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thinkstoomuch1

Hurleratheart wrote: »

Good luck to all Cork Schools and hopefully Youghall can join Rochestown in Harty semis - weather could be problem again

don't know how Clonakilty are but surely a fighting chance against Killorglin do I think there a repeat schools so would have a lot on the age

Some acheivemen if Richestown get to S/f but I think twill spoil them for hurling if it hey do but the lads have to have theire chance at football too - Tis hurling will suffer the lovngerthere at the football
There record at football last few years desperate apart from Frewen last year but it's a talented group of lads so they could do to again tomorrow

Anyone at them might put up a write up

Rocjestown lads any injury worries regards football lads involved hurling from last Thursday ?I

thinkstoomuch1

http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0120/674382-womens-gaelic-players-association-launched/

rebelomar

TTM any update on the good news you alluded to for Cork football last week?

Hurleratheart

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Rocjestown lads any injury worries regards football lads involved hurling from last Thursday ?I

Not that I know

Rochestown has enough bad luck last year losing key players before Doon game , at least this year they have Meaney coming back after horrific ankle break and fair play to him showing great hunger

There due a rub if the green after last year

thinkstoomuch1

Hurleratheart wrote: »

Not that I know

Rochestown has enough bad luck last year losing key players before Doon game , at least this year they have Meaney coming back after horrific ankle break and fair play to him showing great hunger

There due a rub if the green after last year

Sound for that

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/alan-quinlan-crushing-defeat-shows-the-huge-task-now-facing-munster-1.2072906

Now this is rubgy article but no I did not get thread mixed up I deliberately posted here as show remarkable honesty and courage and openness call a spade a spade from an ex munster hero
Ovivously munster problems different to cork but concept of though remains same, but munster will admit problems thry have in cork football just denys it has problems and even not just since Sunday loss but go back munster final nightmare not dicky bird bout it from ex cork greats

See way quinny said munster probably so sick this week result they don't need ex players coming in criticism but at same time he feels the pain of loss and feels no easy way say it but things must be said

I guarantee you Paul O Connell etc won't feel one bit despise for quinny saying harsh truth they expect honesty within and as quinny said munster way mot feel sorry but rather be criticism

Munster huge problems quinny identified a range of problems in levels, cork football has also problems imo in two levels but yet no former great will say harsh truths
None this nonsense from munster foley was year one either as excuse, was said munster problems ground level up
The honesty to say no way will munster get a championd cup win was honesty within munster

Some belive cork that they could win all ireland this year

Clear difference in munster reaction to defeats as here said not acceptable and munster demand more, whether they have. The recourses remain be seen but they won't hide behind such excuses

Cork football on complete contrast has resources only second to Dublin imo but simply attitude is all wrong towards cork football and where failure is despised in munster rubgy cork football accepts it as it is what it is without actually trying change from what it is to what cork football could be

There is a huge lessons cork football could learn from munster attitude to disaster defeats imo

Youghal I feel can win today beat castletroy last year under sixteen

Darragh o brien as centre back has mark Barry Nash and man marker him all the match
He can hold him
Rest half back line cathal deane should be able Ian Coates
Deane under age next year just sixteen fine player and Coates tough but deane good hurlers and can score half back

Fine half back line and cork under seventeen Kevin Murphy terrific hurler I praises many tome here and this fine unit and he has tough ask in marking Nicholas but he can do it

Midfield lorchan lyons last year minor and o meara on Limerick current minor panel is some unit but midfield with farell should be okay but imo Waterford minor hurler lucey or other minor Waterford last year o Hallorhan may need drop from forwards to help stem tide as lyons was brilliant this year for them

They have changed forwards a bit and interesting who starts

Only man half back line worry about is Andrew la touched Cosgrove imo so Dalton if he's on him even Dalton held once keeps Cosgrove dominate then lucey etc can benefit

I think they will play a sweeper with lucey helping midfield and likes Hallorhan who play midfield dripping back half forward pick up breaks and run at castletroy
Ag could beaten the Limerick side, and doon did by playing a sweeper and Colmans apparently had them in bother with a sweeper so if lotty ex cork footballer plays sweeper and imo he's good coach thry can win this

Full back youghal are fine with Mccarthy and should take Conor Nicholas as main man in the forwards and he's brother half forward will look feed him with good ball

Close to call but I think youghal can win this, certainly, I think Thurles beat either team but that for another day, if youghal can spread scoring aside from Dalton and keep this low scoring tight game they can win
If it becomes a shootout only one winner in castletroy

Did this earlier never got chance post it

ANNONCORK

[ote="Smith614;9"]And when exactly were thccasions?[thote]

