fulfil that need?

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yumyum10 wrote: »

.......What's your views on people who hire them?

Many chaps who hire prostitutes aren't paying for the sex you know, they are paying her to feck off afterwards :pac:

Saralee4 wrote: »

Nope your not understanding what I'm saying, not that the drive is different but the means of getting relief to satisfy the drive is different. Not really that hard to understand what I am saying surely?

We can all agree both men and women are sexual creatures who possess the innate capacity to become aroused. However, wouldn't you say men possess a far greater need to actually go out and turn the desire spawned by this arousal into sexual experience with a partner i.e. they have a higher sex 'drive'? Isn't it obvious based on the fact men are paying hundreds to random women just to have sex with them for an hour (and women don't do similar) along with countless other examples such as the situation in clubs and on dating sites?

This debate really is silly. It's just interesting the lengths women will generally go to deny something so utterly obvious.

Augeo wrote: »

Many chaps who hire prostitutes aren't paying for the sex you know, they are paying her to feck off afterwards :pac:

Or as nokia69 mistook and thought we were saying yesterday, they actually get a thrill from physically handing the money to the hooker

Saralee4 wrote: »

Or as nokia69 mistook and thought we were saying yesterday, they actually get a thrill from physically handing the money to the hooker

one eyed jack clearly said that last night and I can get the quote again if you like

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Saralee4 wrote: »

Or as nokia69 mistook and thought we were saying yesterday, they actually get a thrill from physically handing the money to the hooker

Years back when the Ronaldo sees prostitutes thing was in the media I was a sales rep, I was having coffee at a customers site with my point of contact in the canteen.

It was break time and there was a fair few people there, at a table near us a young lady was asking the lads in her company why on Earth would Ronaldo see a prostitute, one of the lads replied something along the lines of.......... she'd be stunning, would wear what he wanted her to wear, take it off as required, take in in the gob, up the arse, lick his balls, rim him and bring a friend of hers along if he paid for that too......... made a compelling argument at the time, the young lady went to HR that morning I reckon :pac:

lavdad wrote: »

We can all agree both men and women are sexual creatures who possess the innate capacity to become aroused. However, wouldn't you say men possess a far greater need to actually go out and turn the desire spawned by this arousal into sexual experience with a partner i.e. they have a higher sex 'drive'? Isn't it obvious based on the fact men are paying hundreds to random women just to have sex with them for an hour (and women don't do similar) along with countless other examples such as the situation in clubs and on dating sites?

This debate really is silly. It's just interesting the lengths women will generally go to deny something so utterly obvious.

It is a lack of understanding in my opinion.

How men react and pursue a relief to their sex drive could be different to how a women will react and pursue a relief to her sex drive.

Just because a man reacts a certain way to his sex drive and a woman does not react in the same way does not proove that the drive in either is higher or lower.

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nokia69 wrote: »

one eyed jack clearly said that last night and I can get the quote again if you like

You are definitely mistaking what one eyed jack was saying. You took the paying of money literally.

Jack is talking about what the money signifies. Money when it comes to paying for prostitutes can l, depending on how the punter views it, represent a number of things. It could be power, control, shame etc.

I'm sorry but i explained that to you yesterday as did one eyed jack and the fact that you can't grasp that, really makes me question your age.

Saralee4 wrote: »

Just because a man reacts a certain way to his sex drive and a woman does not react in the same way does not proove that the drive in either is higher or lower.

and who claimed it was proof

but its a FACT that men have a higher sex drive that women, and every study has found the same

Saralee4 wrote: »

You are definitely mistaking what one eyed jack was saying. You took the paying of money literally.

Jack is talking about what the money signifies. Money when it comes to paying for prostitutes can l, depending on how the punter views it, represent a number of things. It could be power, control, shame etc.

I'm sorry but i explained that to you yesterday as did one eyed jack and the fact that you can't grasp that, really makes me question your age.

In fact, it's actually been suggested as the motivation for some people that paying for it is part of the attraction of the experience. I can't disagree with that, if that's what makes the experience better for them, but again, that's a whole other story .

thats what he said, its clear as day

it from page 37 or 38 if you want to read the whole post

nokia69 wrote: »

and who claimed it was proof

but its a FACT that men have a higher sex drive that women, and every study has found the same

You asked "who claimed it was proof" then in the next line said "it's a fact" because of a study?

I'm sorry but you are either joking with me or completely on another planet!

Roquentin

Saralee4 wrote: »

You are definitely mistaking what one eyed jack was saying. You took the paying of money literally.

Jack is talking about what the money signifies. Money when it comes to paying for prostitutes can l, depending on how the punter views it, represent a number of things. It could be power, control, shame etc.

I'm sorry but i explained that to you yesterday as did one eyed jack and the fact that you can't grasp that, really makes me question your age.

rubbish. the escort provides a service. the man pays her. it is simple sex, except that someone pays for it. there is no ulterior motive in the majority of transactions

Saralee4 wrote: »

If you were to be approached by a woman in the street that asked you for sex and you believed that by having sex with this woman that you would not be able to ejaculate, and perhaps not feel much pleasure, would you have sex with her?

