Bambi wrote: » It's abundantly clear that leo has no interest in his portfolio, Enda put him there to shaft him and he's going to just serve out his time until he can move up.
jank wrote: » Couples have a right to do each other like mammals in public... news to me!
jobbridge4life wrote: » How is that even remotely clear?
jank wrote: » Which is my point. There is a limit on what couples can do in public. Sex in public is obviously not on (You agree?), oral sex the same. For hands down the pants, well most/everyone would consider this inappropriate in a public setting and many would categorise groping as heavy petting. In fact if a man was touching himself in the presence of children he would be up for sexual assault. If they were just mauling the face of each other, well it would depend in the context. If they were doing in a playground or if adults were doing it outside a school I don't think it would be appropriate and if you consider me a 'prude' for saying that well so be it. And I say this as someone who has been to more Gay bars and clubs over the past year than you have probably been in in your life. Tbh, if grown adults are mauling the face of each other in public it shows more about them than people who disapprove. Do they think they are 14 again? I have walked up and down Kings Cross, Oxford St and King St here in Sydney at all hours of the day and night and have never seen a straight or gay couple mauling the face of each other, so all these hypothetical barbs while fun is nothing more than an effort to poke fun and bully someone into a corner while backslapping ensues. Its like being back in the school playground.
jank wrote: » And I say this as someone who has been to more Gay bars and clubs over the past year than you have probably been in in your life.
K4t wrote: » I don't agree. I don't condone it but I would never criminalise it. As you mention yourself of your time in Australia, most people don't engage in that kind of behaviour anyway. Again, I wouldn't condone it, but as long as he never touches the children then it should not be criminalised.
mikom wrote: » I have "Some of my best friends are gay" ringing in my ears..
jank wrote: » How said anything about criminalising a shift? Remember the big controversy regarding Niel Prendeville.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326525/DJ-Neil-Prendeville-exposed-flight-breaks-morning-show.html Touching yourself in public is a no-no and if kids are in the area, well best get a good lawyer as you will need it.
Zubeneschamali wrote: » Eh, people are mammals, so...
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Tell that to the hundreds of teenagers i see around town with their hands down the front of their tracksuits every day.
jank wrote: » You see HUNDREDS of teenagers in town mastrubating each other...EVERY DAY. Dude, best not tell us that, the Guards will be ringing your door and looking through your computer.
jank wrote: » How said anything about criminalising a shift? Remember the big controversy regarding Niel Prendeville.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326525/DJ-Neil-Prendeville-exposed-flight-breaks-morning-show.htmlTouching yourself in public is a no-no and if kids are in the area, well best get a good lawyer as you will need it.
jank wrote: » If they were doing in a playground or if adults were doing it outside a school I don't think it would be appropriate
jank wrote: » Its like being back in the school playground.
jank wrote: » Ah, more playground antics. Great.
mikom wrote: » Bit obsessed with playgrounds there.......
floggg wrote: » What are you arguing against here? I never said it was "appropriate" or tasteful to do so, but the fact remains that people do have the right to kiss passionately In public, and neither you nor Mrs Byrne have a right to stop them.
floggg wrote: » And I hope I don't need to explain the difference between sex acts (illegal in public) and kissing (not illegal in public) to you.
jank wrote: » Touching yourself in public is a no-no and if kids are in the area, well best get a good lawyer as you will need it.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Did i say that?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Now if you meant masturbating then maybe you need to be a little clearer because what you claim is illegal actually isn't.
jank wrote: » Eh, yes. Why are their hands down their tracksuits, fishing for dole money? Playing poker?
jank wrote: » Eh, yes.Why are their hands down their tracksuits, fishing for dole money? Playing poker? I think you will find that it actually is, by all means go ahead and pull down your pants on O'Connel street during the day and pull one out with everyone looking. When the Guards show up, you can then say its your civil right to have a **** in public. That will teach 'em.
K4t wrote: » It should not be a criminal offence is what I'm saying. Neither should having sex in public be. If nobody else is physically harmed then it should not be a crime just because people are offended. A man touching himself or masturbating near a group of children should be arrested and given psychiatric treatment, not convicted of a crime.
jank wrote: » How said anything about criminalising a shift?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Again I never said they were masturbating i said they have their hands down the front of their tracksuits.
jank wrote: » Well that is a discussion for another day but in this thread we are dealing with the here and now and the actual law as of today, not hypotheticals when your argument has been turned negative.
jank wrote: » So, again... why were their hands down the front of their tracksuits? Keeping them warm from the cold I suppose? You are being deliberately obtuse and or incredibly naive. Or making it up as you go along, since you do see hundreds of teenagers performing sexual acts on themselves every day now... I can smell the manure from here.
K-9 wrote: » Nobody, but you seem to have a problem with it in public though.
jobbridge4life wrote: » Are you serious? You've never seen young lads with their hands down their tracksuits? You must be very rarely in Dublin CC.
jank wrote: » We don't get tracksuit kitted lads around these parts. Sorry to disappoint.
jank wrote: » Again, who said anything about stopping them? I didn't and I don't this MrsBryrne did either, unless you can show me a post that explicitly stated that some law should be passed to stop kissing in public from happening. All you are doing is projecting an argument that no one is making. You and her actually agree that it is not appropriate so you are splitting stones. Playground stuff as I said. Well, my post did go through a list of what is illegal and what is not, but thanks anyway for the heads up.