Laois_Man wrote: » But I doubt I know anyone who’d actually discriminate against someone because he’s a red head.
mynamejeff wrote: » leo seems to be one of the very very very few "good" politicians we have in this country I dont see that he had the need to make any statement about his sexuality though, as long as he is competent i reckon the vast majority of people dont give a damn where he puts his pee pee in his off hours. im sad to say i have lost a little bit of respect for him. the only reason i can fathom for a big public announcement like that is to garner publicity and boost FG in the polls a little .
jocmilt wrote: » Another thing he's blown is he re-election. At 12-15% of Dublin West Fine Gael can't afford to lose even a couple of thousand votes. This will lose him over half of them and those will got to the Socialists of various hues. Maybe he can get one of those unelected jobs in Europe?
_Kaiser_ wrote: » The idea there would to be try and prevent one party from dominating (as FF have done since pretty much the foundation of the State). There's nothing wrong with fresh ideas every few years.. unfortunately this time round we got FF-lite rather than the real reform and change we were promised. Probably also explains why FG never get 2 consecutive terms in government as all they seem to do in Irish politics is screw things up so badly that they make FF viable again! :rolleyes: I do think the PR electoral system needs to go though too.
floggg wrote: » But it seems that there are a number of people who genuinely seem put out by the whole affair.
shruikan2553 wrote: » Man comes out as gay and people say who cares. Man wants to marry another man or have a child and all of a sudden his sexuality becomes important.
Baggy Trousers wrote: » Very snide. You haven't a clue. He'll top the poll.
efb wrote: » WOULD YOU HAVE A ISSUE WITH GAY MEN KISSING IN FRONT OF YOUR ELDERLY AUNT?
cloudatlas wrote: » Politicians give all kinds of details for their political support for a particular topic it makes their case stronger. An M.P. said she was pro fox hunting as she grew up on a farm and the foxes decimated the hen population. She saw her father stress over the loss of earnings. (Now I may not agree with her stance but I can't deny her personal experience). Nobody said she should just keep it to herself nobody cares, on the contrary it was a point of discussion. All these comments that say keep silent demonstrate a few things: Lack of empathy, lack of knowledge about the level of prejudice and homophobia that is still out there, a failure to grasp the context of Leo's coming out and perhaps a touch of prejudice, otherwise why tell someone to keep quiet? 'Shut up about it' and 'I don't care' are two different statements. 'I don't care' I can understand fair enough but the 'shut up about it' is tinged with prejudice.
Dan_Solo wrote: » It's an observation and prediction. You saying he'll top the poll is also a prediction. Therefore you are also very snide. How dare you.
mrsbyrne wrote: » First of all why are you shouting at me? I'm not deaf! Gay, straight makes no difference to me. Holding hands, cuddling is fine. Open mouth kissing and fondling in a public place during daylight hours is completely unacceptable. In adult only environments, in particular nightclubs, discos, pubs, clubs etc.people can act within the rules of the establishment itself. I don't care one way or the other. Once again, gay, straight, doesn't matter to me. If I or anybody else is uncomfortable with that then that's my problem and I'm free to leave. If I'm standing at a bus stop with a child or children , and couples of any sexual orientation are heavy petting outside a pub, or in a café with my mother in the middle of the day and the couple at the next table are groping each other in full view, I'm going to call them on it, no problem. If you think im going to excuse you your inappropriate behaviour just because your gay , you've another think coming.
mrsbyrne wrote: » One great girl gave my daughter and all her pals a demo. These girls these days are no shrinking violets.
Baggy Trousers wrote: » The snide bit was "Another thing he's blown is he re-election." which was a reference to mrsbyrne's oral sex "tangent". Look for the context before you butt in.
Rubberchikken wrote: » How can this be news? His private life is no concern of mine so i'd be curious why he feels the need to talk about his sexual orientation.
efb wrote: » He came out as GAY not god
Dan_Solo wrote: » Nope, haven't seen one person put out by it actually. Put out by its irrelevance, which is nothing to do with homophobia.
Thespoofer wrote: » I hear you're gay now Father...
floggg wrote: » I wonder would people care about the private life of a straight politican so much...http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/creighton-ties-the-knot-in-lowkey-ceremony-26728666.htmlhttp://m.independent.ie/irish-news/baby-on-the-way-for-lucinda-creighton-and-husband-paul-bradford-29760951.html
floggg wrote: » So even if the ruling party have the best ideas and policies, we should still put in another less capable crowd just because?
mrsbyrne wrote: » No. I have every bit as much right as anyone else to enjoy the streets. Are you happy for a preteen to be exposed to couples engaging in foreplay right in front of them.? There's a time and a place. There's acting appropriately. There's common decency.Get a room.
mrsbyrne wrote: » You know perfectly well that "wearing" the face off one another is more then a peck on the cheek and a hug. I or small children with me don't want to he exposed to couples groping each other and slobbering over one another's faces. It's pathetic and stomach churning.its completely unnecessary and no, you do not have the right to shove your lust for your partner down my throat and tell me to keep my kids at home any more than I have the right to squat down and s**t on the pavement in front of your kids.
chrysagon wrote: » im more interested that hes a straight politician and not bent or corrupt like many of the politicians gone before him!
eviltwin wrote: » Mrs Byrne admit you went way overboard. The original post is valid. I can hold my husband's hand, kiss him or hug him and no comment is passed. A gay person can do the same but may be subjected to a comment. I've heard them myself. Only a few months back I was outside a well known dublin gay bar and two lads on the other side of the road shouted an abusive term. It's not nice. I know the advice is to ignore but it's not easy to do that. And it shouldn't even be an issue. No one is suggesting any sex acts at all, you came up with that one all on your own. Of course we would all be horrified by a blow job in a public street but how you can compare that to two people having a brief kiss or a hug is beyond me. Are you just uncomfortable with displays of affection in general?
mrsbyrne wrote: » It depends on the extent of the show of affection and the circumstances. I think if I go to a nightclub tonight (chance would be a fine thing) and the drink is flowing and the music is rocking then its perfectly acceptable to see couples snogging and grinding etc. I know I'm not a ceili run by the parish priest in 1962. In public seating areas, for example outside pubs on the pavement, on park benches etc. people simply must be cognisant of others. end of story. BTW I wouldn't be ignoring anyone shouting homophobic slurs at me. As you may have guessed I'm very reactionary. I'm fat and occasionally am on the receiving end of some choice remarks. Im afraid I don’t react well, and have only recently had a rather embarrassed Garda on the door step after one smart alek was sufficiently shaken by my response to move to make a complaint of threatening behaviour about me.
floggg wrote: » I think you'll find they do have that right. ****ting in public is an arrestable offence however.
Flem31 wrote: » I don't think anyone cares about the private life of any politican regardless of their sexual preference.
Flem31 wrote: » If Lucinda announced she was expecting another child and someone posted it on boards, I'm am sure that there would be I don't care comments on that as well.
