strobe wrote: » There's nothing men want more in a girlfriend than a girl that seems not that bothered about sex or that will deliberately deny herself it for alternative reasons. They fvcking love that. It's been proven again and again. It's the most self apparent thing in the world. Ask men anywhere and they'll tell you, "that girl that appeared sex adverse for any number of unattractive reasons, I just knew she was the one for me". You can read these and many other tips in chapters such as "Men Love The Chase" and "Make Yourself Unavailable" in the upcoming e-book by famous middle aged single childless female spinster Clarissa Lonely Neverfcked, founder of the 'Cats for Strong Independent Nuns Foundation (CSINF)'.
RonanP77 wrote: » This is an odd one, I never set a rule on it but then I suppose not many lads do. Girls seem to differ massively on it. One girl (I never caught her name) in particular seemed to think no dates or even much conversation was required. Our buddies hooked up and went off together, she asked if she could stay in my place, because it was only a few minutes walk away. We got back, I showed her the spare room, a few minutes later she climbed in beside me and said "any chance of a ride". She got very angry when I said no and told her to go to sleep. A girl I was with for years made me wait 8 months.
Conall Cernach wrote: » Americans do "dating" while we Irish generally do something entirely different. The Americans find nothing strange about asking a complete stranger to dinner and a movie and that being the entire "date". There might not be too many intimate moments in the evening so waiting a few of those types of events would be considered sensible for the woman to decide whether she really fancies the fella or if she just likes his taste in restaurants. The Irish approach seems to be to cop off with someone in a nightclub while both of you are legless so most people will have worked out fairly quickly if they are into each other or not.
bb1234567 wrote: » Lots of people go on dinner and movie dates with strangers in ireland too...
Holsten wrote: » Waiting is a waste of time, nothing more or less. Women and men bond through sexual intercourse, if you want a lasting bond then sex a must.
Micky Dolenz wrote: » If the chemistry is right, it's right. first night fcuk or not, if the spark is there, it will continue.
Venus In Furs wrote: » There are guys who say they don't have respect for women who "put out" early.
Venus In Furs wrote: » I agree with just going for it on the first date if you want to, but I don't know that the spark will necessarily last. Brilliant if it does, but I don't think it's a guarantee.
Venus In Furs wrote: » I dunno though. There are guys who say they don't have respect for women who "put out" early. I don't agree with this if the guy has no issue with accommodating said early "putting out" but if either one would prefer to wait a short while in certain situations and scope things out (not obviously to manipulate, tease, play games etc) I don't think that's necessarily something to be maligned.
kylith wrote: » These days I'd never sleep with a guy on the first date unless I was happy to never hear from him again. If a guy genuinely likes you waiting to have sex for a couple of weeks won't kill him.
kylith wrote: » It weeds out the guys who are genuinely interested in going out with you from those who are only interested it getting into your knickers.
strobe wrote: » Sorry Kylith, no offense but that's just incredibly naive... Ask any guy that's had a friend that was 'a bit of a player' as I think the kids are calling it these days, and they'll tell you just how frequently the guy continued to date/go out with girls where sex wasn't immediately on the cards, for weeks or more even. Because, firstly they 'liked the chase' and sooner or later you get tired of only playing the easy computer games, and secondly, it's not exactly like they were going without sex during that period of time. The flip side of the coin as well is that if a guy ends things after the sleep with a girl, it's because they were only interested in 'getting into their knickers' or 'a bit of a player', and I'm sure sole of the time that was the case, but, in my experience when this tended to be the case with friends etc, the most common reasons were that, well the sex was a bit of a let down, and they weren't mad enough about the girl to go through the whole 'learning period'. Or, after going out with them for a while they'd decided they just weren't the one for them, and we're planning on ending things anyway. Or, despite liking the girl a lot, the apparent lack of desire for sex, for whatever reason, ultimately put them off them too much. The fact is the only thing that postponing sex ever guarantees, is postponed sex.
up for anything wrote: » For me I'd like to get to know someone a bit before jumping into bed with him, not least because the safe sex that people practise these days isn't in the least bit safe. Condoms are good to a certain extent but you can still catch Herpes, Chlamydia and Genital Warts while using them. People don't like to use protection during oral sex it seems - kind of ruins the buzz. :rolleyes: Waiting a while is no guarantee that you'll be able to suss out whether the other person is lying when you query their sexual health but it does help and means you don't make a mistake that isn't ever going to go away in the heat of the moment.
up for anything wrote: » For me I'd like to get to know someone a bit before jumping into bed with him, .
Saralee4 wrote: » Usually you should spot some red flags during the time given for 'the chase' like them cancelling dates with little notice or whatever because they are 'playing easy computer games' Spend a bit of time with someone like that and don't give them what they want and soon enough their true colours start to show or you'll get little hints at least anyway!