sean mac wrote: » Tactically they are looking at being defensive but adopting the best of the Donegal system i.e. breaking at pace when the ball is won. With players/athletes like dorman, Clancy, bodriscoll,cadogan around the half back line added to the class of Collins and orourke this system should suit cork down to the ground. However it needs a playmaker/quarter back type player around the middle like donncha (at this stage will he last 70 minutes?). However the full back line is a huge issue with ONE caveat - cadogan seemed to go strsaight to full back? and obviously noel galvin when fit will slot inthere, its the other corner position and again I think when shields is back will do fine, but we have NO cover. Have to also addd why is cussen on the bench and lauded by management who then refuse to bring him on even do we are getting beaten in midfield?? Have we turned a corner - NO too early to say that, however credit to all for the levels of energy & fitness impressive. If ohallorhan has a longer kick he needs to change things up and use it, when paddy Kelly and mark Collins are playing in the half forward line they are obvious kickout targets away from the centre of the field. Our strongest area is our half back line - we have some superb potential wing backs with power, pace and football, our inside line once fed QUICKLY is lethal but our midfield is not at the races and its difficult to see a solution with the players available - Maguire is a fine player and does a huge amount of work, fintan is not a midfielder at this level.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » I'd agree with that What's best option for midfield you think now as imo we have left ourselves limited options
Gary Neville wrote: » I'd agree that Donal Og was only average today but I think he might make the grade, in time. I agree that Hayes brings something as a last quarter sub - good vision and will take a score. We are obviously badly caught for corner backs - Galvin is probably an option - we may have to use BOD there. Jamie was OK. It's not Cuthbert's fault - the lads are not there. Loughrey is a problem - great ahtlete but poor vision - modern game requires wing backs to be able to link play. Ken O Halloran is a very good shot stopper and is hard to beat but we won't beat a top side unless we can mix kick-outs - long and short - he can't kick long with the required accuracy and our MF'ers need an edge - by placing the ball to where they run. Bastick outfielded them with ease today. KOH is a luxury we can't afford IMO. A vital win today and maybe we can win our 2 other home games and sneak an away win (Tyrone are our best chance) 4 wins might give a semi slot.
wackokid wrote: » Thanks Garry. I was beginning to wonder if my football brain was gone soggy as TTM has a bit of a soft spot, or is it hard spot for the Ross man, and continues to call him school yard names. Pity, as TTM seems like a decent skin otherwise. I haven't had a chance to look at the game again ( yet ) but I liked Cadogan's sortes upfield and his leadership is required if we are to progress. Mark needs to speed up his actions but apart from that he's one cool dude and will get better when the swallows come. I think we will beat Tyrone and Derry but not Monaghan who were very impressive last night and are a good league team. Kerry will be beatable too if we keep this defensive system in place and hockey into them like Mayo did today. All in all, a good day at the races.
sean mac wrote: » Quite simply TTM, its ian Maguire and a.n other for me at this stage. Playing monaghan away next weekend against the very shrewd malachy o rourke. They will have 2 very big physical aggressive midfielders, so with what we have I think he has to go with fintan again. Further down the line I would have hope a recuperated ruairi deane with his work and aggression could prove a good foil to Maguire. Add in a half forward line of Kelly/Collins/orourke to win ball and use it intelligently and this area could improve for cork big time. Having paddy Kelly centre forward would help as a further kick out option. Management themselves only see fintan as a stop gap at midfield as witnessed by their dropping of him after the Kerry game. And of course forgot sean kiely, however I would see him at this young stage of his career of having a huge impact off the bench with 20 minutes to go, his pace, power and energy would be well suited to croke park. There are options if somewhat limited but management need to arrange a system to get the best out of it.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Sunshine practice what you preach please before your kind enough to pass judgement I'n future Thanks You change views games on games fair play you belive In that I like have a constant view Long way go before we say cork turned a corner
denishurley wrote: » Stephen Cronin and Kiely were both subs today
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Thanks Denis weren't named twenty six originally though We're they late call up? Are cork carry league panel 32 or so and are Desmond Hodnett and mac eoin dropped of it please,,,,????
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Where is harty cup final Denis please? What's the all Ireland series draw for this format? Is it open draw that the loosing finalist play ulster and Galway and I presume finalist can't meet again each other til the final?? Or how does it work please
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Two good performance today by ephie Fitzgerald some win for clare Tipp apparently hard done by in armagh against the much lauded mcgeeney armagh and lost by a point Creedon doing good job there
commonsense. wrote: » Lads can anyone explain Corks performance yesterday in light of everything that was said on this forum about cutbert. Cards on the table here, i'm a hurling man but i had to wade through mounds of what now appears to have been serious ****e in light of y'days performance in an attempt to find the hurling commentary. If a complete newcomer to football was reading this thread he would think that ccb had appointed an alien to run the team. It's a good job nobody of note takes these forums seriously and pays any attention to whats being said. Suggestion: if the standard of football analysis dosen't seriously improve we will have to have separate threads for football and hurling.
