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thinkstoomuch1

Gary Neville wrote: »

Kerry have a different attitude to the league this season - FitzM said that Mayo had way more work done but Kerry have upped it a lot since then - a challenge game v UCC last week - everyone available is back - Maher, Young etc apart from Stacks Players.

I'd say they won't show their hand to Dublin because as u say, they see Dublin as their biggest threat - I'd say they don't see us a real threat at all - their record in Killarney is unreal. They'll be missing Cooper and O Donoghue so they can't even show their full hand if they want to.

The game probably won't be much use to us but even if we win, we will still be massive under-dogs in Killarney. The biggest plus of the Kerry League Game is that it'll test us at MF - they'll have Maher, Walsh, Sheehan & Buckley - serious options for the kick-out. I can't see them looking to con us in this area but Kerry are Kerry so .....................

Midfield is cork achilles heel kerry have no interest doing cork favours league and correctly so they won't want show cork weak sera so midfield won't be tested v Kerry
It be false dawn for cork imo

Buckley moran etc probably go through motion gould do what done last year lord ir air and few cork lads look good

Fitzmaurice brilliant manager will say cork midfield are good and Maguire is huge huge threat to cork
They will actually allow maguire play he's game and see what he can do
No special attention

Cork imo need tale kerry game pinch salt
Nothing absolutely nothing is learned from imo playing kerry in the league
If I was cuthbhert I wouldn't actually play maguire v Kerry league or driscoll or few others as playing well league v Kerry asking for trouble
Maguire huge potential don't let him show full strength league game v Kerry

Id actually hope we play lot second team v Kerry and I'd be view defeat kerry better beating them league as beating them gives cork false security
One game where reculwnty I hope cork loose as league games to kerry when won't take seriously no test cork

Fitzmaurice cute he's rather kerry beaten cork as persuade players cork danger keep focus for munster

I'd last year though u'd anything it's box clever v Kerry in the league totally meaningless game unless do or die for kerry which three week time imo is not

thinkstoomuch1

Gary Neville wrote: »

According to the CB Website - Noel Galvin is back training so might feature v Donegal.

AFAIK - we have Deane, Kevin Crowley and Vaughan still out injured. Anyone know how these lads are doing ?

How is Sean White doing with UCC this season ?

Finbarr McCarthy was fairly certain that we should ahve got a penalty when COD was tackled in the square in the first half - I saw it on TG4 and it didn't look clear cut to me - anyone any views on that ?

You are heading to Ballyshannon in 3 weeks TTM ? At least that's down at the bottom of the county - it's a massive journey - will u drive up and down on the one day ?

Cork have plenty back cover as brilliant white could be don't need him now
Hr needs focus under twenty one this year
Spring for crowley and vaughan likely

Cork minor playing Wexford leinster league football weekend

Waste time imo though when not games it's the management selection is worry
As awesmoric rochestown proved cork football under age huge talent coming through needs be coached
It's futile adding another half back cork panel we have plenty
Midfield and corner back we need

CORKDOUBLE

Not too sure will Cork play Ian MaGuire and Brian O Driscoll against Kerry they will be playing for the u21s the following Wednesday night ...

CORKDOUBLE

Id start Michael Cussen to confuse them !!!

thinkstoomuch1

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Sometimes i wonder could we just stop with this obsessing over Kerry what they will do or not do ....lets face it they got some unreal luck to win last years All-Ireland ...fair play to them we would like a big slice of luck this year as well ....no team win an All-Ireland without it.

