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ANNONCORK

Story with Pa O Callaghan not playing again this year. I knew he wasnt going to but anyone know why ? He'd be some addition like it doesnt make sense..

Mehapoy

ANNONCORK wrote: »

Story with Pa O Callaghan not playing again this year. I knew he wasnt going to but anyone know why ? He'd be some addition like it doesnt make sense..

Maybe he'll cross the border and play with limerick! Would be handier for him to get to training and all!

CORKDOUBLE

Lads that football team named for sunday ....it makes no since ....first they said Cussen was injured hamstring yet hes named ....Goold has a slight calf injury yet he does not play ....last sunday Clancy was poor at no.3 and Cadogan was poor at no.6 , both play in the same positions on sunday ...the players called up from the clubs Ballincollig etc. have neaver shown form with respects to them to play at this level ....they do not stand out in the county championship ...they are no where near intercounty standard .....you would not need a rocket science degree to know that this man has no clue what so ever ....again this year they are the only team ever to train hard on Friday nights ....even Don Davis said last year that he found that strange ....no effort what so ever in picking a settled team ....no idea who to pick at midfield when everybody knows that its a big problem area for us ....Michael Cussen is not the answer I hate going on about him the poor guy gets a lot of stick ...fair enough he cant play Ian Maguire , Sean Kiely or Ruairi Deane at the moment ....but surely Michael O Laoire and Sean Dineen are better bets right now for midfield ...but then the treatment of Dineen last year was a disgrace ....

Smith614

ANNONCORK wrote: »

Story with Pa O Callaghan not playing again this year. I knew he wasnt going to but anyone know why ? He'd be some addition like it doesnt make sense..

Lets worry about who we have and not worry about those that aren't there. A good intermediate final in Cork doesn't make any player the answer to Cork troubles. I would like to see him involved to see what he could achieve.

darragh_haven

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Lads that football team named for sunday ....it makes no since ....first they said Cussen was injured hamstring yet hes named ....Goold has a slight calf injury yet he does not play ....last sunday Clancy was poor at no.3 and Cadogan was poor at no.6 , both play in the same positions on sunday ...the players called up from the clubs Ballincollig etc. have neaver shown form with respects to them to play at this level ....they do not stand out in the county championship ...they are no where near intercounty standard .....you would not need a rocket science degree to know that this man has no clue what so ever ....again this year they are the only team ever to train hard on Friday nights ....even Don Davis said last year that he found that strange ....no effort what so ever in picking a settled team ....no idea who to pick at midfield when everybody knows that its a big problem area for us ....Michael Cussen is not the answer I hate going on about him the poor guy gets a lot of stick ...fair enough he cant play Ian Maguire , Sean Kiely or Ruairi Deane at the moment ....but surely Michael O Laoire and Sean Dineen are better bets right now for midfield ...but then the treatment of Dineen last year was a disgrace ....

Just on Dineen, he was asked to go back for the McGrath cup but declined. And O'Laoire should at least be starting every second game for the Mcgrath cup and league to see how he goes, but Collins is put Midfield!!! Bit of a joke.

thinkstoomuch1

Smith614 wrote: »

TTM.. A gutsy performance from Rochestown. Some good performances from the usual suspects. Thought no. 25 Meaney threw himself around well and got stuck in. conditions were very tough and Rochestown won a match Cork teams would normally wilt in. Kingstons point in 1st half where he caught puck out and showed class by losing his marker and pointing was superb for any level. The nenagh no.6 did a good marking job tho. Was Nealon no.29 dropped or just not good enough. Would be great to see Rochestown go all the way. Their subs today all performed well.

