Egginacup wrote: » Vindicate yourself by naming 10 crimes against humanity conducted by the UK and Russia/USSR in the last 30 years. Answers at your leisure, please.
Egginacup wrote: » The Novorrussians have shattered the Kiev Nazis who have been shelling kids since August and they are on the run. The Nazis in Kiev were installed by Washington and their massacres were approved by Washington, and that is undeniable. I'm really looking forward to the Novorussians being completely successful when Spingtime comes and Kiev being fcuked.
Irish Praetorian wrote: » Although part of me thinks the worst offence is people now thinkings that if they want to make criticisms of 'The West' they are somehow obligated to defend Russia (or just about any other tinpot dicatorship) to the hilt.
arayess wrote: » considering he grew up with his parents carrying around the burden of his dead brother . If it affected his parents (which it's logical to assume it did) it would have certainly have had an impact on putin. To say otherwise is stupid and insensitive
Thomas_. wrote: » During the 1980s in the GDR, there he was the "head of the KGB" but not "the head" of the KGB itself.
Thomas_. wrote: » Well, not the top one but as it happened in the then sattelite states of the Eastern Bloc, each country had it´s "KGB head" there.
Shurimgreat wrote: » Is Russia the only country in the world where leaders are considered great based on how people they have killed? In other words, the more people you kill the greater you are viewed. Stalin is positively lionised in Russia today and among the left elsewhere. What a man, the way he dealt with all those defenceless minority ethnic groups, and returning POWs and dissidents and so on. What a leader. Not like those human rights loving leaders in the west. The more destruction and anarchy Putin sows outside his country, the more he is admired by some.
Grayson wrote: » yep. as soon as you mention Russia doing something bad people start throwing out the gulf war, invasion of Iraq etc.. I marched against the invasion of Iraq. it's perfectly possible to think that the US have been major assholes on many occasions and at the same time hold the same opinion about Russia.
Shurimgreat wrote: » In the case of Putin and Russia its easy to be popular when you murder, exile or threaten opponents, shut down most of their means of expression and platforms, bring in laws that restrict everyone and basically scare everyone sh*tless. The Russian public are fed 24/7 pro Kremlin propaganda in which he is treated as a demi-god and all the negatives convienently ignored. Funny how when America invades a nation they are condemned. When Russia invades a nation they are hailed and admired usually by the same people.
Egginacup wrote: » Again can you tell us when and where Russia has invaded in order to be "hailed and admired" ?
B_Wayne wrote: » Russia is the 3rd most dangerous place to live. Much of the assassinations are political including the likes of Litvinenko with that case of pilonium poisoning. Honey traps against gay people operate freely in Russia. Scenes of gay people being beaten on streets during Sochi Olympics came out. Then you've got bans on so called gay propaganda, bans on transgender taxi drivers. Him implying that gay people are paedophiles. Political opponents are regularly jailed. Sounds like a lovely chap who wishes Russia to be a free and equal society.
Egginacup wrote: » Putin was a desk analyst in Dresden.
