ISIS are pure evil.

nokia69 wrote: »

take the conspiracy sh1te somewhere else

Are you on the ground over there? have you witnessed it yourself?.
Its not conspiracy where I'm coming from. Just look at where ISIS started. Who funded them originally?.

maggiepip

I dont believe everything I read but theres no conspiracy crap going on with ISIS.

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Da Fuq?

A false flag??? The evidence is overwhelming.

I have seen evidence of heads of fences, and bodies thrown into pits (sick B*stards),
Can you point to evidence for most of the beheadings of journalists?

take the conspiracy sh1te somewhere else

maggiepip

Steve012 wrote: »

Is there proof of this barbaric evil behavior? Not questioning there isn't or it didn't happen. My point being (yes there are poor souls being killed indeed)but some of this is false flag.
The poor Jordanian pilot. I saw the video it looked quite suspect to be honest. Standing still while being burnt doesn't make sense, then falling to his knee's.
The pain alone would have somebody hopping around the cage, panic and using your body weight against the bars.. etc.

Paris shootings, IMO false flag, (people were probably killed bless their souls)
If you really look into these things there are a lot of unanswered questions.

Who funded ISIS in the first place?
Sadam (brutal swine as he was) kept these factions at bay.

Are you saying that ISIS fabricated the video and then gave the pilot a nice peaceful death? And why would they do that? Out of kindness? I think not....

The_Valeyard

Steve012 wrote: »

Is there proof of this barbaric evil behavior? Not questioning there isn't or it didn't happen. My point being (yes there are poor souls being killed indeed)but some of this is false flag.
The poor Jordanian pilot. I saw the video it looked quite suspect to be honest. Standing still while being burnt doesn't make sense, then falling to his knee's.
The pain alone would have somebody hopping around the cage, panic and using your body weight against the bars.. etc.

Paris shootings, IMO false flag, (people were probably killed bless their souls)
If you really look into these things there are a lot of unanswered questions.

Who funded ISIS in the first place?
Sadam (brutal swine as he was) kept these factions at bay.

Da Fuq?

A false flag??? The evidence is overwhelming.

kstand

Why is anyone surprised what this paedophiles get up to? If they are happy to sell a toddler to another murderous paedo in the knowledge she will be raped then why are we surprised what they do to teenage boys and grown men?

fr336 wrote: »

If they did start killing Russians the response could be interesting to say the least.

Exactly!!, Where is this leading too?, How far is it going to go, and what consequences will it have on peoples freedoms. proxy wars..

Gatling wrote: »

After the mass beheading in Libya yesterday in Iraq another 45 people were burned to death in cages not far from a military base where 300 US marines are stationed

Is there proof of this barbaric evil behavior? Not questioning there isn't or it didn't happen. My point being (yes there are poor souls being killed indeed)but some of this is false flag.
The poor Jordanian pilot. I saw the video it looked quite suspect to be honest. Standing still while being burnt doesn't make sense, then falling to his knee's.
The pain alone would have somebody hopping around the cage, panic and using your body weight against the bars.. etc.

Paris shootings, IMO false flag, (people were probably killed bless their souls)
If you really look into these things there are a lot of unanswered questions.

Who funded ISIS in the first place?
Sadam (brutal swine as he was) kept these factions at bay.

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Even the Nazis weren't as barbaric as this in their means of execution. They really have taken evil to a new level. And there is no doubt they are the Nazis of our era. Unfortunately a lot of nations just don't want anything to do with this fight such as Germany, Italy, Russia, China, Japan and several more. It falls to a relatively small number of nations to confront them, while the rest just sit on the fence.

If they did start killing Russians the response could be interesting to say the least.

DeadHand

fr336 wrote: »

Aargh it angers me how these scumbags just get away with it day after day...so much precious life just gone...for NOTHING.

The Left here and elsewhere only get exercised over the loss of Arab life when it is being taken by white men.

Shurimgreat

Gatling wrote: »

After the mass beheading in Libya yesterday in Iraq another 45 people were burned to death in cages not far from a military base where 300 US marines are stationed

Even the Nazis weren't as barbaric as this in their means of execution. They really have taken evil to a new level. And there is no doubt they are the Nazis of our era. Unfortunately a lot of nations just don't want anything to do with this fight such as Germany, Italy, Russia, China, Japan and several more. It falls to a relatively small number of nations to confront them, while the rest just sit on the fence.

Gatling wrote: »

After the mass beheading in Libya yesterday in Iraq another 45 people were burned to death in cages not far from a military base where 300 US marines are stationed

Aargh it angers me how these scumbags just get away with it day after day...so much precious life just gone...for NOTHING.

Gatling

After the mass beheading in Libya yesterday in Iraq another 45 people were burned to death in cages not far from a military base where 300 US marines are stationed

Streetwalker wrote: »

Point out where I said all religions are the same? And what's trendy?

And our priests. Religion huh.

this post to me implies that you think ISIS is just another religion, and all religions are more or less the same anyway

this is a view held my many people on the left, its fashionable and easy to believe for people who don't like to think too hard about things

kstand

Nor is paedophilia tolerated or condoned in Christianity for that matter.

Shurimgreat

Streetwalker wrote: »

Point out where I said all religions are the same? And what's trendy?

He was possibly referring to this comment.

Streetwalker wrote: »

And our priests. Religion huh.

I think you're trying to equate Christianity with what we are currently seeing in the middle east.

