Egginacup wrote: » Are you soft in the head or something? What the hell are you talking about? Do you have a clue what you're on about? Nobody is disputing that there was and currently are Russian troops in CRIMEA. Russian troops have been there for years under a joint agreement with Kiev. Why are you bringing up Crimea? We're talking here about your bullshit claims that Russia have invaded East Ukraine. Stay on topic or else stay quiet.
Egginacup wrote: » None of this is evidence at all. None of it. A Wikipedia page that cites CNN? CNN were also the one who staged the toppling of the Saddam statue in Fardir Square. As for that Jane's Defence article....I don't see a single source for the claims made in that piece. And the images you posted.....what are they? Some aerial shots. If there was so much ironclad evidence of a Russian invasion and occupation then where is it? Why does evidence have to be faked? Why do some media release images and videoclips purporting to show Russian vehicles and these images later turn out to be laughable fakes? Why fake if the proof is there? And I asked earlier if Russia had invaded Ukraine then why would hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians seek refuge in the land of the aggressor? Did hundreds of thousands of Polish refugees stream into Germany in 1939 after the nazis invaded? Or did French civilians pile into the Rhineland in search of refuge in 1941?
Egginacup wrote: » Not only that but under the Open Skies agreement, NATO doesn't even have to use satellites. They are permitted to fly unarmed reconnaissance flights over Ukraine...even over Russia and at low level. With today's technology they would be able to gather up a treasure trove of high-resolution images. They would have been able to document the license plates, ID numbers and details that could help identify individual vehicles and other pieces of military hardware. Instead General Philip Breedlove attended a press conference in Paris in 2014 and handed a set of low-grade, grainy, satellite images to Associated Press and stated that this was proof of a 40,000 strong Russian force amassed along Ukraine's border. It later turned out that the laughable images were indeed from Digital Globe and that what they in fact showed was a joint Russian-Ukrainian exercise that had taken place 8 months earlier. These are the "proof" images that some of the suckers on this forum are submitting as evidence of a Russian invasion of East Ukraine. Now these kind of tricks can fool people like Gatling, Recordstraight, et al but I'd say you could probably take a crayon and draw a tank on a piece of paper with an arrow pointing to it reading "Rushinn tank" and another arrow pointing to the ground and reading "Yookrane" and they would jump up and down clapping their hands like chimps and screeching "Ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, proof! ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya!" :pac: What can you do!
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Credibility! Its you and your ilk who take this amateurish "evidence" seriously.http://aco.nato.int/new-satellite-imagery-exposes-russian-combat-troops-inside-ukraine.aspx Take note that NATO have to use a private company called Digital Globe rather than a spy satellite
RecordStraight wrote: » It must be so embarrassing for the pro-Putin shills to have the man admit that he managed to fool them while everyone else could see the truth.
circadian wrote: » I fail to see how someone questioning Putins policies somehow means they support US invasions etc by proxy.
BoJack Horseman wrote: » Its a combination of amusing and pitiful, your lack of understanding of what "hypocracy" actually means! You accuse me of supporting US invasions? I ask you to quote these posts.... However, you rail against same yet support Tzar Shirtless's invasions of Ukraine. Hypocrisy..... a simple word that has befuddled you. As I said, quote my support for US invasions please. (A feeble & futile effort of whataboutery though it is)..... Be a man & back yourself.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » you and bojack too conveniently omitted the International Law bit from my post? I've never heard of a million dead in Iraq described as "grasping at straws" - fair play to ya!
InTheTrees wrote: » Really grasping at straws now? So now we should appreciate Vlad because he's not responsible for all the murders this century just some of them? :P
Elmer Blooker wrote: » You don't seem to notice or even care that the hundreds of thousands of civilians maimed and killed this century was NOT done Putin or any other Russian leader.
BoJack Horseman wrote: » Quote my support for US invasions Elmer. Come on.... Put up or shut up.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Hypocrisy according to my Oxford dictionary is double standards.
InTheTrees wrote: » ha ha ha ha! Caught in a lie so start insulting the americans again huh?
Elmer Blooker wrote: » YOU of all people accusing me of hypocrisy! Look what your precious and sanctimonious yanks have done to "weaker" countries.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » YOU of all people accusing me of hypocrisy! Look what your precious and sanctimonious yanks have done to "weaker" countries. Where do I even start? The genocide of East Timor supported by the US, the disappeared in Chile and Argentina, now Libya. I could go on all day. Hypocrisy eh?
PopePalpatine wrote: » Putin has just awarded an "Order of Honour" medal to Ramzan Kadyrov, who hailed Nemtsov's murderer(s) as "patriots of Russia". Andrei Lugovoi (suspected of involvement in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko) also received a medal for "Services to the Fatherland".Telegraph article
Gatling wrote: » Game over the bs you polluted for the 12 months has left you with egg all over your face . Zero credibility . All we had to do was sit here watch the shill make fools of themselfs
Egginacup wrote: » You stated that there were 20,000 Russian troops in East Ukraine. I asked you if you could provide proof of this and you said you couldn't. You just shouted and shouted and when asked to back up your assertions you meekly said that you couldn't. Gatling, don't address me directly again please. Stick to making adolescent comments on the sidelines and playing circus clown to the crowd but don't engage me again. Thank you very much.
BoJack Horseman wrote: » Elmer's right. We should lay off global powers who admittedly plan the conquest of weaker neighbours!.... Christ on a bike. The stink of apologist hypocrisy around you is incredible!
Gatling wrote: » Looks like someone is all upset . wonder if Putin's public statement has thrown the shills . Who for best part of a year we're claiming ukraine was a cia conspiracy to defame Vladimir putin .
worded wrote: » He reclaimed oil and gas from greedy foreigners back into the state hands, where resources for every country should be. How he did it was more cunning than a fox, but he did it.
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