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Who is closest to the truth?

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So a question for all of the CT fans out there - which one of these NWO researchers do you (subjectively) think is closest to hitting the nail on the head?

Alex Jones - the globalists/fascists did it, just don't mention the Jews/Zionism on his show
David Icke - the reptilians did it (:D)
Jordan Maxwell - the Jesuits did it, the channeled spirits told him so
Luke Rudkowski crowd - the Bilderbergers/Globalists did it
Henry Makow - the Illuminati did it through the "arms of the octopus" - Freemasons, communists, organised Jewry and satanists
Bro Nathaniel - Jews did it and Putin is a saint
Glenn Beck - the globalists/UN did it

Any other major personality I am missing?

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Reg'stoy

Selene Cuddly Semiconductor wrote: »

So a question for all of the CT fans out there - which one of these NWO researchers do you (subjectively) think is closest to hitting the nail on the head?

Alex Jones - the globalists/fascists did it, just don't mention the Jews/Zionism on his show
David Icke - the reptilians did it (:D)
Jordan Maxwell - the Jesuits did it, the channeled spirits told him so
Luke Rudkowski crowd - the Bilderbergers/Globalists did it
Henry Makow - the Illuminati did it through the "arms of the octopus" - Freemasons, communists, organised Jewry and satanists
Bro Nathaniel - Jews did it and Putin is a saint
Glenn Beck - the globalists/UN did it

Any other major personality I am missing?

Did what?

degrassinoel

been watching a lot of the alien abduction/roswell stuff lately

CT's because their all saying it's been covered up since 1948 etc..

Anyway,

Nick Pope used to be credible to me until i seen a recent lecture, where he had a groupie ask all the questions he wanted asked and was literally flirting with her all the way through.. He's just selling books and lecture hall seats as far as i reckon.

(Dr.) Steven Greer - Completely unbelievable to me in every way shape and form, he starts with generic information and twists the testimony of actual credible witnesses to his own ends, same guy offers excursions to the desert to "watch UFO's" which are acoording to most who've witnessed them, Falling stars. Awful..

Richard C Hoagland - Fun guy, interesting, entertaining, has the logic side of most of his lectures down pretty well, but proved to be inaccurate with almost everything, shame really because he had a good scientific background, he's another bookseller imo. (An interesting one though, former buddy of Arthur C. Clarke)

Richard Dolan - another interesting guy, started out as a sceptic, and still is in most cases, but focuses on the unexplainable and the obvious coverups rather than speculating, he points it out and asks you to draw your own conclusions, has some interesting theories of his own, but tends to keep them in his books. - Not just a bookseller, genuinely interesting dude.

Stanton Friedman - I love this guy, he takes no guff from anyone, dont want to know about other sightings or little green men, just the facts, raw and rare - he focuses mainly on the Roswell coverup, and the Betty and Barney Hill abduction - Extensive physics background, literally a nuclear physicist amongst many other things. Can be funny at times, but sticks to the facts mainly. Though the MJ12 stuff is a bit out there. He's probably the closest to the truth of any of the coverup theories regarding Roswell and the Hill's

Definitely the best to watch/read even if he can be a bit dramatic at times.

Ye mentioned Alex Jones above, i cant stand that guy lol

He's too shouty

Hoop66

Selene Cuddly Semiconductor wrote: »

So a question for all of the CT fans out there - which one of these NWO researchers do you (subjectively) think is closest to hitting the nail on the head?

Alex Jones - the globalists/fascists did it, just don't mention the Jews/Zionism on his show
David Icke - the reptilians did it (:D)
Jordan Maxwell - the Jesuits did it, the channeled spirits told him so
Luke Rudkowski crowd - the Bilderbergers/Globalists did it
Henry Makow - the Illuminati did it through the "arms of the octopus" - Freemasons, communists, organised Jewry and satanists
Bro Nathaniel - Jews did it and Putin is a saint
Glenn Beck - the globalists/UN did it

Any other major personality I am missing?