KGB career Putin joined the KGB in 1975 upon graduation, and underwent a year's training at the 401st KGB school in Okhta, Leningrad. He then went on to work briefly in the Second Chief Directorate (counter-intelligence) before he was transferred to the First Chief Directorate, where among his duties was the monitoring of foreigners and consular officials in Leningrad.[36][37] From 1985 to 1990, the KGB stationed Putin in Dresden, East Germany.[38] During that time, Putin was assigned to Directorate S, the illegal intelligence-gathering unit (the KGB's classification for agents who used falsified identities) where he was given cover as a translator and interpreter.[39] One of Putin's jobs was to coordinate efforts with the Stasi to track down and recruit foreigners in Dresden, usually those who were enrolled at the Dresden University of Technology, in the hopes of sending them undercover in the United States. During the Fall of the Berlin Wall, a mob threatened to storm the KGB building, Putin burned the KGB’s files and sent frantic requests for orders from his bosses in the capital. “Moscow is silent,” Putin later recalled in his official biography.[40] Following the collapse of the communist East German government, Putin was recalled to the Soviet Union and returned to Leningrad, where in June 1991 he assumed a position with the International Affairs section of Leningrad State University, reporting to Vice-Rector Yuriy Molchanov.[37] In his new position, Putin maintained surveillance on the student body and kept an eye out for recruits. It was during his stint at the university that Putin grew reacquainted with his former professor Anatoly Sobchak, then mayor of Leningrad.[41] Putin resigned from the active state security services with the rank of lieutenant colonel on 20 August 1991 (with some attempts to resign made earlier),[41] on the second day of the KGB-supported abortive putsch against Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev.[42] Putin later explained his decision: "As soon as the coup began, I immediately decided which side I was on", though he also noted that the choice was hard because he had spent the best part of his life with "the organs".[43] In 1999, he described communism as "a blind alley, far away from the mainstream of civilization."[44]
Egginacup wrote: » And what destruction and anarchy, pray tell, has Putin sown inside or outside of Russia? And Stalin is NOT lionised in Russia. You don't know what you're talking about.
Egginacup wrote: » Can you back up ANY of these wild claims?
Shurimgreat wrote: » FFS, as part of the Minsk agreement, the pro Russian fighters agreed to pull back an ultra modern multiple rocket launcher that only the Russian state produces and owns. That's just one example of the help and support. You couldn't bury your head in the sand any deeper if you tried.
BoJack Horseman wrote: » Saying "Nazi" over & over again does not an argument make.
pcardin wrote: » Invaded, occupied Crimea and east Ukraine recently. Hailed and admired by all low educated traktrorists and drunks otherwise known as computer warriors all over Russia and their infested countries. Even in this thread there are a number of them hopping that Kiev will be occupied and killed by spring. From past invasions? Here you go - last 2-3 decades - Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia Since after WWII - Baltics, Poland, Czech Republic, Moldova, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Croatia,Hungary, Bulgaria, Kirghizia, Armenia, and some more (and no need to tell BS that these joined themselves). Territories invaded and still not given back - Koenigsberg (Kaliningrad), Kuril Islands, Karelia. ALL the above mentioned invasions were glorified by Russians and followed by mass killings.
Egginacup wrote: » Did it ever occur to you that a lot of the equipment that the Novorossians have has actually been captured from Kiev forces?
Egginacup wrote: » And so what if Moscow is supplying arms to Novorossians in order to defend themselves from a campaign of genocide by Nazis. Anyone with a shred of decency would help them. And only a sinister thug or a clueless buffoon would side with Nazis from Kiev attempting to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine.
Egginacup wrote: » There are over 1 million refugees from eastern Ukraine now seeking shelter in Russia. Strange destination for refugees if Russia is the aggressor in all of this wouldn't you say?
pcardin wrote: » BS According to papa Putin they bought in local shop or eBay :rolleyes: Nazis, nazis, nazis, OMG, nazis everywhere... :pac::D Another BS fed to you by RT
Akrasia wrote: » This is such a bizzare thread
B_Wayne wrote: » Stalin praise thread on the way!
Egginacup wrote: » Did it ever occur to you that a lot of the equipment that the Novorossians have has actually been captured from Kiev forces? And so what if Moscow is supplying arms to Novorossians in order to defend themselves from a campaign of genocide by Nazis. Anyone with a shred of decency would help them. And only a sinister thug or a clueless buffoon would side with Nazis from Kiev attempting to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine. There are over 1 million refugees from eastern Ukraine now seeking shelter in Russia. Strange destination for refugees if Russia is the aggressor in all of this wouldn't you say?
Thomas_. wrote: » More ridiculous is the use of the Fascist card by the Putinesque brigade to depict those who got overrun by separatist paramilitias in the Ukrainians own country to serve the "appetite" of Putin for a land grab.
Thomas_. wrote: » Indeed. It´s bizzare to watch and notice how many of the old Communists survived the time, given that the USSR doesn´t exist anymore since 1991.