Without meaning to sound like his biggest fan considering i only know his hurling credibility maybe it's comments like that that turns hurlers off inter county hurling do you actually know his hurler career up to now? I'll say the following and I'll say no more about him. I care about cork hurling in general not just aspects of it.
He's been player with cork underage since he was 14 winning the all Ireland with the under 16s scoring something like 4 29 in 2 games ( feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) below in tipp. he was starting on the minor team by the age of 16 and by 17 basically carried them through alot of the games (my nephew played with him for minors saw most games ). With his club after being held up neck by his minor trainer at the time (can't remember his name retired this year thank god) he continked to play minor with him above him. he managed to play through the whole intermediate championship with a broken toe (ballyhea back room team source confirmed this) and yes he only showed a fraction of what he's made of for the championship but delivered the goods in the pairc in the final when he was needed most. Still only showing a fraction of what he is made of. Now if u know any other hurler who'll continue hurler with a broken toe name them.people question his commitment and ambition what more proof can you need if he is willing to play through it. If anyone who sees him play regular you might notice he is actually more suited to centre back! Anyone see him play with an interferm team can't remember who the name of team was but saw one match in limerick and by god he was a rock cleaning up. I can't speak of what he is like off the pitch but on the field i believe he has done nothing but show serious potential. Isn't he just 19? He has the build the hands the head he always can make his own scores! Him and lehand together would be gold dust or even better have him as our centre back!!! There are serious young players in Cork but i have to stand by my beliefs and say he hands down has the most potential and talent.
Why do none of care he could win matches for us lads! I'd say it's because he's from a country club and ye don't see any of it only believe what whispers ye hear maybe?? If he was from city club playing regularly with the likes of Sars, Blackrock, would ye care more? Possibly yes! Now I've enough said let the after math begin.

ANNONCORK

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ANNONCORK wrote: »

[ote="Smith614;9"]And when exactly were thccasions?[thote]

Without meaning to sound like his biggest fan considering i only know his hurling credibility maybe it's comments like that that turns hurlers off inter county hurling do you actually know his hurler career up to now? I'll say the following and I'll say no more about him. I care about cork hurling in general not just aspects of it.
He's been player with cork underage since he was 14 winning the all Ireland with the under 16s scoring something like 4 29 in 2 games ( feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) below in tipp. he was starting on the minor team by the age of 16 and by 17 basically carried them through alot of the games (my nephew played with him for minors saw most games ). With his club after being held up neck by his minor trainer at the time (can't remember his name retired this year thank god) he continked to play minor with him above him. he managed to play through the whole intermediate championship with a broken toe (ballyhea back room team source confirmed this) and yes he only showed a fraction of what he's made of for the championship but delivered the goods in the pairc in the final when he was needed most. Still only showing a fraction of what he is made of. Now if u know any other hurler who'll continue hurler with a broken toe name them.people question his commitment and ambition what more proof can you need if he is willing to play through it. If anyone who sees him play regular you might notice he is actually more suited to centre back! Anyone see him play with an interferm team can't remember who the name of team was but saw one match in limerick and by god he was a rock cleaning up. I can't speak of what he is like off the pitch but on the field i believe he has done nothing but show serious potential. Isn't he just 19? He has the build the hands the head he always can make his own scores! Him and lehand together would be gold dust or even better have him as our centre back!!! There are serious young players in Cork but i have to stand by my beliefs and say he hands down has the most potential and talent.
Why do none of care he could win matches for us lads! I'd say it's because he's from a country club and ye don't see any of it only believe what whispers ye hear maybe?? If he was from city club playing regularly with the likes of Sars, Blackrock, would ye care more? Possibly yes! Now I've enough said let the after math begin.

I wouldn't be despairing just yet - As you say he is turning 20 this year and hopefully plenty of time for him ina cork Jersey

Beautiful striker of ball, for sure, great wrists

He can't be picked if he doesn't make himself available - fellas that age can get distracted but hopefully that will change

being from a city club would make no difference whatsoever

wackokid

St Francis Rochestown 1-9 Col.Na Sceilge 2-5 Result
I might be 1 point out but Rochestown won it anyway.............blame the pig ignorant Kerry supporters ( happy couple) who stood in front of my car and wouldn't budge so I might have missed a wide or a point.
Good conditions and perfect sod which is a credit to the Knocknagree Club.
H.T score St.Francis led 1-5 to 2-1 having lorded possession but full back line caught for cuteness and failed to deal with
No 13 Darren Casey who is a little bullet with a scorching turn of pace and full of Kerry tricks. The two goals were well worked but against the run of play and against a slight breeze. NO 8 Mark Sugrue for Scellig is a giant who can also play football and he won everything that came in his direction.
2nd half Daniel Meaney came on at M.F and Sugrue was no longer the boss in that area. St.Francis also moved No 7 Sean Powter closer to goal and he gave an exhibition of of defensive play as well neutralising No 13 Casey. He's not tall, but he is a gifted operator and I remember seeing him last year in Thurles v Dublin minors where he almost turned back the blue tide on his own.
Shane Kingston (Capt) wore No 11 and was influential without being dominant. He's a class act and as well as scoring two or three points from play he converted all his frees bar one late in the game. He it was that laid it on a plate for No 12 Evan Ryle to score his goal mid way through the 1st half.
Nice to see a Cork team beat a Kerry team for a change but they will have to tighten up at the back if they are to go any further IMHO.
Ref.Derek O Mahony ( Tipp) seemed to be on top of his job and apart from the usual missed jersey pulls he dealt with all transgressions fairly and it wasn't a free ridden game by any means. He flashed the Yellow card at three Kerry lads, 7, 9 and 12 while Cork's 4 and 6 have Yellow on their CVs after today.

zetecescort

Clonakilty won today also and the Cork teams are on opposite sides of the draw with Clon playing Chorca Dhuibhne and Rochestown playing St. Brendans. well done to both today

CORKDOUBLE

Well done to Rochestown and Clon today tough luck on Youghal ....cruel way to lose ....will Rochestown fall between two stools ? a bit like Cratloe in the Munster club....hopefully they can win one title...