Nealon had injury nenagh lad I was with told me

Kennedy half back was huge suprise be dropped

Management rochestown nor only won game but had key eye on Ard scoil game and that's why meaney came on half time

I said this bout months ago I expected him play v Ard scoil if they meet or hammis in luke meade and ronan lynch they will need his inter county expierence

I think he will start the next day as with sullivan they need expierence
He was fine yesterday and he'll be fine start
Griffin was outstanding as was murphy and Cashman was unbelievable and kelleher also
It's very hard not to include Cashman cork minior but tough call to make

Sullivan has good game but at half time thry imo knew thry had winning game

Cormac was brillant, very strong winning ball and once criticism I had before in relation starting for cork was didn't score enough from play but yesterday goal and scores if keep up will be hard to leave out

Kingston was very good and power and lynch also

Can they go all the way??
Management imo gives me huge confidence and I think if meaney is fit to start I think as full back line is very tight and their work rate is phenomal they have best chance imo all cork school to do it

If hammies beat Ard scoil cork guaranteed a team in the final and win or loose all ireland series

The five day delay will help Ard scoil v Hamilton as lynch and casey may be back
My only real concern with rochestown is football also and if Kingston or Cormack or griffin got injured there huge losses
It was good to see Rochestown physically blow nenagh away in cork teams like you said don't do that

There no reason why cork minors can't be strong this year imo
Peters and loughanne had great games for nenagh but found scores hard to come by
I still think rochestown did not hit top gear yesterday and changes at half time imo showed they have more in them which is good news

As for pa callaghan unfortunately he won't be playing for cork it seems

I don't think as another poster said he'd ever play for limerick, imo would make no sense as limerick management set imo doesn't compare to corks and corks is much much better

thinkstoomuch1

I think jbm has done all he can to get pa playing but I agree time to move on
I wouldnt be asking him next year or again he has to make the ist move
He's huge potential and he's club game would improve under training of Matthew and landers
He'll do well with with clem smith ballyhale have tough draw next year and could be beaten in ist round

thinkstoomuch1

darragh_haven wrote: »

Just on Dineen, he was asked to go back for the McGrath cup but declined. And O'Laoire should at least be starting every second game for the Mcgrath cup and league to see how he goes, but Collins is put Midfield!!! Bit of a joke.

I'd totally agree

And while hes not intercounty I'd call up Wheldon from haven before I have hazel or Hodnet
I'm huge fan of mark collins think there's more I'n him and he's working with father at home he can train more he'll be terrific but I agree he is not a midfielder and I fear he'll be made look poor against good teams

Dinnen imo can't blame him declining after way he brought in outstanding challenge v meath in one half sat on bench in sligo game

What do you make of new management in haven??
Huge loss Mccarthy changed he's mind went under twenty ones

Cork will like win mcgrath cup but the dublin game I'm worried
If thry loose that with trips to the north it's huge ask to get momentum back huge ask
Cork never scored from play last week in the second half
Sean was right durrant admitted he had poor season til the final
I admire durrant for that and he said there's more in him
If he had good coaching maybe have him on the panel
But who will coach these guys to improve is the worry

darragh_haven

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd totally agree

And while hes not intercounty I'd call up Wheldon from haven before I have hazel or Hodnet
I'm huge fan of mark collins think there's more I'n him and he's working with father at home he can train more he'll be terrific but I agree he is not a midfielder and I fear he'll be made look poor against good teams

Dinnen imo can't blame him declining after way he brought in outstanding challenge v meath in one half sat on bench in sligo game

What do you make of new management in haven??
Huge loss Mccarthy changed he's mind went under twenty ones

Cork will like win mcgrath cup but the dublin game I'm worried
If thry loose that with trips to the north it's huge ask to get momentum back huge ask
Cork never scored from play last week in the second half
Sean was right durrant admitted he had poor season til the final
I admire durrant for that and he said there's more in him
If he had good coaching maybe have him on the panel
But who will coach these guys to improve is the worry

Your right, Roland Whelton isn't inter county standard, but hes the same as Hazel, a good club player and that is it.
Collins in a very good half forward and great vision to get quality ball into the full forward line. He's good for us in Midfield if we are struggling in that area, but thats Club football.
Sean Dineen was messed around last years, and he made a huge commitment to football even thought he up to his eyes with work as a dairy farmer, and all he got was false promises (i wonder how many inter county player are farmers these days?)

McCarthy reluctantly originally took the senior Castlehaven job but reconsidered. The management team are ok, Christy Collins has a lot of experence and should be of a great help to Jim Nolan. John Cleary is doing the training sessions as long as the under 21's are training with the seniors, so i'm not dissapointed with the set up.

McCarthy and Cleary in the U21 set up is excellent.

