Duke92 wrote: » Have dealt with moyvalley a few times in the last few years never had a problem and kill out was always very good
wesleysniper38 wrote: » I wouldn't give them a sick hen.
dryan wrote: » Can you folk share your bad experiences here. I send cattle there a few times a year through an agent. I also use other factories in the area. Chq arrives in the post a few days later with agreed quotes. What do i need to be looking out for here?
severeoversteer wrote: » sent one load there before, wont be sending another ! they say one thing and do another
Willfarman wrote: » Weights they tell you are always a mile shy. And the only grade they know how to print is o4.
ellewood wrote: » Sent a load of cows there before out of a bunch, sent rest of bunch to dawn (prob the worst half of the bunch) and got on better in local dawn 2 weeks after I put it down to loss in transport as dawn only 15 mins from me. Did ring to question alright but might as well not have bothered
TUBBY wrote: » Grading a little and killout %. Amount of trim varies between factories. If people unhappy, it generally is that the killout was very poor based on liveweight going in.
Duke92 wrote: » That's a load of crap weighed cattle for there before killed 54% same as abp grading was grand an odd one I might have taught might have done better but that's the same everywhere
I said wrote: » Sent a load once as mentioned earlier shower of fcuks always on the lookout for a low blow. Price agreed was 4.10 plus QA never had cattle grade as bad. When I got the sheet I could nt believe it would have got more if I sent a load of cull cows.
AP2014 wrote: » Looks like they saw ya coming. Non regular customer so decided to make a bit of money of ya.
mf240 wrote: » They saw a lot of lads coming from this area. They only seen them coming once though.
blue5000 wrote: » Has anyone else noticed agents being very keen for angus cattle this week? I'd nearly swear they looked on my cmms profile before they came out to look at the cattle and memorised the tag numbers:(
AP2014 wrote: » . Least ya won't have to pay for clippings twice. ;o)
wesleysniper38 wrote: » When things weren't so bright for the cull cow, I couldn't get all of mine into Clones. Agent got the rest into Moyvalley. All went off on a Wednesday evening. Clones cows killed next day. Moyvalley cows "overbooked" and not killed until following Monday. They were put to nearby feedlot until then; or so I was told.. Anyway they graded below the others although they were similar stock and when I got the cheque I was billed for 4 days feeding at €1.50 per head per day. When I raised a stink I was told to blame the Agent. I had to drive up there myself to get answers but got no satisfaction.
rangler1 wrote: » Moyvalley have a feedlot there fairly close..... Everyone wanted electronic grading and get the humans out of the grading...grading shouldn't be different now in any factory
I said wrote: » Once bitten and how the fcuk would they expect to get any regulars carrying on like that. Anyways you don't deal with factories.
TUBBY wrote: » Nothing wrong with a uniform electronic grader rangler. Calibration and settings on it should be inspected carefully though to ensure there is no mischief in individual factories. With the factories behaviour over the last year and even the E3 payment thing for QA, it's little wonder that trust is an issue in every respect.
Farmer Pudsey wrote: » You have lead a very sheltered life if you have never been screwed by a factory at some stage. We have all been done at some stage. Have never send cattle to Moyvally and have heard no story's about it. Gennerally it is non regular customers that get screwed. It is generally when they get a super price. Happened to me a few years back, sold a large batch 20 bulls and 12 bullocks. This factory wanted the bulls for the Spanish market at the time. Price was 6p/lb better than local and they were supposed to pick up half the haulage. They did but they deducted it from my cheque. Bulls all graded R's no U's at the time U's were got easier than now and wewight were back as well. Bullocks graded ok but weight were brutal. had kill some out of same batch earlier because of age and weight was no comparsion. No satisfaction to be got as carcasses were shipped. A few years later went to buy a tractor up the country and got talking to the farmer selling again a non regular customer and same story and when he wanted to get them regraded same story. There is no machine with a chip in it that cannot be reprogrammed. Look at the way cars are tuned. These are not exactly rocket technology. Was a factory in SE caught at it a few years ago had they not to pay a fine and give back money on cattle etc. They were also done for over trimming Behaviour is the big thing changing rules and pricing structures. It amazes me how accidently they can do it at the same time. Yet we have never seen the CA look at them. Trim is a huge issue as well. Take earlier that some poster made the point about the 5/head insurance being compulsory wonder do they include all cattle loads of factory's are now stopping insurance on anything that has even a slight limp. There is no trust and it understandable. Lately I see local factory hammering fat score 5- with an 18c penalty above 4+, Really hits the price of the animal expecially for lads that lose QA as well. Saw a lad with a bunch of heifers hammered lately.
Base price wrote: » Revenue Commissioners Weights and Measures used to oversee that meters were correct. I think NSAI are the statutory body responsible now. Are mechanical graders covered by weights and measures regulations?