Hurleratheart

wackokid wrote: »

St Francis Rochestown 1-9 Col.Na Sceilge 2-5 Result
I might be 1 point out but Rochestown won it anyway.............blame the pig ignorant Kerry supporters ( happy couple) who stood in front of my car and wouldn't budge so I might have missed a wide or a point.
Good conditions and perfect sod which is a credit to the Knocknagree Club.
H.T score St.Francis led 1-5 to 2-1 having lorded possession but full back line caught for cuteness and failed to deal with
No 13 Darren Casey who is a little bullet with a scorching turn of pace and full of Kerry tricks. The two goals were well worked but against the run of play and against a slight breeze. NO 8 Mark Sugrue for Scellig is a giant who can also play football and he won everything that came in his direction.
2nd half Daniel Meaney came on at M.F and Sugrue was no longer the boss in that area. St.Francis also moved No 7 Sean Powter closer to goal and he gave an exhibition of of defensive play as well neutralising No 13 Casey. He's not tall, but he is a gifted operator and I remember seeing him last year in Thurles v Dublin minors where he almost turned back the blue tide on his own.
Shane Kingston (Capt) wore No 11 and was influential without being dominant. He's a class act and as well as scoring two or three points from play he converted all his frees bar one late in the game. He it was that laid it on a plate for No 12 Evan Ryle to score his goal mid way through the 1st half.
Nice to see a Cork team beat a Kerry team for a change but they will have to tighten up at the back if they are to go any further IMHO.
Ref.Derek O Mahony ( Tipp) seemed to be on top of his job and apart from the usual missed jersey pulls he dealt with all transgressions fairly and it wasn't a free ridden game by any means. He flashed the Yellow card at three Kerry lads, 7, 9 and 12 while Cork's 4 and 6 have Yellow on their CVs after today.

Some achievement for Rochestown to be in both semis

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/2015/01/16/mcdonnell-is-bamboozled-by-corks-stagnation/

I totally agree totally one hundred in ten per cent that talent I'd in cork football but it'd nothing at all do with believe to significant it'd portrayed as here imo that Mcdonall blamed lack success on imo and I maybes just me but I can't for life me see how it's mystery cork haven't won since 2010 much
Mcdonall was a fine footballer I was huge fan of him.

Under couinhan cork lads had huge belief, main reason bear limerick extra time, came back v Dublin and scrapes over poor poor down
Also reason why cork always came back v kerry been down huge leads and be fair couinhan cork football teams died with their boots on for him

Belief wasn't the problem and I said this before communication and belief work ethic under conor was second to none and equal to most. Managers
Without it cork wouldn't won all Ireland

Reason cork didn't push on after that win was you look couinhan record big games most them tactically he was miles off what required, peadesr healy imo tremendous football man huge passion as will be proven with crokes good coach but tactical nous imo is off the mark and he's record skib etc proves this point this year
Imo crokes won't do much this year

Kerry under jack out witted conor time again big games
Couinhan side should walked all Ireland but scramble home against limited limerick a poor down and Dublin team that I'll discipline saved cork

Couinhan faults were ruthless executions as coach in first two years immense credo for building he's team and dropping cussen,Hayes and outstanding masters but poor work rate he didn't hold these values dear when he was imo far too loyal to the team won him all Ireland and despite glaring weakness in games like three I mentioned he had not Brian cody shrewd thought to forget bout won in new year and evolve make ruthless changes team
He also tries copy cat kerry by playing Walsh and nick as full forwards in Donagh role
He continued play kissable despite clare exposing he's lack pace and he's poor one one defending

Cork tactical wise were a nightmare in couinhan last year in 2013 playing Walsh as a centre forward, a man with clear clear as day weakness in kicking yet asked play creative midfielder v Galway
He said cork game v kerry they needed play what front them
Fair enough but as a manager he had a duty to he's teams to see what in front him and he imo didn't with some strange selection calls biggest of course playing john miskrlla best attacking half back country that time corner back against kerry and starting kireran o Connor I'n the ist place

Now moving along cuthbhert
I would love to know why Mcdonall think this manager is thoughtful and shrewd when imo nothing so far has proved so
Bixzare team selection, players leaving panel, humiliation to kerry, yes article done before Waterford fair enough, uninspiring interview, no coach and a coach who actually only imo lad knew what he was doing last year left,I can't see how faith In this manager

He mentioned belief players would have as cuthbhert could install it
Imo how can cuthbhert instil belief with no proven manager in he's set up and with all going on last year and blaming players with no accept the management made most mistakes
Imo this set up lacks many things and therefore I find hard belive players truly belive in this set up and Sunday certainly imo didn't help

I often wondered how these guys are ex picked to give one view it

How is it always we get side pro management, why doesn't anyone just speak realism on performance so far or I'n this case gave clear examples why such faith in management

Imo blaming players as of they have mental block, or lack big stage temperament imo Is wrong