Cork have no choice but obesses what kerry are doing ad there greatest ever county and like kilkenny if we focused them more we'd have chance rather belive monense we need luck win all Ireland in that ruined cork hurling last nine years at senior and minor and under twenty one and senior football this absolutely monense we need more luck

Luck imo among elite great great teams or sports winners is the LAST REFUGE FOR SUCCESS
They don't do luck they CONTROL THE CONTROLLABLE

Kerry had more than luck they had a system superbly crafted by two genuine genus managers in fitzmaurice and o Neill who outstanding coaches and made average team much better by system allowing individual talents flourish, reinventing of Sullivan and thry will get better and better

You could argue donegal gifted them a goal but kerry high press forced huge pressure on their kickouts so he rushed that one

To think cork bit luck win sam miles off
You need tactic mastermind genius managers win you all Ireland

ShamoBuc

keane2097 wrote: »

Not sure why there's always such a freak out when a goalie goes up the field. There's very little special about a GK in football, no reason a loose back can't cover back in dire circumstances. If the goalie can carry the ball 60 yards up the field into the opposition half what harm.

You are quite right. But as we have seen they tend to lose possession rather than be productive. When this happens a defender would normally cover in goal - but who marks the defenders man?? If the ball is moved quickly it could lead to problems.
It leads to a panic situation, one that should not happen, unless the keeper retains possession for the team.

thinkstoomuch1

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Id start Michael Cussen to confuse them !!!

Id be starting team Halloron
Loughrey play him out position that game
Loughrey would be starting championship but at half back

O dounughe full back have him centre back panel in June
Clancy start championship at half back
Hazel
Jamie Sullivan
Kevin driscoll
Cussen
Gould
Kerrigan
Kelly needs games so play him but he'll start championship
Colm driscoll
Goulding needs games but he'd be championship panel
Barry driscoll
Hayes

Almost twelve that team imo wouldn't be starting v Kerry imo in championship but if starts them here v Kerry as I'm view these lads of cork beaten we know we have better so won't affect team

If win against non interested kerry no big deal we haven't showed out hand
I'd try be fair also give hazel cussen Hayes starts as I'd be dropping them for championship but there panel may well get game and kerry you do not show strongest team
Kerry beating second string cork imo no set back for championship

Deco99

ShamoBuc wrote: »

You are quite right. But as we have seen they tend to lose possession rather than be productive. When this happens a defender would normally cover in goal - but who marks the defenders man?? If the ball is moved quickly it could lead to problems.
It leads to a panic situation, one that should not happen, unless the keeper retains possession for the team.

Exactly, no problem when cluxton does it, so as long there is a plan in place it could be used as teams tend to sometimes back off the keeper and let them have it so why not if the situation merits, its just if the keeper is unsure himself it can be an unsettling occurence with potential for error, keeper has to make sure either the ball goes very long or dead, or handpassed to a free man, nothing short or sideways that would approach even 80/20 ball.

Gary Neville

Hope I'm not getting carried away but the early signs from management this season are encouraging.

Cuthbert is quoted in Echo as saying that they are working on kick-outs and Ken looked much better yesterday - that's great because he's a class keeper.

I've noticed a massive improvement in Cadogan and Collins and the younger lads like Maguire, BOD and Dorman are looking very promising. The Clancys are in good form too.

You'd expect Donegal to be a big step-up again but we won't be intimidated going there.

thinkstoomuch1

Gary Neville wrote: »

Hope I'm not getting carried away but the early signs from management this season are encouraging.

Cuthbert is quoted in Echo as saying that they are working on kick-outs and Ken looked much better yesterday - that's great because he's a class keeper.

I've noticed a massive improvement in Cadogan and Collins and the younger lads like Maguire, BOD and Dorman are looking very promising. The Clancys are in good form too.

You'd expect Donegal to be a big step-up again but we won't be intimidated going there.

Cadogan was always going to improve with no dualism
Now management did not end that so there hardly imo eligible tale credit for this

Maguire and Clancy been outstanding for ucc and lor do with Morgan imo like o driscoll

He's getting better interview all credit due and right in what he said so fair play cuthbhert for that

Cork only got one score from play in one half yesterday which imo is actually beginning be huge worry, similar v tipp, sixty minutes v Waterford

Dublin bear donegal but look Dublin subs McCaffrey, Kilkenny brogan all didn't feature v cork

I think we have nothing concrete say management have given us real not false hope twi games in when we could just easily lost them

Made great call be fair flangan as fitness coach but coaching side I worried as hurley said many times needs coaching