Would the fact that you believed or felt that you couldn't orgasm and possibly not enjoy the experience change your drive to have that experience with another woman who could fulfil that need?

I would take pleasure from the experience. If I wouldn't it'd be because I was a male with not such a strong sex drive.

You're saying women's desire for their ideal sexual experience is as strong as male's? I do not agree, however I think the misunderstanding is that you're failing to take into account how human desire is largely geared towards that which is unattainable to them or difficult to get. Because the opportunity to have sex with a woman is rare for a man, if he can't get it for a long period of time, the desire grows stronger and stronger. Whereas for a woman, there is always the safety net that if she really wanted sex with a man she could have it. This is just a psychological argument, ignoring the important biological factors which dictate the difference is sexual desires between the genders. Any way you look at it, men are destined to suffer more as a result of their sexuality than women. Sex is something that advantages women and disadvantages men, that is just a part of the balance of nature, but this is an aspect of life that women so vehemently deny.

Saralee4 wrote: »

You asked "who claimed it was proof" then in the next line said "it's a fact" because of a study?

I'm sorry but you are either joking with me or completely on another planet!

it is a FACT that men have a higher sex drive than woman

all the nonsense you post on the question won't change that simple FACT

Roquentin wrote: »

rubbish. the escort provides a service. the man pays her. it is simple sex, except that someone pays for it. there is no ulterior motive in the majority of transactions

Maybe not for you personally.

Money very often symbolises something for people. Whether it's the man with the best car, the woman with diamond earrings . For alot of people it means success, it means power. It means a lot to them to be able to buy flash cars and expensive jewellery because it makes a statement to everyone else. It nurses a person's ego.

When you buy something, you own it. If you can't comprehend that some men are going to get a kick or thrill out of feeling that they own the hooker then I don't know how to explain that to you any further.

Saralee4 wrote: »

It is a lack of understanding in my opinion.

How men react and pursue a relief to their sex drive could be different to how a women will react and pursue a relief to her sex drive.

Just because a man reacts a certain way to his sex drive and a woman does not react in the same way does not proove that the drive in either is higher or lower.

You'll have to define what a sex drive is and what determines if one persons sex drive is higher than another so that a conclusion can be found.

Saralee4 wrote: »

Maybe not for you personally.

Money very often symbolises something for people. Whether it's the man with the best car, the woman with diamond earrings . For alot of people it means success, it means power. It means a lot to them to be able to buy flash cars and expensive jewellery because it makes a statement to everyone else

When you buy something, you own it. If you can't comprehend that some men are going to get a kick or thrill out of feeling that they own the hooker then I don't know how to explain that to you any further.

On what basis are you concluding that some men feel they own a hooker?

Do you think people feel they own a waiter or a plumber when they receive their services due to payment?

Saralee4 wrote: »

You are definitely mistaking what one eyed jack was saying. You took the paying of money literally.

Jack is talking about what the money signifies. Money when it comes to paying for prostitutes can l, depending on how the punter views it, represent a number of things. It could be power, control, shame etc.

I'm sorry but i explained that to you yesterday as did one eyed jack and the fact that you can't grasp that, really makes me question your age.

You really think that the fact that men possess an organ attached to their bodies which they have to pay 20x they amount they themselves earn in order to utilise it's natural function, signifies male power? It's absurd, just as it is feminist groups portraying that women being paid more than most top barristers, doctors etc. to lie down and spread their legs signifies female oppression. There's a huge amount of nonsense surrounding these issues coming from women who appear to have some kind of deep issues regarding gender.

Ogniochialli wrote: »

You'll have to define what a sex drive is and what determines if one persons sex drive is higher than another so that a conclusion can be found.

Yep exactly.

Saralee4 wrote: »

When you by something, you own it. If you can't comprehend that some men are going to get a kick or thrill out of feeling that they own the hooker then I don't know how to explain that to you any further.

this is just feminist claptrap

I have never heard of any man who thinks he owns the hooker, he pays for a service and thats it

this ownership nonsense exists only in the mind of feminists who clearly don't understand the real world

Saralee4 wrote: »

Yep exactly.

Can you do that?

Saralee4 wrote: »

Yep exactly.

Libido /lɨˈbiːdoʊ/, and colloquially sex drive, is a person's overall sexual drive or desire for sexual activity.

and yes its higher in men

nokia69 wrote: »

it is a FACT that men have a higher sex drive than woman

all the nonsense you post on the question won't change that simple FACT

Here you asked me " who claimed it was proof" and then in the next sentence claimed it was prooved by saying it was fact!

I'm not taking time to respond about you mixing up words again. It's not even debatable.

Roquentin

Saralee4 wrote: »

Maybe not for you personally.

Money very often symbolises something for people. Whether it's the man with the best car, the woman with diamond earrings . For alot of people it means success, it means power. It means a lot to them to be able to buy flash cars and expensive jewellery because it makes a statement to everyone else

When you buy something, you own it. If you can't comprehend that some men are going to get a kick or thrill out of feeling that they own the hooker then I don't know how to explain that to you any further.

you work. you provide a service. your company pays you. does that mean they own you? No.