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Official Conor McGregor Thread (READ MOD WARNING IN OP)

pablohoney87

OK guys,

The dust has cleared on the disaster that was the last thread. The biggest culprits won't be joining us here (Or anywhere else on the forum). Others have been warned in PMs.

This thread is a clean slate for everyone but there will be zero tolerance on it.

I remind all users to take a fresh look at the charter before posting here.

FIGHTER BASHING OF ANY KIND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

It doesn't take a Masters in English to know the difference between a negative opinion of somebody and name calling.

This Thread is for all things about Connor that won't go into event threads. I.E. all speculation about opponents, his twitter posts, public appearances and media.

Once a fight has been announced and an event named all news relating to that fight can go into the event thread.

My own opinion on McGrogor vs Sanchez (Finally), this is an awful fight for sanchez I think. Especially if he loses to Connor at WW he is finished. Diego gets by with half decent striking and wrestling and the rest on athleticism and aggression.

Conors footwork is just too good to be held against the fence and isnt that much smaller than Diego. If Connor loses he'll probably get his wrist slapped by Dana and told to wise up and stick to 145, worst case scenario. Diego has much much more to lose in this fight and I think his emotions will get the best of him and we'll see something similar to Brimage.

But being honest I don't see the fight happening. Dana is probably getting a bit sick of fighters calling opponents out so publicly and he and his match makers will still want to be seen as the ones pulling the strings.

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walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

BT sports have the rights to the ufc

Thanks.

I had a feeling it was Setanta or BT but couldn't see any mention in the fight thread.

MagicIRL

Imagine getting under someone's skin enough that they sat down and created an entire parody video about you. Conor really is living the dream!

(If I recall correctly, Ricardo also did a Di Nero "impression" that was appalling at one of the press events. Trying to force himself in to the public eye with his "comedy" - don't give up the day job, Ricardo!)

T-K-O

walshb wrote: »

A answer might have been quicker......

Forget it!

BT sports have the rights to the ufc

walshb

dickwod1 wrote: »

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ufc+uk+tv+time

A answer might have been quicker......

Forget it!

dickwod1

walshb wrote: »

What station is broadcasting this, and at what time is Conor expected in the octagon?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ufc+uk+tv+time

walshb

What station is broadcasting this, and at what time is Conor expected in the octagon?

John_D80

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Irish is a nationality, not a race.

Race can also be used to identify a group of people of shared nationality.

The term isn't limited to classifying groups based on shared physical characteristics.

Edit: Fwiw racist is probably an incorrect word for someone to use in this instance anyway. Xenophobic would be a better fit perhaps. IF someone were offended by it. Which I'm not btw :-) He was having a go at an individual. Not a group/race/nation.

John_D80

Jesus that video by Lamas is incredibly cringey. He's actually only managed to make himself look stupid and not Conor McGregor. I was embarrassed for him, watching it.

How obsessed with someone do you have to be to put so much effort, time and probably money into making something like that?? McGregor has him seriously rattled I'd say. And without even trying.

Big time FAIL Ricardo.

Mike Tobacco

I think people are vastly overestimating how many PPVs an Aldo/McGregor title fight would sell. Any talk of matching Jones v Cormier (780k) is ludicrous. The biggest selling UFC PPV with a main event at a weight below lightweight was Cruz v Faber 2, which did less than half (350k) of what Jones/Cormier did.

Aldo averages less than 250k PPV buys. Even with the hype around Conor, just matching Cruz/Faber 2 would be an achievement, and that's if it was in Vegas! Holding it in Dublin would make it a long shot.

The co-main and undercard would have to be amazing. I think another title fight is out or wouldn't really make much difference as it could probably only be Johnson or Dillashaw, who have even worse numbers than Aldo. It's too soon for a Lesnar/GSP comeback (either of which would get their own PPV anyway). Maybe Rampage v Cormier?

Davei141

canonball5 wrote: »

Not to be over the top about this, but would it be acceptable to make a video mocking Mexicans, or African Americans?

I understand that he's trying to be funny but this comes across a bit ignorant and a tad racist.

Who cares? It is funny, if you are going to play up the whole Irish thing to the absolute max at least let people take the piss. Don't be so precious. When Chael went after the Brazilians it was bloody hilarious, Llamas is no Chael but i got a good laugh out of it.

Ash.J.Williams

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

He's a cool customer, won't get hyped up like Poirier or Brandao. Bigger than I thought as well.

yeah i think he's going to enjoy himself. The last two opponents were scared.

CurryFlavoured

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

siver could well be conors most psychologically prepared opponent in ufc. He is in a great position.

He's a cool customer, won't get hyped up like Poirier or Brandao. Bigger than I thought as well.

I found the Lamas vid kinda funny.

nocoverart

Zyzz wrote: »

This is the only acceptable parody..

Thought that was sh1t TBH, sounds more like an NYC or Boston accent rather than Dublin.

EuskalHerria

canonball5 wrote: »

racist.

Irish is a nationality, not a race. Anyway I have a thousand problems with it before that.

markcahill1985

Watched the first few embedded last night; jeez his missus has a great life; following him around to all events! How bad... Siver always looks dangerous; hope Conors movement will be too much for him! Looking forward to SUnday now

Zyzz

This is the only acceptable parody..

canonball5

Not to be over the top about this, but would it be acceptable to make a video mocking Mexicans, or African Americans?

I understand that he's trying to be funny but this comes across a bit ignorant and a tad racist.

MartyMcFly84

Another american doing an absolutely terrible Irish impression.

In fairness most Irish people are terrible at doing American impressions even though we have much more exposure to the various US accents.

Better to laugh at it that let it annoy you.

BeepBeep!