I can see cork staying up in Div 1 this years league, but i'd say it could be by accident rather than design. Individual brillance to pull us through in one or 2 games.

N20

ANNONCORK wrote: »

Story with Pa O Callaghan not playing again this year. I knew he wasnt going to but anyone know why ? He'd be some addition like it doesnt make sense..

Won't commit apparently - he's not even in with 21s

thinkstoomuch1

M Martin (Nemo Rangers); P O’Connor (Legion), D Culhane (Ballylongford); J McGuire (Listowel Emmets); C Dorman (Bishopstown), B O Driscoll (Tadhg Mac Cathraigh), T Clancy (Fermoy); I Maguire, (St Finbarr’s) G O’Sullivan (Listry); S Kiely (Ballincollig); L Connolly (Nemo Rangers) ; A O Donovan (Nemo Rangers) T Hickey (Castleisland Desmonds), C Cox (Listowel Emmets) P Geaney (Dingle)

Subs: E O Conchuir (An Ghaeltacht) for A O Donovan (40) D Harrington (Adrigole) for T Hickey (42) R Murphy (Beaufort) for B O Driscoll (55) S Keane (Legion) for I Maguire (55) A Spillane (Templenoe) for P Geaney (60) K O Sullivan (Kenmare) for C Dorman (62)

That's ucc team hammered tralee it as I though they would once showed interest, won eeighteen point to six

That half back line and midfield will cause cork huge problem in final
I hope that team or close it starts v cork in cork need be tested and no false dawns

If ucc go for it they will beat cork if cuthbhert picking wrong team
Ucc also have a designated football coach
Ucc win would be best thing ever in wake up call for Dublin and least some wouldn't live off two in two mcgrath cup wins as an honour achievement when with most colleague and likes Mary I being poor and clare not in it. Kerry don't give a monkies and limerick poor then its bit joke competition
Hurling equivalent is much better

Looking at ucc game you want Culhane or maguire on hayes
Both trying force way on ti kerry team so both be up for it
Half forward line I'd hope actually want durrant and Desmond to both start in half forward line
They have not been tested at all all really and showed nothing great st the same time so I say test them against top half back line

I hope cussen or gould or even collins starts midfield

Maguire or sullivan with kiely helping out will win battle
Let's start o donughe and jennings corner back. Or loughrey as he's certainly this guy's can do a job, and we'll see how cox and Geaney do against them

Cox is trying get on kerry team so he has point to prove

Ucc half forward line could be stronger but still hazel could struggle like Jamie sullivan defending
I'm not disrespecting waterford by saying cork are in final, but any waterford fan expects cork win handy
If Morgan has boys right and cuthbhert sticks same selection he has then ucc will win

You won't know ucc game til the day though

Horse84

Cit team today

thinkstoomuch1

Cork lead 2-6 to 1-7
Sullivan and Moylan with goals but ciy be fair pat mulchay picked a strong team around middle third and lot wides but well in game

Midfield haughey and Murray not working well all bar haughney got point

Cork should still win but have make changes cronin or kearney if not both have come on midfield and half forward

zetecescort

UCC 2-23 Kerry 2-14 FT

CORKDOUBLE

Peter Kelleher was with the hurlers today ...Sean O Donoughue was with the u21. footballers ....does this mean that Kelleher is not with the u21 footballers ? TTM do you know whether he is or not ....thanks again.

willietherock

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Peter Kelleher was with the hurlers today ...Sean O Donoughue was with the u21. footballers ....does this mean that Kelleher is not with the u21 footballers ? TTM do you know whether he is or not ....thanks again.

