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celt262

Tom Joad wrote: »

Farrelly is a better option than Gilly but his kick-outs can be inconsistent too. It's a pity that the Raymond Galligan experiment didn't get more time during the McKenna Cup but it's still an option worth pursuing when he's back.

Is Galligan injured ?

Tom Joad

Farrelly is a better option than Gilly but his kick-outs can be inconsistent too. It's a pity that the Raymond Galligan experiment didn't get more time during the McKenna Cup but it's still an option worth pursuing when he's back.

celt262

cavan4sam wrote: »

BBC NI are showing the game on saturday night , i think its available on the red button according to live gaelic , Good to see as weather conditions are not on my side this time of year for travelling the long trip
what happened to farrellys or galligans chance in goals ? surely he has to be better than gilly ?

I'd say farrelly will be the No 1 goalkeeper this year. Gilly has made so many mistakes its not even funny anymore.

cavan4sam

BBC NI are showing the game on saturday night , i think its available on the red button according to live gaelic , Good to see as weather conditions are not on my side this time of year for travelling the long trip
what happened to farrellys or galligans chance in goals ? surely he has to be better than gilly ?

Tom Joad

Blue in hope wrote: »

There was some good performances last night Killian Clarke was MOTM Rory Dunne was solid Fergal Flanagan did well after a slow opening where he was caught out a few times the same with Conor Moynagh. I felt that when Micheal Lyng came on he was excellent .Out team play improved alot of ball went through him. He scored the best point of the night and his ball through to Martin Dunne for what was a stonewall penalty that wasn't given was great.

My main concern was that we were to slow moving the ball forward and let Fermanagh get numbers back the whole time. We carried the ball far to often into the middle of three /four Fermanagh men and the ball was turned over. While Gilly will get plenty of flack for the goal it should be remembered that we played the ball back to him because we were to slow to move it forward and were forced back.

I have to mention the ref who was very poor last night for both sides I might add. There were blatant fouls that he let go the Dunne penalty and Quigley been pulled down on the 21m line in front of the goals in the first half. I can understand player frustration on what was been allowed as a fair tackle one minute was been blown up the next. The refs used in the McKenna cup are meant to be the up and coming ones. God help us all!!

Good post and would agree with most of it. Apart from Gilly - he is a liability at this stage - not a game goes by where he doesn't have a brain fart of some sort. Refereeing was awful and very inconsistent.

Lyng made a difference when he came on and I would share your concerns about the way we moved the ball - way too slow and with no real purpose in the first half. I sound like a Conor Moynagh fanboy

but when he started moving forward with the ball with had a lot more purpose - Lyng (apart from the first ball he played) started a lot of good things.

Tom Joad

Blue in hope- Just edited your last post to make it clearer what the quoted text is - to quote a post just use the quote button on the bottom right hand side.

Blue in hope

Never been as cold watching a game - it was baltic in Breffni tonight.

A win is a win alright but we seriously need to sort out our goalkeeper issue. Another game were a complete brain fart from gilly nearly cost us the game. His kickouts were poor too. Still we kept plugging away and worked a good goal after their keeper had his own gilly moment.

Some good performances in blue, Killian Clarke was Motm but for me Ryan McCluskey was the stand out player - controlled the game and as honest as the day is long in the work he gets through. For Cavan, Rory Dunne had a good game on Quigley - disrupted a lot of the ball in, Fergal Flanagan got through a trojan amount of work. Conor Moynagh nailed down the centre back spot with another solid show. Niall McDermott was a constant threat and never wasted a ball. Tom Hayes was lively but was living off scraps.

In the first half we were very disjointed and the ball was way too slow and lots of aimless cross field passing whereas Fermanagh moved the ball through the hands quickly and with purpose. Second half we were much better at overlaps and moving the ball better.

Good to have an extra game Saturday night.

There was some good performances last night Killian Clarke was MOTM Rory Dunne was solid Fergal Flanagan did well after a slow opening where he was caught out a few times the same with Conor Moynagh. I felt that when Micheal Lyng came on he was excellent .Out team play improved alot of ball went through him. He scored the best point of the night and his ball through to Martin Dunne for what was a stonewall penalty that wasn't given was great.

My main concern was that we were to slow moving the ball forward and let Fermanagh get numbers back the whole time. We carried the ball far to often into the middle of three /four Fermanagh men and the ball was turned over. While Gilly will get plenty of flack for the goal it should be remembered that we played the ball back to him because we were to slow to move it forward and were forced back.

I have to mention the ref who was very poor last night for both sides I might add. There were blatant fouls that he let go the Dunne penalty and Quigley been pulled down on the 21m line in front of the goals in the first half. I can understand player frustration on what was been allowed as a fair tackle one minute was been blown up the next. The refs used in the McKenna cup are meant to be the up and coming ones. God help us all!!

Tom Joad

celt262 wrote: »

I will have to disagree with you about the game Saturday night its one that could be done without in my opinion. The weekend could have been better used preparing for the Roscommon games.