Alex Jones - selling stuff
David Icke - selling stuff
Jordan Maxwell - selling stuff
Luke Rudkowski crowd - selling stuff
Henry Makow - selling stuff
Bro Nathaniel - selling stuff
Glenn Beck - selling stuff

omnithanos

Selene Cuddly Semiconductor wrote: »

So a question for all of the CT fans out there - which one of these NWO researchers do you (subjectively) think is closest to hitting the nail on the head?

Alex Jones - the globalists/fascists did it, just don't mention the Jews/Zionism on his show
David Icke - the reptilians did it (:D)
Jordan Maxwell - the Jesuits did it, the channeled spirits told him so
Luke Rudkowski crowd - the Bilderbergers/Globalists did it
Henry Makow - the Illuminati did it through the "arms of the octopus" - Freemasons, communists, organised Jewry and satanists
Bro Nathaniel - Jews did it and Putin is a saint
Glenn Beck - the globalists/UN did it

Any other major personality I am missing?

Jesse "the body" Ventura

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omnithanos wrote: »

Jesse "the body" Ventura

He just goes around saying stuff is a "conspiracy", he does not really have theories as to who and why.

degrassinoel

Wrestler, muscle beach bodybuilder, former mayor, presenter, and conspiracy theorist.. and friend of Arnold Swarzennegger.. he's everything i wanted to be when i was young enough to watch WWF on saturday mornings after DJ Kat!

tbh though i think he's just a presenter atm, though there was something he muddled into a while back, and i cant remember what it was that turned out to be really close to the truth or infact, true.

Passenger

omnithanos wrote: »

Jesse "the body" Ventura

degrassinoel wrote: »

tbh though i think he's just a presenter atm, though there was something he muddled into a while back, and i cant remember what it was that turned out to be really close to the truth or infact, true.

He's published a number of well received New York Times Best Selling books on various subjects such as the much scrutinized JFK assassination, They Killed Our President and a number of others, namely 63 Documents the Government Doesn't Want You to Read. He also has an online show called Off The Grid.

On the surface he is easily dismissed based on his past successes and reputation aside he seems sincere in his intentions and backs it up with a decent amount of integrity. He's also non-partisan to any political party which is somewhat refreshing. Definitely give his online show a gander for starters as he's a lot more credible then the fear-mongering of some other so called "conspiracy theorists".

omnithanos

In a recent survey 80% of Americans polled said they would vote for him if he ran for US President.
He can't run for President however as Independents don't get the ballot in all 50 states.

I remember him in two films, Predator and The Running Man where he played crazy dudes quite convincingly.
He seems much calmer and more reasonable now and he looks a bit like that actor who played the titular role in the TV show the coach who was also the daddy in the original Poltergeist.

I would cite him along with our own President and our own minister for health as being an honest politician.
Can anyone think of any others?

DamagedTrax

omnithanos wrote: »

our own minister for health as being an honest politician.
Can anyone think of any others?

??? what?

our own health minister? a man who 6 years ago said gay men should never adopt.. then came out as gay? (which most of the gay community here knw about anyway proving it to be a PR stunt). he is anything but honest.

omnithanos

DamagedTrax wrote: »

??? what?

our own health minister? a man who 6 years ago said gay men should never adopt.. then came out as gay? (which most of the gay community here knw about anyway proving it to be a PR stunt). he is anything but honest.

Can't you be gay and religious and follow the church's teaching that only married people should have kiddies?

I'm very confused on what way to vote being a catholic who wants to respect the views and wishes of the irish gay community.

I think you're being a bit hard on him, he comes across as very reasonable and is one politician who always answers a question. And my wife thinks he's cute.

degrassinoel

Politics forum lads, not the CT's forum.

omnithanos

Apologies I forgot which forum I was in because the posts were quite amicable.

stuar

For me it's Anthony Sutton and Noam Chomsky.

DavidRamsay99

Selene Cuddly Semiconductor wrote: »

So a question for all of the CT fans out there - which one of these NWO researchers do you (subjectively) think is closest to hitting the nail on the head?