These guys should be told cop themselves and pick one sport at this age. They know themselves which sport they have a preference for at this stage. FWIW I was impressed with both v UL in the hurling.

willietherock

Horse84 wrote: »

Cit team today

Are they missing anyone? Strong looking panel.

zetecescort

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thinkstoomuch1

Cork 4-15 to cit 1-13
Play winner of tipp or clare

I think tipp win it handy as clare have challenge v WExford today and then game tommorrow

Add in the fact tots who I heard this evening played practically everywhere roving role last night Aron cunningham half forward line and Nicky o connell centre back played a full game for inter firm all ireland that they ei electronics won 3-21 to 2-5 last night I say these lads wont't be up for sunday

Davy Fitzgerald. If it's true what I heard. Wasn't at game myself but know someone that was, was at the game and right fully so when around seven clare lads either senior or under twenty ones playing

Few other under twenty ones Could be out for sunday also as there in England on holiday for winning under twenty one this weekend
I expect cork tipp next week to play
In semi final and if that happens it is likely be cork venue next week as last time they met it was in tipp

Imo the semi final if cork win, should fear none teams left in competition imo if pick right team
These games very hard to predict cause you don't actually know teams til there announced normally on day of the games with some teams

Ger cunningham meant be lining up darragh o connell kerry player for Dublin as transfer to club up there
He will be huge bonus if he joins them
Say few other counties players working up their could be added to the panel

Today was tough tough game and I said during week pat mulchay huge fan jbm and landers and he really done them huge huge favour by picking strongest team available and allow he's lad really go for it and cork won buy today showed up lot lads not up intercounty
Remember league we will meet better teams and they will bear cork of this team starts imo
I said half times changes needed be made cronin and kearney I asked for and made difference even though cronin should been on earlier
When back to a point he got goal kearney that's dhows leadership and cork were in trouble real real trouble up to then
Harnedy make huge impact point and winning primary possesion and great goal by Mccarthy put a gloss on it

Harnedy got point. Cronin got a point, kearney goal so subs got one three vital time game real senior players, cork needed them
This was a close game
Great test today thank you pat mulchay.

Collins fine game could not be faulted for the goal
Kearney was okay but was taken for a few scores and goal showed why he is not inter county
Badly burned for the goal, Kavanagh is under twenty one cork but not a forward really
Questions is he is better than o neill. Mcdonnell or sullivan imo he's not
Burke and murphy are younger and should be developed imo

Joyce had a fine game, rock solid but hamersley is ex tipp intercounty county player but still real test is callin or Corbett or donnell or Honan or duggan

Conor sullivan had a solid game always sharp and clear the world of ball, bubbles had him trouble at times
Bubbles moved half forward then
Sullivan was really cleaned out by lordan in the air who had a fine game for cit imo
Lordan was called up cork panel but unfortunately got no games yet

Lorchan done well against Cooper but Cooper showed up well and imo should get game time cork as on panel for league, imo starter in championship as he'll improve games
Shooting needs improve
O connor had battle with cronin but very impressed with cronin and imo john cronin should be on the cork panel

He even went in full forward at times and while shooting is poor he wins ball and is game
O connor was solid be fair

Murray completely out played by Aidan walsh
Murray said it no good on physically contested game
Had be taken off as I predicted at half time

Haughney git two nice points be fair but murphy from meelin with walsh really won lot ball
He was injured but when he and Murray went off you could see difference with cronin and kearney imo

Walsh won battle midfield imo on he's own imo on
Now people may say it's Aidan walsh go easy on haughey and Murray
Today was test standard they face and completely out of the game in large periods, imagine what riche hogan would do or Browne etc
That's the standard you aspire to, and must make statement of intent if you want get on the panel.

O shea must get run at midfield as lawton, haughney and Murray are after getting their chances
Murray should never been called up imo, was called up last year didn't impress, why call him up again
I don't like a player being made look poor he was , and imo management are to blame asking guys do job he simply proved can't do at this level
A fine club player in cork credit due but game way more open
Said after ul when lot though he done well wait for the ist real test

These two lads no where near senior intercounty with greatest respect to them

This game showed that Andy walsh and o Frahill o connor are not up to senior intercounty

Andy Walsh trys hard but can't score
I though Frahill o connor may make it but he struggled against a non senior intercounty player and lee until he went off was the best of them with two fine points , jack herihly ex cork minor and under twenty one
Won he's duel with a cork player

Lee had a fine game and will get better with games imo as he's still in school and still young, you give him time he'll make it no doubt
But you can't keep making excuses for lads twenty four or more with more chances than lee
Lee I'n two games made a statement some failed do in around six or even more games
Lee should make league panel if he wants to commit still being in school
No pressure should be put on the lad