No suprise here to me ken kick outs are good in yesterday we had for the ist time in a while Collins who yes is not a midfielder for for championship but yesterday with maguire best midfield he had aim at some time
As said last week having midfield aim at actually makes good different

Now just think about yesterday
Corner back got absolutely burned at times yet cork persist half backs corner backs
O rourke had superb game and brilliant in game last week as saud Barry o Donovan last week echo but remember wouldn't started bar injury gould???
Is thar good management???
Dorman or rourke only started last week also due to injury

Due to enforced change cork half forward line with o rourke was outstanding but midfield got better

However make no mistake colm o driscoll and gould likely start in championship so I'd be cautious say management turned any corner when Dublin beat donegal stronger our game and monaghan had free taker like dubs or kerry would drawn game

Lot concerns still imo
I'm seeing individual brilliance from players at times but blanket is conceding a lot still and still needs work as does link ans cohesion with attacking play and midfield is not being fixed imo for championship as we have jusr maguire
If he's injured cork are in huge problem in midfield imo

CORKDOUBLE

I agree with you Gary Neville there actions on the field yesterday suggest that there is a more united group including management ....this year hopefully anyway .....TTM I did not for one minute suggest that all Cork needs to win an All-Ireland is luck ....but luck does play a part in many victorys along with everything else of course ....and I do feel we think too much about Kerry and Kilkenny I could not care about either one them ...thinking too much about your apponent and your beat already before you play them ....they could not care a dam about Cork why should we worry about them ....of course we should aim high we are the rebels after all but no way would I look up to other teams ...rant over !

thinkstoomuch1

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

I agree with you Gary Neville there actions on the field yesterday suggest that there is a more united gap including management ....this year hopefully anyway .....TTM I did not for one minute suggest that all Cork needs to win an All-Ireland is luck ....but luck does play a part in many victorys along with everything else of course ....and I do feel we think too much about Kerry and Kilkenny I could not care about either one them ...thinking too much about your apponent and your beat already before you play them ....they could not care a dam about Cork why should we worry about them ....of course we should aim high we are the rebels after all but no way would I look up to other teams ...rant over !

Agree to an extent but thry don't worry about cork and if I was them i wouldn't either work cork cultural attuide football of failure seven all Ireland's and hurling thirty to kilkenny mid thirties all Ireland's unfortunately days kilkenny worry cork senior hurling with no all Ireland nine years senior caused them have little fear of cork

However it has changes thanks to jbm but greatest way put fear opponents winning all ireland

Quite simply they don't more so football need worry bout cork but we certainly need worry bout them in championship

Cu Baire

"Kerry actually benefited from paddy Cullen off he's line with mike Sheey brilliant chip thar crucial exposed weak Ness goalie off he's line"

Highly relevant point there. That was only 37 years ago.

ShamoBuc

I seem to remember Quirke coming out to join in some hand passing on the 21 - or something like that - at the start of the second half of an all Ireland final...Donaghy obliged that day! Don't ever remember Neliigan having that problem!

Producer Ben

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I seem to remember Quirke coming out to join in some hand passing on the 21 - or something like that - at the start of the second half of an all Ireland final...Donaghy obliged that day! Don't ever remember Neliigan having that problem!

2007 final. The star with his stupid grin up to hill 16

zetecescort

Final round group games today

CIT v DCU at CIT at 7

UCC v UL at Mardyke at 2

dcrosskid

Any report from the Mardke? I heard UL were up by 1.7 to 0.5 just at h/t. UCC have to win to qualify. Some shock if they don't get through.

Innish_Rebel

dcrosskid wrote: »

Any report from the Mardke? I heard UL were up by 1.7 to 0.5 just at h/t. UCC have to win to qualify. Some shock if they don't get through.

UCC 1.7 to 1.8 UL after 6 mins of 2nd half according to UCC twitter account

Innish_Rebel

Innish_Rebel wrote: »

UCC 1.7 to 1.8 UL after 6 mins of 2nd half according to UCC twitter account

1-10 to 1-10 48 mins - UCC had led 1-10 to 1-8...