Also where is James McEnroe for me he is Cavan's No 1 Centre back as Moynagh has only played one game of Senior football there.

So anyone know of the availability of these also.

Mackey
Argue

What better preparation can you get that playing a team of Tyrone's calibre. If nothing else it will be a chance to try out different options in goal!! I don't expect us to beat Tyrone based on last nights performance or indeed the one against Monaghan but it's nice to get to the final. Does Tyrone no harm every year to aim to win the McKenna Cup.

If we had lost last night the team and Hyland would have been slaughtered for losing to Fermanagh!!

Not sure where James McEnroe is at the moment-wasn't named lastor against Monaghan (is he with one of the colleges??). He has played a few times at centre back but that was only when Alan Clarke wasn't playing.

In my mind Moynagh is a natural centre back and led the under 21s from that position - last night when he started moving forward with the ball things started happening for Cavan - he gave two lovely intelligent kick passes that Mackey would have been proud of that led to scores for Cavan. It was refreshing to see after a lot of the ponderous cross field passing we had been doing to little effect up to that point.

Assuming that McEnroe will be around for the league, I would have him in the half back line with Fergal Flanagan on the other side and Moynagh in the middle.

It was interesting last night that Ryan McCluskey gave a masterclass of how to play centre back and shows how important that position is in the modern game. Particularly so as we are crying out for a playmaker in Cavan to get the right ball into the forwards. Only Niall McDermott could make the ball stick for Cavan last night and made a lot with very poor service.

Mackey is injured afaik - had heard he was close to coming back but not really sure. Argue is with his college so should be back for the league - another good option to have and one of the few big men we have. Really stood out last night and against Monaghan that the options on the bench were all more of the same - light forwards to replace light forwards.

Anyway it is only January!!

celt262

Tom Joad wrote: »

Never been as cold watching a game - it was baltic in Breffni tonight.

A win is a win alright but we seriously need to sort out our goalkeeper issue. Another game were a complete brain fart from gilly nearly cost us the game. His kickouts were poor too. Still we kept plugging away and worked a good goal after their keeper had his own gilly moment.

Some good performances in blue, Killian Clarke was Motm but for me Ryan McCluskey was the stand out player - controlled the game and as honest as the day is long in the work he gets through. For Cavan, Rory Dunne had a good game on Quigley - disrupted a lot of the ball in, Fergal Flanagan got through a trojan amount of work. Conor Moynagh nailed down the centre back spot with another solid show. Niall McDermott was a constant threat and never wasted a ball. Tom Hayes was lively but was living off scraps.

In the first half we were very disjointed and the ball was way too slow and lots of aimless cross field passing whereas Fermanagh moved the ball through the hands quickly and with purpose. Second half we were much better at overlaps and moving the ball better.

Good to have an extra game Saturday night.

I will have to disagree with you about the game Saturday night its one that could be done without in my opinion. The weekend could have been better used preparing for the Roscommon games.

Also where is James McEnroe for me he is Cavan's No 1 Centre back as Moynagh has only played one game of Senior football there.

So anyone know of the availability of these also.

Mackey
Argue

tanko

I can't remember the last time Cavan beat Tyrone in a competitive senior game. Was it this century?

tayto lover

Tom Joad wrote: »

This Saturday Athletic Grounds - think 7:30 - hard to heard the time on the tannoy.

Those details are correct.

Tom Joad

tanko wrote: »

Has a time and venue for the final been decided?

This Saturday Athletic Grounds - think 7:30 - hard to heard the time on the tannoy.

tanko

Has a time and venue for the final been decided?

Tom Joad

Never been as cold watching a game - it was baltic in Breffni tonight.

A win is a win alright but we seriously need to sort out our goalkeeper issue. Another game were a complete brain fart from gilly nearly cost us the game. His kickouts were poor too. Still we kept plugging away and worked a good goal after their keeper had his own gilly moment.

Some good performances in blue, Killian Clarke was Motm but for me Ryan McCluskey was the stand out player - controlled the game and as honest as the day is long in the work he gets through. For Cavan, Rory Dunne had a good game on Quigley - disrupted a lot of the ball in, Fergal Flanagan got through a trojan amount of work. Conor Moynagh nailed down the centre back spot with another solid show. Niall McDermott was a constant threat and never wasted a ball. Tom Hayes was lively but was living off scraps.

In the first half we were very disjointed and the ball was way too slow and lots of aimless cross field passing whereas Fermanagh moved the ball through the hands quickly and with purpose. Second half we were much better at overlaps and moving the ball better.

Good to have an extra game Saturday night.

cavan4sam

Listening to the game tonight it seemed we made hard work of it but a win is a win
Tyrone probably too strong but a win would be great to get a bit of confidence going into what will be a tough league campaign

munchkin_utd

Always_Running wrote: »

This might interest the Cavan supporters living in New York
http://www.gaanewyork.com/news/350334/Bringing_Breffni_to_the_Bronx

Could be an excuse too for some irish based supporters to take a spin to New York!