Moylan has game I wanted one two good game
Pebbles had a fine game from play playing deep at times roaming, had Dennehy in real trouble but dennehy settled chances cork after this I'd done himself no harm imo In no real cover from Lawrence who's fine club player Brian dillon but no really corner back as plays midfield cit

Darren Mccarthy had best game yet and imo was last chance saloon but two threw so he will get another chance and deserves it be fair I think but really and truly questions is he better than farell, Paudie. Cadogan, Spillane , farell, Moylan or horgan so imo should be a sub keeper if not
We'll have to see but imo better than horgan with attuide but rest I doubt it

Kelleher made goal fine catch and he showed good ball winning and if hurling alone and has no football than he be fine imo but hurling will struggle imo as he needs to develop it but playing under twenty football with cork and football also will imo limit the time he can give it to it

Cronin has fine sub cameo great point
Lawton didn't set world on fire and he had time to do it, he had moments but you couldn't say he stand out as he should in been around long enough now be fair imo and midfield didn't really get grips until cronin came on and helped the sector
Harnedy brillant few minutes as always
Showed furious approach and appetite and he doesn't have to prove anything but every game cork he's tremendous attuide.
He's imo role model others should follow, he's attuide is brilliant no matter what game it is
Future captain cork imo

Kearney brilliant game as a sub and saved imo cork at midfield and vital goal

Good test but cork have to simply make changes for the next game as that team won't beat either tipp or clare imo
The time for testing players and expiernentinting imo is getting less and less in you expiernent in the semi final there out
I'd pick strong team for semi, brings regular lads up to speed with Kilkenney close up, so you also if you make final, get a second game

You then play the fringe lads in final as winning losing irrelevant imo but extra games vital so semi must win
They still have challenge v WExford and ballyhale in play fringe lads and mix match v WExford and you'll learn fairly fast v WExford how many make it and you loose WExford it'd irrelevant or same v ballyhale
You can play them twenty four hours before waterford crystal semi final if needs be as you will have two different teams to an extent

You can't do that next week as you do and their out waterford crystal.
Cork before killkenny are likely have three more games, but it be great have four and gave all lads chance
Must win next week imo
Any one notice change I'n cork style???

I think while not totally possession there tweaking it and running lot more at teams creating off load and seems more goal focused and seem be trying create them more since landers came in and cork seem more on Intent breaking the ist line of tackle rather than pass way to space like last year

Cit Stephen murphy fine gameafter taking time to settle showed why better imo than kearney and should imo be on cork team v WExford in challenge ,he did concede one two but he was up against far better opponent than kearney was and is younger so would improve. copper brilliant game as walsh had also , cronin also and lordan showed up well, and bubbles had a fine game

Cit didn't play Ellis or coughlan was injured wille rock
Cit should be happy performance though
Pat mulchay is fine coach
Throw in Ellis and coughlan they will be tough opponent for ucc as likely meet in their side draw fitzgoibbion cup

On a side note waterford lost so this year failed beat any inter county team so imo early yet but cork way ahead them already

thinkstoomuch1

Lads john cronin im baffled absolutely baffled he's not getting game cork
He reminds me niall mac in 2002 HE'S brave super super ball winner can play midfield half or full forward he brakes tackle and has want desire a hunger unreal second to none

He's shooting is awful tines on good day fine bad day it's awful but good coaching and work he'd improve and wouldnt need to score much cork in he's ball winner and. Strong running creates space for others
Cit in fitzgoibbion cup final last year he won lot ball but poor shooting at time but he'll rarely be beaten high ball

He's rough diamond with good coaching in senior set up being around better players working full time coaches he imo would improve no end.
He won more ball than lawton Andy walsh or o connor did put together imo

He's better than peter kelleher work with as hurling alone cit I think while hes solid footballer
He never fails give less hundred per cent all he needs is finese shooting
He can actually shoot on day brilliant but consistency he craves
I wish jbm give him game s

It makes sense

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Lads john cronin im baffled absolutely baffled he's not getting game cork
He reminds me niall mac in 2002 HE'S brave super super ball winner can play midfield half or full forward he brakes tackle and has want desire a hunger unreal second to none

