Noo wrote: » We want to do a little travelling too before settling in Ireland, and that also has to be at the right time of year so that has to be factored in when leaving. Obviouy ideal to go straight into travelling as you dont have to worry about jobs etcs untik you get back. I'm hoping to have a least $60-70k coming back. Of course exchange rate will devour that but theres also super to get back too. I work in a very specific field so am very worried about work, im trying to be optimistic and hope that'll work in my favour but im not so sure.
markymark21 wrote: » Love this thread. This topic has been popping up loads between me and the OH. We both have good jobs over here and are applying for PR soon. I find the fact I'm away from my family very hard, even to a point where I feel selfish do being on the other side of the world. Which I know I shouldn't but I can't help it. I've got a younger brother as well so not seeing him is difficult. I reckon once we get PR we might give Ireland another bash.
kilo6 wrote: » Well after spending 5 months in Ireland it only confirms our decision to emigrate to America 20 years ago. A point running through this thread seems to be the loss of family by being away. Well modern internet service makes communication easy that is if you are lucky enough to have it in rural Ireland where it is a joke. I and my irish friends speak fondly of the one or two telephone calls from ireland from said loving family a year. When questioned about this they say oh sure the cost of it and sure you were the ones that left. The oppurtunities that my wife and kids have availed themselves would never in a million years be available here in ireland. Im back tending to things now for a little while and cannot wait to get back to my home in the USA. I did look into maybe trying to settle back here and my god the roadblocks put in front of you is amazing. Try getting an irish driving licence for one. Makes me laugh these gombeen politicans acting like beggars trundling around the US looking for companies to setup in Ireland. Then when you arrive here. Interne non existent or unusable. Roads in ****e. Taxes out of control. Dole ques out the door on a tuesday by people too lazy to emigrate and get a decent life but then why should they when all you need do is put out your hand and beg. A overbloated civil service whos main job is to protect their cushy existence. Goverment departments run amuck with rules and regulations. Unions who protect their members regardless of what cost to the common good. Then we have the weather here pure ****e again. Ive met accountants here whos first advice to new clients is if you can emigrate. So yes i love America and thank god that we made the decision to leave 20 years ago. As they say over there Ireland a nice place to visit but by god you wouldnt want to live there. Another thing that riles my whiskers is from now till StPatricks day we will have to listen to gombeen politicians who have destroyed Ireland and ruined a whole generation of young people running around America blowing about how good it is here all paid by the Irish tax payer the poor ould sod. I am in rare form here this morning as i look out at the pissing down rain. I must ckeck my return ticket. iI generally am a cheerful guy but i need to get out of here before my head expoldes.
Undertow wrote: » Me too! The very best of luck with the move Statina. We'll be interested to hear how you get on! It's amazing how so many people are seriously considering moving back home for good lately.
acb wrote: » As the title says...we moved home 4 weeks ago yday after being in Australia 2.5 years and while its great seeing everyone, I think Id rather have stayed. We were in Mornington , Melbourne and I loved it...husband didn't though. I had really settled , made great friends, knew the schools the kids would start next year etc Back now and finding it grime here. Go for a walk and you have to keep watching out for Dog crap everywhere..really annoys me. I have a poo brush for the pram- how gross is that! Grown men discard litter without a second thought. It make me question why am I telling my 3 yo to put his rubbish in his pocket until he finds a bin. What strikes me is everywhere looks like it needs money spent on it. I guess thats the recession. Maybe its the time of year or me projecting my feelings, but people seem like they're having a hard tough life. Since we got back its a struggle. I don't do anything- stuck inside with the kids. In Oz I was always out. I dint think twice about heading out with the 2 kids for a walk someplace. Probably should say what brought us back..well husband got 2 job offers in the same week, a job in Melbourne CBD and another one- a permanent job in Ireland so we came back. We left in the first place because of 'natural wastage', husband lost his job so we applied for skilled visa for Australia. Its so hard to know, Sorry I know my post is a long whingy ramble. Im just feeling unsettled...people don't understand unless they've gone through it themselves.