Always_Running

This might interest the Cavan supporters living in New York
http://www.gaanewyork.com/news/350334/Bringing_Breffni_to_the_Bronx

celt262

Tom Joad wrote: »

Know very little about the lad and have only seen him play club football once. Hopefully he learns a lesson from this incident. Sad thing is that Jap and the Wylies are some of the nicest guys you could meet either on or off a football field.

Yep, we need a win tonight so he is available for the trip to Khartoum.

Only applies to McKenna cup so he will be ok for first league game.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/cavan-star-banned-after-sectarian-comments-30924526.html

Tom Joad

celt262 wrote: »

He has that side to him to do unsavoury things at spur of moment he has done some things at club level which wouldn't be very nice either.

Anyway hopefully we can get the win tonight as I wouldn't like to be going into the Roscommon game without him.

Know very little about the lad and have only seen him play club football once. Hopefully he learns a lesson from this incident. Sad thing is that Jap and the Wylies are some of the nicest guys you could meet either on or off a football field.

Yep, we need a win tonight so he is available for the trip to Khartoum.

celt262

Tom Joad wrote: »

Absolutely no place for stuff like that in the game - very dissapointed in Gearoid McKiernan but good to see it was dealt with swiftly by the Ulster Council.

He has that side to him to do unsavoury things at spur of moment he has done some things at club level which wouldn't be very nice either.

Anyway hopefully we can get the win tonight as I wouldn't like to be going into the Roscommon game without him.

Tom Joad

Absolutely no place for stuff like that in the game - very dissapointed in Gearoid McKiernan but good to see it was dealt with swiftly by the Ulster Council.

munchkin_utd

willabur wrote: »

Heard this morning he is getting a 2 match ban

yup.

McKiernan facing two-game ban for 'abusive comments'

Cavan midfielder Gearoid McKiernan is expected to be officially informed today of a proposed two-match ban for allegedly making comments of an abusive nature during Sunday's McKenna Cup match against Monaghan.

Ulster's Competitions Controls Committee met last night to discuss referee Sean Hurson's report in which it is believed the alleged comments made to the Monaghan player were referenced.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mckiernan-facing-twogame-ban-for-abusive-comments-30924728.html

willabur

Heard this morning he is getting a 2 match ban

J Cheever Loophole

Blue in hope wrote: »

#3164
another website claimed that he was meant to have said something to wylie. The one thing that surprise me was the reaction of Jap Finlay he was very incensed whatever happened, he wouldn't be one for striking like he did- picture on sportsfile site clearly shows it.

The Irish News this morning are reporting an allegation of sectarian abuse being investigated by the Ulster Council following an incident in the Monaghan v Cavan McKenna Cup match.

Tom Joad

tayto lover wrote: »

Why? Is it not good enough for the elite of Boards?

The amount of crap posted on the Cavan forum is unbelievable and the place is overrun with trolls who revel in outdoing each other to see what ridiculous stories they can fabricate. They obviously don't give a damn about Cavan football or the players. The place goes into overdrive anything some negative happens or Cavan lose.

I've no idea what you are trying to get at with the elite of boards bit??

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tayto lover wrote: »

Why? Is it not good enough for the elite of Boards?

It's full of people with serious agendas against Hyland and the county board, the trolls are allowed to write what they want. There are several posters who post nothing but blatant lies consistently to stir up trouble and are allowed to do so. Frequently reasoned sensible posts I have submitted don't get published. Nothing to do with being elite it's just a very poorly moderated forum.

Gallant_JJ

Would you believe everything you read anywhere?

tayto lover

Tom Joad wrote: »

Wylie took Martin Reilly out of it, Melee ensued Jap struck someone - Gearoid threw a slap. Wylie and Finlay walked - Referee played on until Umpire's called his attention to what Gearoid had done - he walked. No way Umpire's could have heard anything said in the melee - no more than anyone in the crowd could.

I wouldn't believe everything you read on HoganStand lads :rolleyes:

Why? Is it not good enough for the elite of Boards?

Blue in hope

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Wylie took Martin Reilly out of it, Melee ensued Jap struck someone - Gearoid threw a slap. Wylie and Finlay walked - Referee played on until Umpire's called his attention to what Gearoid had done - he walked. No way Umpire's could have heard anything said in the melee - no more than anyone in the crowd could.

I wouldn't believe everything you read on HoganStand lads

They may be right this time according to today's Irish independent.

' The Ulster Council will meet tonight to consider the report of referee Sean Hurson following Sunday's ill-tempered McKenna Cup club clash between Cavan and Monaghan in Breffni Park.

The Irish Independent is reporting that provincial disciplinary chiefs are expected to open an investigation into an alleged verbal altercation that is understood to have taken place.'

Tom Joad

cavan4sam wrote: »

I'm assuming he'll appeal it so if he's done nothing wrong ? It would be a shame if he missed some of the league

He did though he threw a slap and was the third man in so ref was dead right