My view is tactically cork way off under couinhan but now under new set up tactically there way off, but it's much much worse as we have no coach , spirt, moral and team work rate is imo open to questionable

Mcdonall raised some good points but he's actually way way off in reason why cork flatter to deceive imo
He's convinced cuthbhert and Co turn it around????
Davis, sexton, sullivan young in management with little I'f any club experience
Cuthbhert has won nothing at all at club even and success st minor was down to gene getting all Ireland final imo
I still am just confused how the current management with some are praised despite woeful results and nothing back up this belief cork have competent coaching set up imo

This article was before Sunday night mare
Since that night mare all I read since is articles in cork don't worry , don't read too much it,nothing worry bout imo which I think even most optimist fans surely got have grave concerns regards season ahead

Read Donal lenihan in examiner today, and such honesty and open calling spade a spade in regards munster rugby
He said munster rugby needs long hard look at itself
He also questions one decision by management he's words were baffling
Lenihan huge fan of flannery, micro, foley, cork man Brian Walsh but it didn't stop him highlighting a mistake they made
See its nothing personal all he's doing is judging what he saw before him

Anyone does that cork football they will be accused of having an agenda or getting carried away
One huge defeat munster yet players or ex pundits will call it as it is
Munster cultural attitude was always stand out
They may have difficulty but attitude by some is not accept where they are

thinkstoomuch1

http://gaacork.ie/news/350207/Pairc_Ui_Chaoimh_Stadium_Development_Commence_February_2015

wackokid

McDonnell is very unlikely to cut the socks off anything Cork while doing an interview for a Cork paper.

BTW..........Kissane was the quickest player on that Cork panel, and if some lad from Clare was faster in one moment in time, so be it.

thinkstoomuch1

wackokid wrote: »

McDonnell is very unlikely to cut the socks off anything Cork while doing an interview for a Cork paper.

BTW..........Kissane was the quickest player on that Cork panel, and if some lad from Clare was faster in one moment in time, so be it.

Totally agree regards Mcdonall
Imo he was hand picked play optimist card

Kisswne was good at a time but time I reference he clearly lacked pace and should not started nor should be brought on v Dublin as game changer when he in goal missed chance

Commitment passion drive hunger want desire one hundred ten lee cent

But he imo was poor one v one defender even I'm all star year imo lucky get it where cork got more defenders imo as based on that when forward should got one he had be subbed v down as was been given a tough time

Granted he'd one superb outing v kerry kicking brilliant scores I felt he's time passes cork had better after 2010

He was good footballer nothing special but will be great manager absolutely imo top class

Brilliant report match earlier

Will rochedtowm beat breadan??
Beat them last year frewn cup

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.the42.ie/cork-camogie-1894958-Jan2015/
Great read
Shows huge difference women have in fund raise trip abroad all Ireland champion
Hopefully new ladies player association help them going forward

They train hard men less reward imo

thinkstoomuch1

Didn't make game yesterday, talking few today who did though
Yoghal no surprise at all ran castletroy close I expected they would and thought they would win but didn't but my concern all year was lacked scoring power up front bar Dalton and the half back line was meant been very good but rock they perishes on was no forwards bar Dalton
Dalton scored almost everything from dead balls apparently with he's trade mark side line balls
He's brilliant at those, I saw him score one in earlier group game he's terrific at them
I'd certainly have him taking one with cork late in games if needed be despite being in goal

Dalton got nothing from play so definitely this year didn't score much from play so imo has be cork goalie won't be half forward based in harty cup performances

They led all match mostly.
After half time went five point no reply , well control and then Nash like lynch was other day difference in a goal and gave them momentum late game

Cathal deane and Kevin Murphy two under seventeen this year with another year left school next year definitely ones watch as they have had outstanding season at half back for youghal and club killeagh all year

Youghal lacked scoring forward all year from play but they had any one of gunning, o reilly, looney, Kingston any one them that score from play they would been better this year
Youghal can't be faulted they have given terrific performance as a team all year and they really punching above their weight

They will improve next year but must add two forwards but with deane and Murphy half back they will have strong half back line

I have felt since start castletroy despite being favoured to win harty, I don't think they can win it and this team is beatable and Thurles imo will beat them as Thurles while dint have great forward have better than yoghal and Butler is one for example
There hanging on in games great sign spirt and fight but shows they have struggled in games and can't see them winning it outright
A well coached but limited doon team relied too much Barry Murphy beat them, Colmans width crossbar apparently prevented a draw, beat ag point despite ag making poor side line call and they just left it later yesterday
There never beaten attitude must be hugely complimented as great have but at latter stages of competition they will need more
They are fine team up to forwards but here they are in trouble as seen by majority scores from frees once Nash is held
Nash has been good this year but by he's own high standard bit below what you would expect
He's a terrific hurler imo

One fix is Andrew La touch moving up half forward like earlier games but they loose hugely at half back then also
Young Nicholas is terrific talent but he's very young so it's unfair to expect him to be main man yet outside Nash but in time he will be

The results this week show two things
Gap changed considerably between cork limerick school last two days compared to last year while cork minors have more talent this year with much better management imo

Is there physiological advantage to limerick over cork now at minor over this week's results ?!
Imo no in hammies beaten have just one cork minor Chris o leary, ard scoil could have four