Middle Man wrote: » TV programmes that dictate how people should act, think and present themselves should be banned on the grounds of freedom of expression.
Middle Man wrote: However, there's this Asian country called Bhutan where there is a performance indicator known as 'Gross National Happiness' - I seriously doubt that our politicians would do too well there!
In 1989 the government elevated the status of the dress code from recommended to mandatory. Afterward, all citizens were required to observe the dress code in public during business hours. This decree was resented by Lhotshampas in the southern lowlands who voiced complaints about being forced to wear the clothing of the Ngalop people. 80,000 Bhutanese refugees now reside in refugee camps in Nepal.
catbear wrote: » <snip> However Middle Man where you would love Australia, especially Perth, is for its car culture where taking public transport can be viewed as some sort of punishment! It's hilarious to hear some Aussie talk about how dangerous taking the train is when really they're some of safest I've ever been on anywhere! <snip>
catbear wrote: » Isn't the act of banning perpetuating that? Given the freedom of choice the first thing people do is imitate each other.
6ix wrote: » I guess this thread resonates with anyone who's moved this far from home, but I think in particular there was a spike in Irish moving to Australia in 2009-2011. Those who stayed are at the 4/5/6 year mark and probably considering their options. I'm one of those, although not planning any move just yet. I'm eligible for citizenship later this year,so I'm definitely getting that and I'll consider my options after that. I know that my girlfriend and I de With regards to super, I never get that argument of 'losing' it if you're PR or a citizen. Yes, you can't access it straight away, but you'll need a pension for retirement anyway and you can just access it at your preservation age like everyone else in Australia. Good luck to those making decisions!
Undertow wrote: » That's an interesting point, and maybe you're right! I think people will always have the question hanging over them after a few years abroad though, and maybe just need confirmation that Ireland is no longer the country it once was, and you're better off in this part of the world! Deep down we probably suspect this, but to satisfy ourselves that we give things a go back there. How about England? Surely the economy is doing better there, much more of a buzz about the place, better career prospects and money, and still close enough to head home for an odd weekend here and there? I think its the distance away from home that bugs people the most about Oz & NZ. If we could get home a bit more often, there would be a lot more people willing to set up camp here for good I reckon!
seachto7 wrote: » @CB19135. I have been to Aus and NZ, and while there are many advantages, the distance, I think, could eventually cause problems. I'm only basing it on cousins of mine who have had to make the lonely trip home for funerals and the likes. I know one person in particular who moved over for work (or the dole queue here), but the distance often gets to them. It's all about what you make it as well. I know other people over there for work who give out about the Aussies every other day. I know other people there who have embraced the lifestyle, and won't be coming back. I even emailed someone recently I know in Perth, and based on their FB updates and photos, life looked to be progressing nicely for them. Kids, a new house etc, but when they emailed, they said they had no firm plans to settle there. They weren't totally 100% sold on it. I know, if I was there, I'd do my best to surround myself with like minded people most of the time. While I may well be able to go to the UK, Aus has crossed my mind too. But I tend to think ahead. it's all hypothetical, but I often think of things like "What if I met someone and got married in Australia?" Relations getting old etc. Those kind of things. I suppose you have to live life for yourself, and not for others eventually. It's interesting to read people's thoughts on this, as it's something I have thought about over and over. I suppose my loose plan was to look for jobs close to home, then start casting the net further afield. Aus has to be on that radar now. If I were 22, I'd go. Nothing to lose. I wouldn't be thinking of distance, family, deaths, relatives, at that age. I'd just want the craic. Maybe it gets harder as you get older? You don't tend to meet many Irish who have done long stints down under, who have come back to Ireland to settle. I don't anyway.
Undertow wrote: » Christ on a bike- $60-70K AFTER travelling?? Good on you. I'd be hoping to have between $20K & $30K put aside for job-hunting, but I'm a bit nervous about that figure as I know how quickly it can slip through your fingers. I'm also in the Construction industry and work is scarce in that field also! The last thing I want is to be heading back to Mammy's with my tail between my legs penniless after travelling the globe and job hunting to no avail after 6 months. My worst nightmare haha!