Innish_Rebel

Innish_Rebel wrote: »

1-10 to 1-10 48 mins - UCC had led 1-10 to 1-8...

Think it has finished 1-14 a piece and GMIT were 17 to 12 up so it means UCC are out...

Smith614

Well if Ger Cunningham couldn't get UCC out of the group stages in the Fitzgibbon cup with the talent available to him it doesn't augur too well for Dublin. Not good Ger.

CORKDOUBLE

Ger has a serious backroom with him in College as well ....i suppose good news for JBM for the leauge .....

Scarecrow 2

Bad result for UCC. The best teams on paper rarely win the Sigerson/Fitzgibbon competitions.

Not good for Cork either as I was told that Anthony spillane was really poor again. Am I right in saying he is the only player on Cork senior panel that is U21?

Richmond Ultra

Scarecrow 2 wrote: »

Bad result for UCC. The best teams on paper rarely win the Sigerson/Fitzgibbon competitions.

Not good for Cork either as I was told that Anthony spillane was really poor again. Am I right in saying he is the only player on Cork senior panel that is U21?

Patrick Collins u-21 as well.

citykat

Scarecrow 2 wrote: »

The best teams on paper rarely win the Sigerson/Fitzgibbon competitions.

That's a very unwelcome development for sure. :mad:

Froggyno11

Fitzgibbon Cup Quarter-Final Draw

Cork IT v NUI Galway
CIT going steadily will have a good chance may be under pressure a bit at the back when it comes down to it, short puck outs to there weakest line on the filed may be decisive but when they move the ball from the half back line forward they look impressive. Need big performances from their inter county stars to progress.

NUIG are solid at the back and if Duggan and O'Brien continue their form they may cause a upset, but with home advantage CIT should come through by a point or two.

Verdict: CIT

UL v UCD
UL prob favorites for Fitz now but LIT knocked a stronger UL team out of it last year. A injury to Kelly or Forde would be a huge blow for them. They would only love to win the Fitz over in LIT.

UCD solid at the back but lack fire power a major concern, only Ó Ruairc, Cronin and King at times up to it, no upset on the cards here.

Verdict:UL

Waterford IT v Dublin IT

I fancy WIT to win it out, were very poor against Mary I prob underestimated them on the day, but with Mahoney, Gleeson, Langton, O'Neill, O'Brien, McGrath and Dillon all available to play upfront and Hamill, Teehan and O'Dwyer at the back they will be hard to beat.

DIT will need Bergin, McNicholas and Guiney to have the games of their lives if they are to advance to Moylish for the weekend. Unfortunately cant see it happening.

Verdict: WIT

Limerick IT v It Carlow
Davy V DJ, Davy has always got the best out of a average bunch of players the departure of Kelly to across the bridge a huge blow, will rely on Reidy,Killeen and O'Halloran for scores while O'Connell and Dempsey will man the defence.

Carlow with Taggy, Maher and Doughan will give LIT a game but with home advantage and the weekend ahead you would have to fancy LIT.

Verdict: LIT

CIT, UL, WIT & LIT to make the weekend.

UCC disappointing, imo they have too many players 5 or 6 of their subs would get on most other team, not a mind the players that dont even play. Have to say Mary I slipped up too but have made huge advances in the last few years.

MUFC91CS

Any fixtures and times for the above?

lizzyod

anthony nash seemed pretty on point at the Q and A

Orizio

lizzyod wrote: »

anthony nash seemed pretty on point at the Q and A

Was this his best Bob Ryan impression or something different...?

CORKDOUBLE

What will the team be v. the Cats lads ?
Anthony Nash
William Kearney Damien Cahalane Conor Sullivn
Chris Joyce Lorcan McLoughlin Cormac Murphy
Daniel Kearney Aidan Walsh
Conor Lehane Bill Cooper Seamus Harnedy
Alan Cadogan Paudi Sullivan Patrick Horgan......???