Yoghal have two,Dalton be In goal, and o brien
O brien meant have had brilliant game on Nash bar the goal
Nash corner back and Nicholas may make limerick set up but you add in experience Barry Nash lorcan Lyons and Cosgrove yet team struggle long periods, think nothing from that team from limerick view that worries me
All those three like lynch game breakers are over age and those four were pivots I'n their terms victory last two days

Yes mackey and grimes ard scoil outstanding but they face likes Kingston and possibly csshman two qualities players inter county standard they didn't face v hammies in those lads with hammies not cork minors
Peter casey will need watching yes but smith can do a man marking job no bother
Flanagan may not be involved but if he does join cork have plenty mark him

I just feel cork have better forwards and more depth this panel and ring was alway going be judged year two

Also shows difference in poor management and astute management
Yoghal fine team but ag better forwards yer couldn't beat limerick team and much more experience also but yoghal came so close despite having no scoring potency from play

Colmans young team ran them close

Good coaching got every last inch out yoghal this year they done everything they could and deserve immense credit like hsmmies and rochedtowm who prove that but poor coaching cost ag against tburles and castletroy, like it cost very very talented midelton team also

There is a few of youghal team that eligible next year

Cork minor hurling have great chance beat them twice if needs be as what harty cup has proved all teams left is good coaching is king
And cork minor hurling imo has best coaching set up this year bar even par with tippereaty than limerick
April can't come fast enough

So just one cork team left but all three other teams could won bar hsmmies who better team won with ard scoil but Thurles ag game while Thurles played better ag selection was all over shop lads out position and lost by point
Yoghal lost but firm control game
Credit castletroy they never gave up immense credit due
Normally limerick teams beaten such ways but credit due they done youghal what other limerick teams suffered in past in terms come backs

School hurling in cork this year improved
Cork cleaned up munster under sixteen all three grades bar d grade won by crescent limerick in munster school this year
Midelton got all Ireland final beaten extra time of the dean Ryan by exceptional good counsel with brilliant coach kilkenny declan wall

In the harty cup grade cork have team in semi final
Limerick have two yes but two cork teams lost by a point
In b grade spipraid naoimh or clonakilty who meet quatre final will make one semi final all cork affair as play old christian cork in semi final with Michael o hallorhan and Billy hennessehy

Chriost ri play cause way other semi so good chance cork will win b grade
Limerick teams are all out this competition

In c grade blarney and kinsale are opposite side of semi final draw and could have cork team I'n the final
What hugely significant is mtichestown a notorious football school ran borreslogh tippereary all the way to three points last week
They won munster under sixteen this year and making huge strides hurling under Anthony Nash and noel Crowley was meant be going do some work school also

Harty cup win is pinnacle cork must strive get but huge improvement at all levels this year school but one year no good must be sustainable improvements make long term gains and not one step forward ten steps back as been previously sad story cork schools
A lot done but plenty plenty more to do
The work is paying off this year but still it needs more resources and more money imo and more gdos
All work done this year, still shows how far cork hurling fell in there's still work to do

Rochedtowm imo can make the final and I'd certainly not fear the teams on other side, imo Thurles have better chance on that side but I don't see them winning it
Ard scoil imo would beat castletroy and Thurles as niall moran such astute coach he'll learned from the ist game and ronan lynch will not be forward but will be midfield or half back

Hugely disappointed youghal loose by point but not huge huge setback either in terms yoghal over achieved getting this far
Major disappointed imo has be midelton and ag who didn't fulfil potential on playing field imo over being led by poor management

I'f what I'm hearing is true that will change in midelton for the better next year I'n terms harty cup school management

Wacko brilliant report tremendous win for the rochedtowm football team and congrats to them and clonakilty great win also. Two cork teams left in it is good news for cork schools in beat two kerry schools
Cork minor football has an abundance talent but imo poor management this year will fail this group as it's miles behind what jack is doing with kerry
Kerry embracing innovation cork set imo gone too old school in its ways

Hope no injuries from yesterday
Great news is win but fact meaney got half football again today huge huge bonus to hurling fitness wise and fact he curved the kerry giant will add confidence In last week as sub made huge impact in hurling
Yes hurling sharpness different football but he's fitness I think he'll be fine and well and we'll able to for least one half against ronan lynch ard scoil
Even they got one half out meaney huge bonus and I think signs are good as time hurling now
Huge win
That power wacko agree he have given huge display v Dublin but was also brilliant v kerry as was Kevin flahive who imo gave exhibition full back play v callaghan Dublin and Spillane kerry and imo cuthbhert should Brough him training panel like jbm done with minors and given him run out v trench cup opposite Mary I and he wouldn't start this year but id given him game time
Much better play him corner back then likes o donoughge who out position and much better give him time than likes hazel etc
I said this before but cork football is actually in the next three years going to suffer like hurling from no full back coming through like when rock left unless they get ready for the future today
Cadogan and shields imo have bout two years tops imo at full back left in games so faster and cork need groom a future full back
They at least need cover
Any good manager would realise this and have flahive outstanding talent training senior team imo if he's available of course to train

Joe kavnagh joined senior panel nineteen and rock in hurling as did the great great I mean really really great now Brian cococran

