osarusan wrote: » Coedo Ruri.
I've always assumed craft beer was made with primarily natural ingredients and few if any chemicals, whereas mainstream beer tends to have chemicals in it to make brewing easier and cheaper, and to artificially improve the taste.
Sky King wrote: » Mainstream beer is brewed cheaper because of economies of scale - massive process automation. Interestingly this generally leads to a more consistent product.
Just a little Samba wrote: » And because they use cheaper ingredients and lots of adjunts like rice, HFCS, hop oils instead of whole hops, they brew high abv and liqour down the final product, the brew at higher tempratures to speed up fermentation and force carbonate to compensate for loss of gas, the filter the living jesus out of the final product to get "consistancy".
Kev_2012 wrote: » But what also grinds my gears is when pubs try to market Molson Canadian or Tiger as craft beer and also Blue moon calls itself a craft beer, depsite none of them adhering to the definition of the term "craft beer"
Eutow wrote: » And some nitwit in a suit that gets an erection from an Excel sheet will say Bud is the best. If it's impossible to fcuk up an ale then wouldn't that mean the ale should taste good. There are good and bad ales, good and bad lagers, and tasteless ales and tasteless lagers.
AnonoBoy wrote: » I think techinically in the US Blue Moon does qualify as a craft beer. They were one of the breweries who campaigned to have the quantity increased so they could still classify themselves as 'craft'. But I get what you mean and I agree. Just like music, there's only two types of beer - good beer and bad beer.
MadsL wrote: » I'll not be disingenious and suggest that it is isn't debatable and modern studies do seem to be debunking it, but don't you find it odd that your instant ramen has to list it but not the beer you drink with it. The FDA requires that foods containing added MSG list it in the ingredient panel on the packaging as monosodium glutamate, but not in beers?http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-03/science-suggests-msg-really-isnt-bad-your-health-after-all Did you read my post? I didn't say none of them experimented with rice, but they are using rice as specific brightness/dryness profile. Japanese and Asian beers widely use rice.Budweiser is a copy of centuries old Czech beer from Cesky Budjovice, and they add rice because it is cheap! That's why they are slagged for it.
dubscottie wrote: » I worked with Interbrew in the UK.. Home of all the Smirnoff and Bacardi.. I wont go near Grants vodka/whisky for that reason (all rice based BTW).. But prove that fish is in Guinness. Links to a blog don't count. If it is true then there is a major public health issue. (allergies etc)... And what sort of preservatives are the "craft" brewers using?? Cause the bottle I have is good for 2 years..
Egginacup wrote: » I'd say that if there was fish anything in Guinness they would be facing a massive lawsuit from vegetarians.
jetsonx wrote: » As we all know, there has been an explosion in the number of craft beers available on the market. But very few of these are actually nice. (nicer than Bud, Coors etc but that would not be too hard) Most are too watery, too hoppy or just lack any sort of decent flavor. There are of course exceptions. Five Lamps is a tasty brew as is Red Rebel but other ones which I've tasted have stood out for being totally unremarkable, forgettable or just insipid. The fact of the matter is most, not all, craft beers su@k. What do you think?
spongebob89 wrote: » Well otger than taste, iv busted the myth that craft beer gives less of a hangover when in reality it kills you alot worse than carlsberg etc
LDN_Irish wrote: » I was in Aldi this morning and I usually buy the rheinbacher pils but was looking at those you mentioned Links. Was gonna give them a try but it was before half 12 I'll grab them next time I'm in and report back.
billythefish99 wrote: » Uh, why? There has been Isinglass in Guinness since the mid 19th century.
Shenshen wrote: » They're not exactly secretive about it : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/14/guinness-fish-bladder_n_2878165.html It's been known for a long time, and most vegetarians I know are well aware of it. It's used in the filtering process, so as I understand it's not strictly speaking an ingredient, as it gets removed from the beer before it's being sold. There aren't in fact many beers around that don't use animal products in production - although the end product shouldn't contain any.
irish_goat wrote: » Blue Moon isn't a brewery, it's just another beer made by MolsonCoors.
Egginacup wrote: » Ah, ok. Actually I heard about this before but completely forgot about it. So it's not actually an ingredient is it or is it some kind of catalyst?
Shenshen wrote: » There aren't in fact many beers around that don't use animal products in production - although the end product shouldn't contain any.
AnonoBoy wrote: » Sorry. When I said 'they' I meant the brewery who makes the beer. I'm just going on what I was told on a beer tour of Brooklyn a while ago. They said the increase had been pushed for by Sam Adams and MolsoonCoors and it allowed beers like Blue Moon be classed as a craft beer. Of course I was quite drunk at the time so the details are hazy. I wonder is Blue Moon still a craft beer over there?
LDN_Irish wrote: » I got a few 12 packs of blue moon seasonal selection less than half price a year or 2 back. Have to say, I quite enjoyed them. Wouldn't have paid full price though.
LDN_Irish wrote: » Sorry, it was actually winter selection, not seasonal. So like some cinnamon and other spices in there. I don't think they were all wheat beers, is their standard one a wheat beer? Scarleh for me, didn't even know that. They had an IPA in there which I enjoyed. I had some ales in some rural English Midlands town a while back. Three Tuns was one that stood out, quite nice. No idea if that's "craft" or "macro" But I enjoyed it.
Just a little Samba wrote: » Besides Isinglass being used for fining (making the fermentation stop and the yeast drop to the bottom of the fermentation vessel) and Glycerol monostearate being used to give better head retention I can't think of many vegetarian unfriendly additives in beer and both of them are pretty rare in this day and age as there are cheaper and easier ways of making beers drop bright than Isinglass and better ways of getting head retention than Glycerol monostearate. There are more non-vegan additives like Lactose and Honey but sure vegans are all mental anyway.
Just a little Samba wrote: » MolsonCoors were never membrs of the Brewers Association. The limit isn't on specific beers, its on the total output of the brewery. Blue Moon was never a craft beer or brewed in small batches, it was a macro from it's inception.
LDN_Irish wrote: » Sorry, it was actually winter selection, not seasonal. So like some cinnamon and other spices in there.
Just a little Samba wrote: » Anything on cask is considered "Real Ale".