denishurley wrote: » They were added instead of Tomás Clancy and Donncha O'Connor. I don't think an official league panel has been announced. Cashel or Cahir is what I'm hearing, likely to clash with Sigerson Cup final. I'll check All-Ireland draw
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Great news for richestown is good counsel play Kieran the all Ireland champions next week in a semi and one those will be knocked out of the all Ireland series Carlow and st Peter Wexford other semi If rochestown win munster likely play Galway team or looses of leinster so seem be winner of carlow team or peters Wexford and It would seem imo there beatable Obviously thurles if loose are in the back door still But rochestown imo if win munster huge huge chance to make the all Ireland final
Cu Baire wrote: » That's a good team to counteract Dublin's strengths. Should be a very interesting game with Cork to shade it by 2 points.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Look when you add insight to debate cork football you will be taken seriously One swallow never made a summer If you had parftipate in debate past when results were poor you view would have more value Imo your more interest in critise view many fans here regards football who after shambles killarney and Dublin had every right to question things Today was great two points but don't think the winter has ended just cause you get one bright ray sunshine Could easily rain next week You don't speak for forum and you with respect just in short time so you'll have earn bit mileage before you suggest divide forum imo Cork gaa thread hurling and football No divide necessary and such divide of threads would be insult cork gaa as cork gaa isn't bout hurling but all matters You admit your not football fan yet one win you disregard others views that were valid One win against under strength team have you learned anything from past year??? Have a bit common sense just one game yet you regards talk as monense Key issues still haven't been solved team I'll tell you what utter nonsense though some wise man telling all ans sundry that wealthy limerick man gave forty thousands each to three limerick schools for support yer when numerous posters agrees what was a load of bull thar wise man didn't back thread Forum is cork gaa thar means women ladies football camoige hurling and football You want to label yourself as hurling man only your choice don't expect many long term posters long before your time do same who seem happy forum way it is This is cork gaa thread no other forums like Dublin or Galway do it no need to do same Setting up divide is not good imo I'f football and hurling had two separate boards fighting own corners maybe but not way it is Christ football is already fighting poor relation with dual status last year and football always second best at least get good coverage here I for one have no interest skipping between cork football and hurling threads If majority here want that fair enough That happens imo sad for cork gaa here as football thread will get barely a following and if that happens it saddens me to say I'll retire my posting on this thread and gaa forum and I think geuinely cork thread is great thread as this forum is a great forum Next that happens people will say cork ladies get separate threads and what you end up with is sparsely population threads where they forgotten bout Here at least everything is together and nobody is forgotten Cork gaa was never one commodity but imo has two precious commodity hurling and football both men and women
Hurleratheart wrote: » Rochestown won't and shouldn't be lookin past there next game That the ****e other counties go on. About, on Limk forum it says Ard Scoil had themselves down as a Croke Cup team and where are they now? Rochestown won't be lookin past Harty final In fairness TTM your thrown your full support behind Rochestown now, every game they won, your supporting them more and more, you can't be accused otherwise welcome aboard The thinking here before was they were behind other teams in Cork, but there is some charachter in this team, leaders all over pitch really talented hurlers incredible spirit and workrate and they earned the right to fight for Harty now- only cork team left standing now and fair f**ks to them aidan lonegan on red FM said they werent respected - well I think they have respect finally and there putting there school on the map fantastic day yesterday I was worried Rochestown hadn't enough hurling dine with football between games and even tough they started well, some of the shooting was poor and there were a lot of wides- they will have extra few days to sharpen up after next weekend if they avoid injuries Injuries and strains are part of any squad but the lads are getting litle chance to rest up 2 or 3 of them have niggles and if you lose a player or two your screwed Roll on 21st Feb and hoping for Harty history for Rochestown. Was talk of Mallow after game for final, or fermoy another good option - don't think Cahir good enough for a Harty Final
Cu Baire wrote: » You heard it here first lads.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Seen as your great tell us you're right sorry bust your bubble but YOU WERE WRONG REGARDS ARD SCOIL V ROCHESTOWN You said ard scoil win Just be fair and equal seen as your fast pull others
Gary Neville wrote: » Whilst your criticism of the football analysis on here is unfair, IMO - your point suggesting that in light of this good performance, the criticism of Cuthbert may have been OTT, deserves consideration. Cuthbert presented himself (via a slick power point show) as having the nous to manage Cork and persuaded a selection committee to appoint him in preference to John Cleary (a man with a far more impressive CV) He failed to implement effective tactics and the players were deeply unhappy with many aspects of his management. Many feared that morale in the camp was still very low but hoped that the fact that all of last year's panel (bar Walsh, Cahalane, Butcher and Dineen) returned, was evidence that the players were determined to get on with things and hope that Cuthbert would learn. He has brought in an excellent S & C man and a very highly rated sports psychologist so there are some positive signs. This was a must win game but Dublin had 1/3 of their c/ship side and we had 2/3 of ours so a 1 pt win was the minimum required. Cork were very open in the 1st half and wasted a lot of scoring opportunities so there is still cause for concern over the coaching but the 2nd half was much better and the team will travel to Monaghan in a good frame of mind. It's also to put this win into context - Dublin came to Cork with a reserve team and were pushing hard for a win late on having missed a number of reasonable goal chances - when Cork put out a reserve side against a Div 4 side -Waterford - we lost by a point.
Cu Baire wrote: » Originally Posted by Cu Baire Quarter finals all went as predicted although Castletroy left it late today. Rochestown could cause upset in semi but I expect Thurles to win it out. Yes. I was way off there....