The downside is if joined current set up he'd make no improvement as no coach work with
Flahive imo won't develop at senior Douglas team under tony leen as a manager kerry fans I ask don't rate him
The good news is the awesome awesome coaching of gene o driscoll and the brilliant Sean Hayes will improve him imo

Confidence dual stars have will be good for rochedtowm to take hurling but I fear as the season goes on the dualism will catch up with them sooner or later

As for annon post regards pa callaghan I agree most it in he's awesome hurler five county final points proved that and the stats from under age career than annon said shows he great talent
Yes it was just intermediate but it was more nature of the scores rather than the scores themselves in winning ball out air over wing launch sublime points
He's discipline is something he needs work on at times but shows he has real bite and cut to he's hurling unlike cork hurlers in the past

He won't play cork this year and said before by poster the time to stop asking him has passed and I agree
I don't blame pa as he's decision but jbm can't be asking or begging him again and again, he asked him many times last year and this year but declined so be fair jbm so much only he can do
I wouldn't ask him again I'll let him make first move

As for inter firm?? he plays with response engineering company that clare man tony considne is with or was as in some management role I think or director role
I'm not sure but he was involved with them in some role in the past

Same company that noel hickey, quaid two mulchay played for and few ballyhea lads also this year
They lost cork final cork guards
Pa callaghan indeed played centre back and was outstanding at centre back and then moved up chasing game to centre forward for the second half where he was marked by Ray Ryan
Pa callaghan would be brilliant centre back but no way cork need him as senior one in loads lads like Joyce,Barry, Murphy. Ellis all fine there but huge addition as ball winning half forward who can score and run, has pace , tough inside take give hits, he's great striking and elusive and, great hand, and proper coaching he'd be awesome imo as he'd be much better than current options in lawton, cian mac, kelleher, Andy Walsh, frahill o Connor put together
They can or have been cork panel for while and bar kelleher scope for improvement is imo not as much as callaghan has
And while kelleher Coul if hurling alone be very good hurler callaghan is just different class altogether to most imo bar Lehane

One year imo at senior this Lad would just go to another level, absolutely no doubt I have imo
I always believed that
He so good if he was on the panel I said in October I'd have no problem starting him v kilkenny in the league

He won't play under twenty one hurling but I wouldn't rule out just totally,unlikely but you never know in Liam Hayes may have huge bearing in he may join that set up as Hayes would be just over road from him In dromina and local man and huge respect Hayes has he may be persuaded to commit to a shorter season

If cork had pa callaghan and sorted full back I'd think have huge chance all Ireland this year as even if did not start he's hugely strengthen the cork bench and would be real real possible game changed

Very good read imo

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/2015/01/21/hurlers-showing-the-appetite-for-the-hard-yards/

I think yes he's right most team player tippereary will start in summer but I'd sincerely hope that tactical mess and playing players out of positions is not replicated any time soon

From that game imo Nash will start
O Neill
Cahalane or Joyce
Mcdonall
Murphy Ellis and lorcan

Kearney Walsh
Lehane only as a ten if not might well stay at home
Management fault playing him in full forward

Copper
Harnedy
Cardogan
Spillane could be like cadogan last year get start year one
I said cadogan last year had start even in February
I am the same opinion with Anthony Spillane in the future imo is made for this stage

The final place imo would be
Luke o farell or paudie unless horgan wakes up and actually delivers from play
So like I said last August possible two new faces three at most but crucial will be solving full back
Cahalane is front runner but Joyce showed enough the last day and actually very strong air, robust and aggressive and play standing tall than leaving forward clean him out to really be looked at this year and no way he's corner back but centre or full he's really option imo
Another man played wrong position at start and like wise at club level and deserve immense credit bouncing back as two years ago he was played as midfielder for cork when he has neither pace or guile for it but is outstanding half or possible full back
Dabbled bit boxing under age so has toughness within
Pat mulchay gave interview before where he said rated him highly. That's good enough for me
I have always been terrjfic fan this player as he's a hurler but a warrior within imo

http://www.the42.ie/darren-sweetnam-cork-munster-1894335-Jan2015/
No great surprise
It'd been know for at least year he had only interest to rugby, even not stayed I'n munster he'd went some club In England

Some loss to cork hurling yes had rough edges but he's ability to break tackle, run hard and direct in to contact and come out other side , athleticism and pace hed been brilliant
Remember watching him on junior rugby world cup and against Fiji and a black, tough physical opponent ability break tackle was very good
Where would cork play imo
Half back
If cork had him hed be unreal as jbm would develop him but landers specific type new power training he doing with cork would be ideal for him, landers all about power and pace and break the ist tackle
League will tell if it's working

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/2015/01/16/radical-rules-in-the-lord-mayors-cup/

Great idea I said before and imo hugely welcome but for something that was apparently planned in last spring imo the launch timing was the running of was incorrect and myself and any one talked to felt bit De ja vu in it didn't really hit ground running it just clashes so much else it didn't get attention it deserves imo

Concept should be kept absolutely imo with but imo need have it better time as clashes lot school games harty cup etc but that also devalues imo interest in fans points view as can't go all

Also other schools pull put out it as they did this year as when told bout it was way too late they had training structures already planned