I have no comment to make on Christianity one way or another as a religion, only to say the scale of its modern crimes doesn't really rival ISIS. There are very few Christians if any going around threathening minorities to convert or have their heads chopped off.

DeadHand

Streetwalker wrote: »

And our priests. Religion huh.

In fairness, I don't think our priests ever found justification and motivation for their crimes in their religion and didn't indulge in them in an attempt to mirror the life of Jesus.

They also didn't specifically target the children of different faiths in a show of hate-filled religious supremacism.

Crucially, they were stopped by the culture they were active in. No such resistance from the populations of Mosul or Raqqa.

This kind of Islam inspired mass rape of children isn't just confined to ISIS occupied areas. Fresh examples of Muslim rape gangs in England specifically targeting indigenous non-religious/Christian children are coming to light constantly.

nokia69 wrote: »

no there is a massive difference, your belief that all religions are the same is foolish, and you need to ignore a large amount of evidence to continue with that trendy belief

Point out where I said all religions are the same? And what's trendy?

The_Valeyard wrote: »

They are like a virus, spreading and infecting . Now their heads popping in Libya, right on the doorstep of Italy and the EU.
Other Arab nations are starting to wake up to the threat, not because of the moral outrage over the genocide or atrocities, but that their own regimes could be in danger.

Indeed, the Italians sounded worried and it may be general diplomatic movements but does anyone want to run the risk of them getting anywhere near the EU :eek: I'm sure I'm being very over simplistic here, but if I was a head of state I'd be a bit paranoid like this, just incase....I wouldn't be seemingly playing golf all day!

Karl Stein wrote: »

Stop fucking shit up in the Middle East that causes blow-back. As for ISIS:

ISIS planners are not stupid. They know if they can provoke a large scale reaction, by burning people alive, it would involve a hammering from the air first and foremost. ISIS fighters would run like **** to their bunkers and caves until the initial 'softening' up abated.

Then, when the bombing subsided, these guys would be out with Hi-Def cameras filming dead children being dug out of rubble. Within hours they'd have it slickly edited and all over every Islamist website on the internet. Cue thousands of disgruntled young men all over the world signing up to fight, local populations rallying around the resistance, millions of dollars pouring in from Saudi and Qatari benefactors, perhaps reprisals from extremists in the EU and everything becomes exponentially worse.

Want to hand these guys a propaganda victory like that?

Or maybe, just maybe, it would be better to let them stew in their medieval ****-holes so that the rest of the region can see just how bad their lives could get if these guys gain support/ground.

Bingo. It's not the wests problem and never should be. We need to stop interfering with these matters and let them sort their own sh it out.

The_Valeyard

They are like a virus, spreading and infecting . Now their heads popping in Libya, right on the doorstep of Italy and the EU.
Other Arab nations are starting to wake up to the threat, not because of the moral outrage over the genocide or atrocities, but that their own regimes could be in danger.

Streetwalker wrote: »

And our priests. Religion huh.

no there is a massive difference, your belief that all religions are the same is foolish, and you need to ignore a large amount of evidence to continue with that trendy belief

fr336 wrote: »

Usually I'm well on the left of 'political' arguments and Western interference, but this is getting well out of hand...all the big nations of the world with an interest here (which is a lot now, they seem determined to piss everyone off) need to go at these morons hard until they are eliminated...they will not 'understand' anything, they revel in war, they simply need to be destroyed. Given the chance they're a modern Nazi party and all this dithering I fear could lead to far worse scenarios - how long do you leave a bunch of maniacs with a good bit of money and taking in more 'soldiers' and land and resources by the day before they're a danger to more and more of the world? Projection of power is key and these loons have done a good job of starting something ugly in this respect I fear.

Isis are losing ground by the week. Let the Arabs take care of them its none of our business

nokia69 wrote: »

just like their prophet

And our priests. Religion huh.

Usually I'm well on the left of 'political' arguments and Western interference, but this is getting well out of hand...all the big nations of the world with an interest here (which is a lot now, they seem determined to piss everyone off) need to go at these morons hard until they are eliminated...they will not 'understand' anything, they revel in war, they simply need to be destroyed. Given the chance they're a modern Nazi party and all this dithering I fear could lead to far worse scenarios - how long do you leave a bunch of maniacs with a good bit of money and taking in more 'soldiers' and land and resources by the day before they're a danger to more and more of the world? Projection of power is key and these loons have done a good job of starting something ugly in this respect I fear.

Shurimgreat

Some people would have us believe its not Islamic, unrelated, and so on and so forth. As you said nokia69, this is pure Islam in action, make no mistake. Many jihadists have been very impressed by Al-Baghdadi's knowlege of Islam. He's been studying it for years, if not decades, I think he is a scholar or something. He knows it inside out, far better than those people who say he's not following Islam. Just one of the reasons many have been attracted to the group.

A lot of leaders of Islamic groups in the past didn't really know much about Islam. They were just your regular shoot 'em up terrorists. That can't be said about Al-Baghdadi who is something of an expert and certainly aspires to a fanatical, hardcore, undiluted version of the religion.

kstand

nokia69 wrote: »

what ever the prophet did all male muslims are allowed to do, its all in the koran

When you think about it - basing a religion on the actions of violent, child-raping criminal.

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

is it a fact that in the qu'ran that is clearly justified? is it an interpretive thing?

what ever the prophet did all male muslims are allowed to do, its all in the koran

and yes its a fact he had a 9 year old wife