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So UTV Ireland is launching on January 01, 2015 with a proper launch of its schedule on January 5.... It's now November 10 and no advertising online, in magazine, newspapers, billboards etc for programmes and launch.

No news on whether it will be on Saorview... probably one of the worst channel launches in history?

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lertsnim

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

This is probably the biggest mistake UTVIRL has had so far in programming failing to realise that with Corrie and Emmerdale featuring highly on the NTA's (and even Eastenders) that they wouldnt pay the money for the rights and letting TV3 swoop in for it as a spoiler tactic.

Have you considered that UTV Ireland were unable to bid for them? This "fallout" against UTV Ireland shows how clueless people are about all of this and why using the UTV brand was idiotic.

icdg

twinklerunner wrote: »

I presume that the only complication is that they would need to have Irish news during the 'local news' opt outs.

Yes. By way of background, ITV pays UTV for the news it provides during Good Morning Britain in NI, as this is provided under the ITV Breakfast franchise not the UTV one. UTV Ireland would have to provide these bulletins at its own costs. They could always just run some sort of breakfiller but I think they'd want to do it properly.

twinklerunner

icdg wrote: »

Very interesting note regarding Good Morning Britain in UTVs FAQs - the insinuation is that they do have the rights to show it and may do so if there's enough demand out there.

I presume that the only complication is that they would need to have Irish news during the 'local news' opt outs.

icdg

Very interesting note regarding Good Morning Britain in UTVs FAQs - the insinuation is that they do have the rights to show it and may do so if there's enough demand out there.

Elmo

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

its seems major fallout on twitter for utvireland not showing the NTA's last might. A huge amount of negative tweets. TV3 even responding to the negative tweets saying they have it exclusively and taking great joy in the tweets. This is probably the biggest mistake UTVIRL has had so far in programming failing to realise that with Corrie and Emmerdale featuring highly on the NTA's (and even Eastenders) that they wouldnt pay the money for the rights and letting TV3 swoop in for it as a spoiler tactic.

Bigger mistake of TV3 by not show it live. TV3 had the rights through other packages. Do really see why UTV are to blame for TV3's schedule

icdg

That's a bit cheeky of TV3. It's not UTV's fault that TV3 have the rights, it's TV3's fault for not showing it live when they had the rights to do so. The deal with TV3 may have been a long term one done before UTV even entered the market.

channelsurfer2

its seems major fallout on twitter for utvireland not showing the NTA's last might. A huge amount of negative tweets. TV3 even responding to the negative tweets saying they have it exclusively and taking great joy in the tweets. This is probably the biggest mistake UTVIRL has had so far in programming failing to realise that with Corrie and Emmerdale featuring highly on the NTA's (and even Eastenders) that they wouldnt pay the money for the rights and letting TV3 swoop in for it as a spoiler tactic.

icdg

Souriau wrote: »

UTV Ireland news theme music shouldn't be the same as UTV Live news
I was at home today and the TV was on but not watching it as others were
then I heard the UTV Live news theme music playing so I went in to watch it only to see is not Belfast news but Dublin news, as I wanted to watch the latest news from Newcastle of elderly couple died in the caravan.

Now I see is stupid to have same music for UTV news for UTV Live and UTV Ireland Live.
It would been far better to have it own idenity theme music for UTV Ireland Live, more Irishness feel to it.

As I say there is nothing remotely "Irish" about either TV3 or TG4's themes. RTE has O'Donnell Abu at the moment, but go back to any of their themes over the previous 40 odd years and there was nothing remotely Irish about them either.

Elmo

Jack Nana wrote: »

How can this station fund itself with such poor viewing numbers. Surely only a matter of time before its kaput.

They've worked it out, Coro St and Emmers are bringing them an audience, as time goes one they will start moving some programming and looking for other programming. But the launch was not well managed, over the last year UTV Ireland should have bought US programming, considered their audience and made a number of good Irish commissions, even something like The Restaurant would have served them well (pardon the pun).

Souriau wrote: »

I wanted to watch the latest news from Newcastle of elderly couple died in the caravan..

I know your (Souriau) not part of the argument which says "I am not interested in what happens north of the boarder" but if something like this happened like this in the North would you be interested? The question is not directed at you Souriau.

lertsnim

I'd imagine most people here wouldn't have a clue what the UTV Live music is.

Souriau

UTV Ireland news theme music shouldn't be the same as UTV Live news
I was at home today and the TV was on but not watching it as others were
then I heard the UTV Live news theme music playing so I went in to watch it only to see is not Belfast news but Dublin news, as I wanted to watch the latest news from Newcastle of elderly couple died in the caravan.