Also idea former players is great do coaching but imo it can't be just any players, in players select few should be imo be coached to coached as cian o Neill article I posted last week said too many coached in gaa that are actually poor coaches and coaching bad habits despite being good players them selves
There would be imo two out list in article just my opinion but coaching records I wouldn't have have them coaching young cork hurling yes talent imo as I don't imo think there good coaches

Also the picking of the best team scenario imo is brilliant at the end pick best fifteen hurlers imo to play cork minor trial so it may unearth player or players I think is great and I welcome it

If unearthed just one imo then it's a success

Problem however is by time game played minor cut off panel due next week or two will be made so unlikely any lad will be thrown in and rightly so as there's going be some really really close calls this year some won't make final panel despite training since October etc so you can't just add a player plays few good games in competitions lower standard

What you can do on the contrary is however spot player you say may have scope for potential that isn't playing harty cup or b and c munster grades etc and bring him in few months training under top cork set up and you may find you have a player or two

Now imo while the idea is right and should be applauded the timing imo is wrong
Also the picking best fifteen players as best take on cork minors, some coaching there re I rate but there's few here purely coaching records imo perception of judging talent is actually imo poor in looking at record picking players on various teams who there is better available and imo leaving better players off various team panel they have been involved in before

In essence good idea, commitment and passion do this must be applauded but the actual imo rushing through launch with out proper planning and wrong timing and few coaching there with no success at coaching imo should be kept next year absolutely but it does needs to be fine tuned imo to actual be a success and not just another date in the cork hurling under age calendar year
Solutions great to cork hurling problems but only true value is if viable solution imo has reasonable chance to actually help solve the problems to begin with

Well done to all the winners of competition Saturday
Many fans didn't make finals as clashes in hub school level hurling and football activity this week
Cork senior hurling team is to be announced tonight
Im hearing if true clare will field a strong enough team for the game

thinkstoomuch1

-FINAL SAT 24TH JANUARY 22/01/2015

Cork Senior Hurlers play Clare on Saturday, 24th January 2015 at Mallow 1:00 p.m.
Waterford Crystal Cup S/F : Cork v Clare
Saturday 24th. January 2015, at Mallow 1:00 p.m.
Venue: Carrigoon, Mallow
Referee: Paul Foley (Waterford)
We'll have live updates from the game here on the website and on our Twitter page, @OfficialCorkGAA.

The Cork Senior Hurling team for Saturday’s game is:
1. Patrick Collins (Ballinhassig)
2. Conor O’Sullivan (Sarsfields)
3. Damien Cahalane (St.Finbarr’s)
4. Sean O’Donoghue (Inniscarra)

5. Brian O’Sullivan (Fermoy)
6. Lorcán McLoughlin (Kanturk)
7. Glen O’Connor (St.Finbarr’s)

8. Brian Murray (Bishopstown)
9. Andy Walsh (Killeagh)

10. Peter Kelleher (Kilmichael)
11. Cian McCarthy (Sarsfields)
12. Brian Lawton (Castlemartyr)

13. Stephen Moylan (Douglas)
14. Luke O’Farrell (Midleton)
15. Darren McCarthy (Ballymartle)

Subs:
16. Anthony Nash (Kanturk)
17. William Kearney (Sarsfields)
18. Christopher Joyce (Na Piarsaigh)
19. Mark Ellis (Millstreet)
20. Daniel Kearney (Sarsfields)
21. Dayne Lee (Na Piarsaigh)
22. Patrick Cronin (Bishopstown)
23. Alan Frahill-O’Connor (Youghal)
24. Seamus Harnedy (St.Ita’s)
25. Patrick Horgan (Glen Rovers)
26. Paudie O’Sullivan (Cloyne)

Stephen McDonnell, Luke Meade and Paul Haughney are recovering from injury and were not considered. The CIT and UCC players are unavailable for Cork selection as they are tied with their respective academies in this competition.
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Weak enough team imo particularly at half forward and midfield
Cork won't beat clare with that team, Ellis, Kearney,sullivan, horgan cronin particular Harnedy have been used win

Midfield very weak and he forward line kelleher is pick but we have two lads flanking him, one who hasn't mobility and lawton hasn't cut for senior hurling so huge ask imo put kelleher in likely be strong clare unit
Imo like asking plane land one engine despite turbulence ahead
In one man half forward line won't beat clare with sweeper

I get feeling this is last audition time for some and cork play ballyhale Sunday in Waterford it at 2

I'm not too bothered rest team in good Cahalane getting full back time credit jbm
That half back line and half forward lime won't start championships but worry is lawton and cian be on the panel when cork need depth next year

Smith614

Ah Jez JBM should have had a stronger team for this match. It would have been a good workout but that cork team isn't up to much. Half forward line won't have Clare worried in any way.

thinkstoomuch1

Smith614 wrote: »

Ah Jez JBM should have had a stronger team for this match. It would have been a good workout but that cork team isn't up to much. Half forward line won't have Clare worried in any way.

I'd agree that team will need changes fast to win
What you make kelleher is he worth league spot??
Would you think Murray up to it?

letowski

I think its good yere looking at alot of players though, its only the Waterford Crystal. There is definetly talent there. Do ye have another game this weekend for the rest of the panel?

Clare will probably play split their panel in two again this weekend and play another challenge game soon after, so they might not be that strong either. I think it will be a competitive game, worth heading to Mallow to see fringe players anyway.

