TerrorFirmer wrote: » I'm late to the thread but what an earth has teenagers groping each other in public have to do with Leo Varadkar coming out as gay?
Dog of Tears wrote: » Might be a significant moment for you, but most of us don't really care about someone else's sexuality. A lot of self-centred people can fall into the trap of thinking that what is a momentous event for them is somehow also momentous for others.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » Dont read the thread if you dont like it. Simples.
Jester252 wrote: » Comments like "who care", while well meaning, actually hurt a bit. They trivialise a significant life moment for homosexual people. Coming out should be celebrated not ignored.
mrsbyrne wrote: » I appreciate that for many "coming out" is a huge thing. Especially for teenagers. I imagine its like letting a genie out of a bottle that just cant be put back in. But in 2015 its a tiny tiny little bit like getting engaged, or announcing at work that your pregnant. The general reaction is "Oh well ..good for you..do you know where the key to the filing cabinet is?". Folk wish you well but it doesn't impact on them in any way so its just not important to them. Your all het up about your big announcement and theres almost an anti-climax when Mary in accounts doesn’t faint clean away on the floor and Paddy in post doesn’t burst into tears. In my opinion we in Ireland are in various stages of readjustment regarding social issues like this. General “society” for want of a better word has adjusted like 95% to totally accepting homosexuality. I think there are far, far more problems with racism for example, then homophobia. With racism and xenophobia we might as well be in 1950s Alabama. However it does seem that the Gay Community are as a result have to now stop expecting people to be shocked or uncomfortable and try to stop looking for homophobia and maybe some need to get a sense of humour? Nobodies saying that the suffering of the past didn’t happen. It did. Its just , maybe, like the Troubles in N Ireland it might be time to start moving forward abit. I think what made this announcement newsworthy was not the fact that Varadker is gay, but that he was comfortable enough to drop it casually into the conversation on what used to be Radio Eireann. Changed times indeed.
there are too many gays in india. i love beating these fvckers they are a curse to society and human race. people who encourage these type of acts should be killed, good riddance to bad rubbish. Europeans are evil to the world they have encourage all these evil doings to the world.
Good that he openly admitted , but sad that he has disgraced himself by this !
Shrap wrote: » I can imagine that having to actually discuss your sexuality and make it other people's business is a big deal for anyone.
Dan_Solo wrote: » He doesn't have to. Nobody does.
jank wrote: » This is tosh. Leo may be some things, but an intellectual lightweight and populists he ain't. He has ejected a realism into the health portfolio that has been lacking or the past 20 years. He has not come out with grand plans, quick cures to systematic and chronic failures in the Irish health system that some would love to sell. In fact his no nonsense, ultra pragmatic, the 'lets get the trains running on time' mantra to his brief actually shows up most of the other ministers and the Irish civil service and politics for what it is. That is why he enjoys who much support across so many demographics.
eviltwin wrote: » That's the reaction most gay people want but all too often it's not the reaction they get. I've had someone sympathise over the fact I have a gay child. Sympathy!! And this is not some old codger, it's a person in their early 40s. My daughter won't admit to being gay until she's left school because homophobic bullying is such a problem. There are still bad reactions to coming out. Things are a lot better compared to what it used to be but it's still a big deal. rR
Flem31 wrote: » In my earlier post, I said as long as the politician did nothing illegal, people wouldn't have had an issue with bunga bunga parties. And the influence bit, if it didn't happen at a bunga bunga party, it would happen somewhere else such as a dinner or a meeting. I like the way you need to use US politicians to illustrate your point. If any of the US politicans had cut taxes in their state or brought a new employer in with thousands of jobs, they would have been re elected. I am not saying it's right, just acknowledging reality. People are more concerned with decisions that affect their own pocket far more than what a politican does at night(as long as it's not illegal). Moral outrage over a politician usually disappears when he\she does something to benefit the community.
jobbridge4life wrote: » Well he sort of did have to since according to reports he was being hounded, and as he said himself there are political matters at present that required full disclosure to avoid any inference of impropriety.
Shrap wrote: » Actually just listening to the interview now, and Leo mentioned a number of times that it was a little bit embarrassing to have to bring it up with people (Enda, for example). He is clearly a very private person - I can imagine that having to actually discuss your sexuality and make it other people's business is a big deal for anyone. A very significant thing to do - fair play to him.
Dan_Solo wrote: » No actually, there aren't. His orientation has no bearing at all on his opinion on the upcoming referendum or anything else for that matter. Why would it?
Grayson wrote: » Imagine how embarrassing it'd be if Enda said "I've always loved you"
Er Enda, you're not my type. Now Gerry Adams, there's a man with an attractive beard.
Shrap wrote: » Of course not, but it wouldn't stop people from banging on about the "sinister gay agenda" working on policies behind the scenes - the first thing out of their mouths if he came out after the referendum would be how the referendum was invalid as an elected public representative had "lied" about his sexuality in order to influence legislation. Well, I wouldn't put it past them anyway.
Dan_Solo wrote: » Who's "them"? I don't know anybody or of anybody who would have voted differently in the upcoming referendum if Varadkar hadn't come out. It's a non-issue to those voting yes, and it makes no difference at all to those voting no.
Grayson wrote: » Er Enda, you're not my type. Now Gerry Adams, there's a man with an attractive beard.
Grayson wrote: » Imagine how embarrassing it'd be if Enda said "I've always loved you" Er Enda, you're not my type. Now Gerry Adams, there's a man with an attractive beard.
Shrap wrote: » No, but they could well make out that it had, or was going to - this campaign of "theirs" is going to get dirty - better that nobody in govt. is put on the back foot by being outed against their will. "They" being the likes of Iona.
bigdaddy2010 wrote: » Personally wasn't really shocked. His announcement was all about timing. The HSE crisis hasnt improved under his guidance and he is trying to deflect from it. I'd have more respect for him if he improved the HSE. Get on with what we pay you for Leo!
diomed wrote: » Varadkar ... Aarkvark
bigdaddy2010 wrote: » His announcement was all about timing. The HSE crisis hasnt improved under his guidance and he is trying to deflect from it. I'd have more respect for him if he improved the HSE. Get on with what we pay you for Leo!
Areyouwell wrote: » I agree, nothing like coming out of the closet to deflect attention. Especially when you're ballsing up HSE management like your predecessors.
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