Now I see is stupid to have same music for UTV news for UTV Live and UTV Ireland Live.
It would been far better to have it own idenity theme music for UTV Ireland Live, more Irishness feel to it.

Jack Nana

How can this station fund itself with such poor viewing numbers. Surely only a matter of time before its kaput.

Charles Slane

Sam Russell wrote: »

It happens to be the name of the programme, It is a bit like buying a carton of 'Fresh Milk' - it still says it is fresh on the carton long after it has gone sour.

Perfect analogy, ha ha!

Sam Russell

icdg wrote: »

Or would be, if TV3 hadn't decide to wait till Saturday instead of showing them live. I'm not sure what that is all about. (For added cheek, they are listed as "The National Television Awards - Live!" even though they will be three days old.)

It happens to be the name of the programme, It is a bit like buying a carton of 'Fresh Milk' - it still says it is fresh on the carton long after it has gone sour.

They would have to edit the programme to change its name.

Elmo

icdg wrote: »

The NTAs? They are. On Saturday....

So UTV Ireland don't have the rights to show them.

icdg

Elmo wrote: »

I though they were on TV3?

The NTAs? They are. On Saturday....

Elmo

I though they were on TV3?

iseegirls

They repeated the Soap Awards 2014 before Christmas at 9pm on a Monday, and the rating did very well for a Monday night. And this was a ceremony that was first broadcast in May. Found it really odd that viewers would've switched on for it. Maybe they were under the impression that it was new and kept watching.

icdg

Kinda ruins any sort of suspense involved in the occasion though.

channelsurfer2

icdg wrote: »

Or would be, if TV3 hadn't decide to wait till Saturday instead of showing them live. I'm not sure what that is all about. (For added cheek, they are listed as "The National Television Awards - Live!" even though they will be three days old.)

Probably because RedRock is on tonight and they didnt want to preempt it....

icdg

Or would be, if TV3 hadn't decide to wait till Saturday instead of showing them live. I'm not sure what that is all about. (For added cheek, they are listed as "The National Television Awards - Live!" even though they will be three days old.)

channelsurfer2

ftakeith wrote: »

NTA awards means nothing to most TV viewers

TV3 will show all the homemade TV content in the future

on the contrary, with the death one of Coronations streets most popular charatacters, you will find that the NTA's will rate very highly and the irish interest in them is always big.

irishfeen

Gits_bone wrote: »

TV3 must have breathed a sigh of relief when they see how awful UTV is.

IMO opinion they would be very foolish to think this is it from UTVI.. When Irish rights become available over the next few years they can expect fierce competition.

Gits_bone

TV3 must have breathed a sigh of relief when they see how awful UTV is.

ftakeith

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

the NTA decision is a strange one. They seem to have been outbid by tv3 for it by all accounts, yet werent even going to show it until people asked them on Twitter to show it.

NTA awards means nothing to most TV viewers

'whale rider' was the only thing I recorded on UTV ireland on my sky box as it was shown on saturday 3/1/15
The soaps repeats takeover that timeslot now

UTVI is a terrible TV channel

UTVI will merge or buy TV3 in a panic around 2016 than all the ITV content will then be on UTVI that will replace 3e on EPG placement
TV3 will show all the homemade TV content in the future

twinklerunner

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

the NTA decision is a strange one. They seem to have been outbid by tv3 for it by all accounts, yet werent even going to show it until people asked them on Twitter to show it.

It makes you wonder if they really know their audience 'down south'.

channelsurfer2

the NTA decision is a strange one. They seem to have been outbid by tv3 for it by all accounts, yet werent even going to show it until people asked them on Twitter to show it.

twinklerunner

Sam Russell wrote: »

A better name might have been Ireland TV or just ITV, because that is what they show.

Or UTVR. The R could stand for both Republic of Ireland and Repeats

Sam Russell

A better name might have been Ireland TV or just ITV, because that is what they show.

JCX BXC

zeebre12 wrote: »

Why didn't they call the channel UTV 5..?is it meant to be our 5th channel?, like channel 5 in the UK (because news on the channel)?

I think someone needs a quick look at the old tv menu.

Utv were the 9th channel to launch on saorview.

The channels that launched before it are:
RTE ONE
RTE TWO
TV3
TG4
3e
RTE ONE+1
RTE JUNIOR
RTE NEWS NOW.

Even if you exclude the last 3 who don't have wide coverage, Utv was the 6th channel to launch with coverage on most major tv platforms.. UTV Ireland is also a far better name IMO.