Orizio

letowski wrote: »

I think its good yere looking at alot of players though, its only the Waterford Crystal. There is definetly talent there. Do ye have another game this weekend for the rest of the panel?

Clare will probably play split their panel in two again this weekend and play another challenge game soon after, so they might not be that strong either. I think it will be a competitive game, worth heading to Mallow to see fringe players anyway.

Playing Ballyhale on Sunday.

willietherock

Is Cathal Cormac injured /college tied? Was named as panel addition a few week ago but is seeing no game time. Is Eoghan Finn good enough? Seems to be scoring well for UCC at the moment.

thinkstoomuch1

letowski wrote: »

I think its good yere looking at alot of players though, its only the Waterford Crystal. There is definetly talent there. Do ye have another game this weekend for the rest of the panel?

Clare will probably play split their panel in two again this weekend and play another challenge game soon after, so they might not be that strong either. I think it will be a competitive game, worth heading to Mallow to see fringe players anyway.

Ballyhale Sunday 2 in Waterford

They played a bruzing encounter last Sunday with wit, bonnar link would got that game
Majority big stars played and talk is they will play strong team v cork as they are treating Galway side gort like real banana skin leaving nothing to chance
I expect cork have very strong team for that with like Ellis Kearney Walsh who's injury isn't as bad could been, horgan, paudie, cronin Harnedy are apparently line to play

It remain be seen will Lehane o she's, cadogan Murphy and Spillane be released by ucc

Wexford then next Saturday 31 st in cit

So three games left before the league but be great have four
Credit due opponent picked in challenge matches been good choices
Just imo watch football opponent cork pick imo it's going to be some poor poor opponent now

thinkstoomuch1

willietherock wrote: »

Is Cathal Cormac injured /college tied? Was named as panel addition a few week ago but is seeing no game time. Is Eoghan Finn good enough? Seems to be scoring well for UCC at the moment.

Few names has not game time like Stephen Murphy
Cormack
Daire lordan

Imo they should be getting game time as others are getting chance after chance and clearly not up to the next level

Finn he's good club player but imo no

Cork need more ball winners at half forward john cronin should be

Finn imo is fast skilful hurler cork have plenty those

I'm surprised be honest eoghan kinery didn't get call up like other threw minor last year
He is young strong athleticism and played senior last year killeagh
He's a Lad play midfield or half forward and imo much better potential club man Andy Walsh
Landers having coached him is aware he's talent as he had him cork minor and killeagh under twenty one

thinkstoomuch1

Last Friday mtichestown cbs lost munster c under 18.5 munster quatre final to Joseph borrsleigh tippereary 1-12 to 2-6
I wasn't at it but talk Is mtichestown pushed them all the way

St Joseph are hurling school and clubs strong like toomerva, borreslogh, templederry make up their team where mtichestown football strong hold are making waves with mtichestown relying on in ballygiblin, glanworth, skeenarimky etc

Mtichestown team was

Ian Butler killdorrey keeper in munster under sixteen winning c team at under sixteen half and has two years left senior
John Fitzgerald killdorrey
John o donoughge ballygiblin
James meaney glanworth
Eoin o mahony glenroe
Jamie o gorman killdorrey
Caelach hennessehy skeenarimky
John Ryan skeenarimky
Colin English fr sheehys
John landers glanworth
Dean Barry ballygiblin
James mullins ballygiblin
Adrian English skeenarimky captain munster winning under sixteen team November
John sullivan glanworth
Michael maher skeenarimky

Subs

James keating killdorrey centre back munster under sixteen b winning team

Jack coughlan glanworth half back munster under sixteen winning c team last November

George pendle ballygiblin real prospect outstanding in munster under sixteen c win apparently goal as sub last day got 1-5 under sixteen final
He's footballer too was cork development squad
Michael lewis ballygiblin

Great see likes football schools making break through in hurling and likes Anthony Nash isn't just doing cork hurling huge huge service on the field of play but doing trojian work with various school teams in mtichestown cbs currently and helping develop the next generation hurling talented and while most may not play for cork, it will help avondu who haven't won senior since 96 or around and if even produced one hurler cork team at most grades been tremendous achievement

Great see school like mtichestown this grade make break through, rochedtowm in harty make break through and hammies like wise also who were normally football schools but good see them do well at hurling

Be great if it was vice versa also hurling school made progress football
Imo depends numbers in if numbers are big enough it may be possible to do both codes, as dualism being successful I's imo a very very tall ask unless you have huge depth as trying to do both with the same core group of players imo is very tough ask now in modern game where most school they have ex inter county players or current players coaching so standards school gaa imo has risen last few years across most grades
Mtichestown will be in munster b grade under sixteen and Half next year and difficulty imo they may have is they have few of any this year team eligible and the b grade is tough enough

The under eighteen c team with few last year winning under sixteen c munster team should be strong though imo once Nash still coaches them but he should be there hopefully

denishurley

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Few names has not game time like Stephen Murphy
Cormack
Daire lordan

Imo they should be getting game time as others are getting chance after chance and clearly not up to the next level

Murphy and Lordan both playing for CIT so couldn't line out for Cork, not sure what story is with Cormack