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Ricardo Lamas made a 7 minute video imitating Conor.
If you watch a beheading video involving a family member, this will still be the worst thing you've ever seen.

http://severemma.com/2015/01/video-ricardo-lamas-imitating-mcgregor-the-delirious-conrad-mcgillicutty/

Jaysus, thats embarassing!

pablohoney87

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Ricardo Lamas made a 7 minute video imitating Conor.
If you watch a beheading video involving a family member, this will still be the worst thing you've ever seen.

http://severemma.com/2015/01/video-ricardo-lamas-imitating-mcgregor-the-delirious-conrad-mcgillicutty/

Another american doing an absolutely terrible Irish impression.

Ian Whelan

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Ricardo Lamas made a 7 minute video imitating Conor.
I'm not being flippant, but if you watch a beheading video involving a family member, this will still be the worst thing you've ever seen.

http://severemma.com/2015/01/video-ricardo-lamas-imitating-mcgregor-the-delirious-conrad-mcgillicutty/

I actually thought it was hilarious.

EuskalHerria

Ricardo Lamas made a 7 minute video imitating Conor.
If you watch a beheading video involving a family member, this will still be the worst thing you've ever seen.

http://severemma.com/2015/01/video-ricardo-lamas-imitating-mcgregor-the-delirious-conrad-mcgillicutty/

Ash.J.Williams

siver could well be conors most psychologically prepared opponent in ufc. He is in a great position.

Mellor

Oregano_State wrote: »

If they managed to get a midnight main event on a Saturday night in Ireland. That's 4pm Pacific time, meaning a 2pm-4pm main card roughly. Surely that's not too bad if the line up is attractive enough?

I've just had a look at the PPV figures for UFC over the past 6 events and the average buy is just under 310k. This goes back as far as UFC 177 Dillashaw-Soto, which was an unusually low take, and includes an estimate of 780k buys for UFC 182, which is pretty high compared to recent events.

The PPV price is 50 dollars for standard definition, and 60 for HD, so I'll take 55 dollars as the price per buy. This gives an average PPV take of 17 million dollars.

Selling out Croke Park with 80k fans with a 150 euro (175 USD atm) average ticket price gives a 14 million USD gate, so this I'm sure would compensate for a possible lack of PPV buys over yonder in the states. BTW the avg ticket price is the biggest estimate I've made, I don't know what the average price is, looking at UFC 183, the prices range from 140 dollars to over a grand, so maybe I'm underestimating here.

Anyway, the numbers seem to add up for me. A sell out Croker is roughly equal to 250k PPV buys, which would appear to me to be a worthwhile risk that the retained PPV buys and potential for increasing worldwide appeal outweighs possible losses due to time zone.

Others thoughts are welcome. Do point out any glaring errors in my sums, I hope there aren't any.

Edit: On the Aviva's potential, 60k*175 USD = 10.5 million gate, so still a significant percentage of the average PPV take.

I think your estimates for average ticket price is off. You can't compare to the average for a 10k event in vegas, the prices are skewed. I think the average for Dublin last year was $145. With a massive stadium, there's relatively more $50 upper tier spots, this reduces the average. So for this it would be $125 or so. I don't think they could bank on selling it out with higher prices.

So that's a 7.5 million gate for Aviva. 10 million for Croker.
Also you didn't allow for the gate value if it was in America. A 10k Vegas event does a $3 million gate.

Which means an Irish stadium gate is "worth" an extra $4.5-7m, which is only 82k-128k PPV buys. Thats nothing really. I don't think it's enough to cover the loss if the was a daytime PPV in the states.

xtal191

chopperbyrne wrote: »

The gate will be far more than they normally get and if Conor were to win the title, then his next fight would be in Vegas on PPV and he'd be a bigger draw than he is now.

And what if he loses? And its not going to be far more when you combine money from ppvs and selling out the mgm.

chopperbyrne

xtal191 wrote: »

And what lose out on millions?

The gate will be far more than they normally get and if Conor were to win the title, then his next fight would be in Vegas on PPV and he'd be a bigger draw than he is now.

Fromvert

xtal191 wrote: »

Aldo vs McGregor is a huge fight, look at how much they're hyping him up over in America, its crazy and the build up for the fight would be nuts. People will tune in to see him win or to see him lose.

If that fight headlines a stacked card I reckon it could do big numbers. Throw CM Punks debut fight on it to help get the numbers up.

Aldo isn't a big draw, never has been and never will be and we're yet to see how big of a draw Conor is. There's nothing to suggest smaller guys will pull in big number especially the likes of Jones/Cormier, the biggest UFC PPV they have had in over a year. Silva/Weidman 2 and Ronda/Tate 2, two huge fights, where on that card btw.
The PPV business has been slowing down for the UFC.

There's only so much stacking of cards they can do with the 50 or so cards they put on.

Throwing in CM Punk is a total different animal tbh.

If it's just your normal card with a couple of good fights/names and Aldo/McGregor headlining I'd say 500k is around the max you're looking at.

xtal191

chopperbyrne wrote: »

They could put it on Fox again, then you don't need to worry about PPVs and Fox could show it live and on delay if they wanted.

And what lose out on millions?

xtal191

Fromvert wrote: »

That was a really good card. What makes you think Aldo/McGregor could do 4 times that?

Aldo vs McGregor is a huge fight, look at how much they're hyping him up over in America, its crazy and the build up for the fight would be nuts. People will tune in to see him win or to see him lose.

If that fight headlines a stacked card I reckon it could do big numbers. Throw CM Punks debut fight on it to help get the numbers up.

chopperbyrne

They could put it on Fox again, then you don't need to worry about PPVs and Fox could show it live and on delay if they wanted.