Alex Jones - the globalists/fascists did it, just don't mention the Jews/Zionism on his show
David Icke - the reptilians did it (:D)
Jordan Maxwell - the Jesuits did it, the channeled spirits told him so
Luke Rudkowski crowd - the Bilderbergers/Globalists did it
Henry Makow - the Illuminati did it through the "arms of the octopus" - Freemasons, communists, organised Jewry and satanists
Bro Nathaniel - Jews did it and Putin is a saint
Glenn Beck - the globalists/UN did it

Any other major personality I am missing?

Pope Francis - the Devil is doing it.

omnithanos

How many of these are genuine?

When David Icke refers to reptilian shapeshifters is he actually referring to his slimy self in that he along with Alex Jones and Russell Brand are actually controlled Illuminati opposition?

Simon2015

Selene Cuddly Semiconductor wrote: »

So a question for all of the CT fans out there - which one of these NWO researchers do you (subjectively) think is closest to hitting the nail on the head?

Alex Jones - the globalists/fascists did it, just don't mention the Jews/Zionism on his show
David Icke - the reptilians did it (:D)
Jordan Maxwell - the Jesuits did it, the channeled spirits told him so
Luke Rudkowski crowd - the Bilderbergers/Globalists did it
Henry Makow - the Illuminati did it through the "arms of the octopus" - Freemasons, communists, organised Jewry and satanists
Bro Nathaniel - Jews did it and Putin is a saint
Glenn Beck - the globalists/UN did it

Any other major personality I am missing?

You forgot Jim Corr.

Overheal

omnithanos wrote: »

Apologies I forgot which forum I was in because the posts were quite amicable.

Long may it be so.

evolving_doors

stuar wrote: »

For me it's Anthony Sutton and Noam Chomsky.

Id forgotten about Noam Chomsky, a while back I saw a documentary (manufacturing consent I think it was called). His gripe was with General Electric running the whole show. Where is he at on that nowadays or has he gone back to research language?

U5ername

For me, it's David Icke, though his message is not that the reptilians did it. It used to be.
Sure that's a part of it, but years of his own discovery have passed since then. Now the reptilian agenda is just a small part of his talks. It's all way more spiritual now.
The 'who am I? What are we? Why are we here?' subjects are more what he preaches these days.
He's dug through the conspiracies, the Illuminati & reptilian bloodlines and come down to the roots of it. Our very reality. Interesting stuff.
If you've a spare 9 hours, watch his latest Wembley Arena talks before you dismiss him.

Reg'stoy

U5ername wrote: »

For me, it's David Icke, though his message is not that the reptilians did it. It used to be.
Sure that's a part of it, but years of his own discovery have passed since then. Now the reptilian agenda is just a small part of his talks. It's all way more spiritual now.
The 'who am I? What are we? Why are we here?' subjects are more what he preaches these days.
He's dug through the conspiracies, the Illuminati & reptilian bloodlines and come down to the roots of it. Our very reality. Interesting stuff.
If you've a spare 9 hours, watch his latest Wembley Arena talks before you dismiss him.

When at first your product doesn't shift; change markets.

Much like jones, predictions (that don't come true) are soon forgotten and half truths are massaged to appeal to the bewildered.

Have you visited his forum? Again like jone's site, Jews and gays are behind all the ills of the world.

There is nothing spiritual about the man what so ever. He claims to embrace universal love but was incredibly silent on recent same sex marriage decisions. His followers claim that gay pedophilic politicians, regularly perform satanic rites with british royalty.

Truth of the matter is that certain sexual predators were allowed practice, not because of satanic cults but because they were either cash cows for people or their horrible crimes were just simply ignored by their peers. Jones and icke allow the real reasons for the cover ups to be lost in a quagmire of nonsense.

U5ername

Yes I've visited Icke's forum - Awful place.
Your opinions are yours to have, not mine to argue with and vice versa.
I'm simply stating my opinion in answer to the OP.

For me, his teachings on reality & consciousness make perfect sense of everything.
For many millions Catholicism has all the right answers. I'd not take that away from them. We're all here learning.