rangler1 wrote: » There's thousands of cattle going across factory scales and graders....if there was a problem, no one would be selling to the factory, I never have any problem with the lambs weights and grades. A lot of unnecessary paranoia out there about it[/QUOTE] yep but you're a regular supplier, and a member of the largest PG in the 26 counties, you also have your own man on the slaughter line, try sending a trailer load of lambs to one of the other factories and come back and tell us how you get on, been there, done that and have the scars to show
rangler1 wrote: » There's thousands of cattle going across factory scales and graders....if there was a problem, no one would be selling to the factory, I never have any problem with the lambs weights and grades. A lot of unnecessary paranoia out there about it
blue5000 wrote: » Where do you normally sell?
orm0nd wrote: » rangler1 wrote: » There's thousands of cattle going across factory scales and graders....if there was a problem, no one would be selling to the factory, I never have any problem with the lambs weights and grades. A lot of unnecessary paranoia out there about it[/QUOTE] yep but you're a regular supplier, and a member of the largest PG in the 26 counties, you also have your own man on the slaughter line, try sending a trailer load of lambs to one of the other factories and come back and tell us how you get on, been there, done that and have the scars to show I've sold plenty of cattle to Moyvalley and Athleague up to 2005..never a problem. Also I do know that I'd take a hit of 25-35c/kg on fat score 5 lambs plus a weight limit as well. The factories have to penalise hard for stock that they find hard to sell, it's not fair on the people that do it right if they don't
Farmer Pudsey wrote: » You have lead a very sheltered life if you have never been screwed by a factory at some stage. We have all been done at some stage. Have never send cattle to Moyvally and have heard no story's about it. Gennerally it is non regular customers that get screwed. It is generally when they get a super price. Happened to me a few years back, sold a large batch 20 bulls and 12 bullocks. This factory wanted the bulls for the Spanish market at the time. Price was 6p/lb better than local and they were supposed to pick up half the haulage. They did but they deducted it from my cheque. Bulls all graded R's no U's at the time U's were got easier than now and wewight were back as well. Bullocks graded ok but weight were brutal. had kill some out of same batch earlier because of age and weight was no comparsion. No satisfaction to be got as carcasses were shipped. A few years later went to buy a tractor up the country and got talking to the farmer selling again a non regular customer and same story and when he wanted to get them regraded same story. There is no machine with a chip in it that cannot be reprogrammed. Look at the way cars are tuned. These are not exactly rocket technology. Was a factory in SE caught at it a few years ago had they not to pay a fine and give back money on cattle etc. They were also done for over trimming Behaviour is the big thing changing rules and pricing structures. It amazes me how accidently they can do it at the same time. Yet we have never seen the CA look at them. Trim is a huge issue as well. Take earlier that some poster made the point about the 5/head insurance being compulsory wonder do they include all cattle loads of factory's are now stopping insurance on anything that has even a slight limp. There is no trust and it understandable. Lately I see local factory hammering fat score 5- with an 18c penalty above 4+, Really hits the price of the animal expecially for lads that lose QA as well. Saw a lad with a bunch of heifers hammered lately.
TUBBY wrote: » Read my post please. I didn't say Moyvalley in particular. What i said was when people complain about a factory, the issue is killout or grade basically. how many cattle did you weigh and kill there for that 54% killout average. To dismiss a good few posters who actually mentioned that factory, you must kill a hell of a lot of cattle there with no issues.
locha wrote: » Any update on prices this week? Am getting quoted 4.20 for steers on the grid, reckon there is more to be got.
blue5000 wrote: » I think there is 10c/kg lift this week. Anybody get quotes for heifers?
Duke92 wrote: » Yep sorry
Robson99 wrote: » Heifers same as last week [ 4.30 ] with a 10 cent cut on carcasses above 400kgs. Amazing how they can move the goalposts any way any time
Nettleman wrote: » I cant understand this ****e- was there not agreement that weight restrictions/ penalties were gone until end of 2015, or am I wrong??
eddiek wrote: » how do ye think the trade for steers will go for the next few weeks bearing in mind its been on an upward trend for the past couple of months/
MfMan wrote: » Any heads-up for next week?
locha wrote: » A pull on at the moment. For steers got two quotes 4.15 and 4.10 base.
davidk1394 wrote: » Bulls going tomorrow to dawn in waterford 3.90 for O's and 4.00 for R
blue5000 wrote: » How did it go?
davidk1394 wrote: » The kiwi was an O+ 2- at a carcass weight od 360.. freisan R- 2= and a carcass of 380 and the AA R- 3- and a carcass of 370
just do it wrote: » What was their diet for finishing?
Farmer Pudsey wrote: » Good weights but surprised by fat cover considering weight. I have considered that the kiwi being a smaller framed than the Friesians would at that weight be hitting FS 3 especially on ad lib meal. Were they being fed for long