He's shooting is awful tines on good day fine bad day it's awful but good coaching and work he'd improve and wouldnt need to score much cork in he's ball winner and. Strong running creates space for others
Cit in fitzgoibbion cup final last year he won lot ball but poor shooting at time but he'll rarely be beaten high ball

He's rough diamond with good coaching in senior set up being around better players working full time coaches he imo would improve no end.
He won more ball than lawton Andy walsh or o connor did put together imo

He's better than peter kelleher work with as hurling alone cit I think while hes solid footballer
He never fails give less hundred per cent all he needs is finese shooting
He can actually shoot on day brilliant but consistency he craves
I wish jbm give him game s

I have seen him many times playing for lisgoold he has a real cut to him wants to win badly sometimes steps over the line but that is not a bad thing shows desire, I agree if walsh from killeagh gets a chance then so should he not sure why jbm ignores him has been playing well with cit and intermediates for the last few years. Maybe others know the reason but I agree he should be given a chance

thinkstoomuch1

It makes sense wrote: »

I have seen him many times playing for lisgoold he has a real cut to him wants to win badly sometimes steps over the line but that is not a bad thing shows desire, I agree if walsh from killeagh gets a chance then so should he not sure why jbm ignores him has been playing well with cit and intermediates for the last few years. Maybe others know the reason but I agree he should be given a chance

He needs work no doubt to improve but he's raw potential
I'd have him on panel before Andy walsh. Lawton, o connor , cian mac every day week that's four imo better than
All rest countless chances
I don't know reason but I'd like to know why he's not tried
Surely today he stood out
Very young still others are much older and wont improve imo

It makes sense

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

He needs work no doubt to improve but he's raw potential
I'd have him on panel before Andy walsh. Lawton, o connor , cian mac every day week that's four imo better than
All rest countless chances
I don't know reason but I'd like to know why he's not tried
Surely today he stood out
Very young still others are much older and wont improve imo

It's a real strange call he was Munster intermediate player of the year last year and still no chance either jbm does not fancy him or there is something else affecting his chances. Cannot be anything to do with being at a junior club as jbm not afraid to pick harmedy or Lawton

thinkstoomuch1

It makes sense wrote: »

It's a real strange call he was Munster intermediate player of the year last year and still no chance either jbm does not fancy him or there is something else affecting his chances. Cannot be anything to do with being at a junior club as jbm not afraid to pick harmedy or Lawton

Agree or Ellis was also picked
All like see is give him four games and judge

I'd start him v WExford
Cork panel is still carrying few not up senior

thinkstoomuch1

Does any know who is coaching effin next year please?

Fireball07

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Does any know who is coaching effin next year please?

Richard O'Neill will be the manager, Fergus Ryan the coach.

thinkstoomuch1

Fireball07 wrote: »

Richard O'Neill will be the manager, Fergus Ryan the coach.

Fella from mallow I presume?!

Thanks
If fergal ryan blackcock makes sense but other one be interesting

Fireball07

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Fella from mallow I presume?!

Thanks
If fergal ryan blackcock makes sense but other one be interesting

No, it's the Mallow fella alright as far as I know.

thinkstoomuch1

An appalling ist half from cork truly appalling ist half in which just two points ist half jesus this is bad really really bad bar individual brilliant Dan mcroin

Scoring from play one half football against poor division four team is dire to
But cork scores nothing play in half last week also
But yrrra sure no worries just cork bad day these things happen

Ist foremost huge wind yes but still no excuse for cork, sloppy in contact with ball,midfield average, half forward line I said when picked was no balance no creativity and it's proven today

Now mac eoin able score with bad wind no excuse Hayes
Some poor wides
Bar macoin none rest forwards pose any threat
He actually winning ball also

Expected cork win handy as all due respect Waterford there worst team in munster
Mvglinchy good coach but limited resources but Waterford deserve be ahead
A shocking ist half from cork but of course let's not panic, blame wind. Blame everything else bar actually look at performance
Cork will win it as Waterford will tire and cork training last three months way fitter and once empties bench will win but ist half is harsh lesson in team management picked.

Down four to two.

CORKDOUBLE

The weather is bad for both teams .....dare I say it has the s... hit the fan today with this manager ....the man is out of his depth at this level...