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Official Conor McGregor Thread (READ MOD WARNING IN OP)

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OK guys,

The dust has cleared on the disaster that was the last thread. The biggest culprits won't be joining us here (Or anywhere else on the forum). Others have been warned in PMs.

This thread is a clean slate for everyone but there will be zero tolerance on it.

I remind all users to take a fresh look at the charter before posting here.

FIGHTER BASHING OF ANY KIND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

It doesn't take a Masters in English to know the difference between a negative opinion of somebody and name calling.

This Thread is for all things about Connor that won't go into event threads. I.E. all speculation about opponents, his twitter posts, public appearances and media.

Once a fight has been announced and an event named all news relating to that fight can go into the event thread.

My own opinion on McGrogor vs Sanchez (Finally), this is an awful fight for sanchez I think. Especially if he loses to Connor at WW he is finished. Diego gets by with half decent striking and wrestling and the rest on athleticism and aggression.

Conors footwork is just too good to be held against the fence and isnt that much smaller than Diego. If Connor loses he'll probably get his wrist slapped by Dana and told to wise up and stick to 145, worst case scenario. Diego has much much more to lose in this fight and I think his emotions will get the best of him and we'll see something similar to Brimage.

But being honest I don't see the fight happening. Dana is probably getting a bit sick of fighters calling opponents out so publicly and he and his match makers will still want to be seen as the ones pulling the strings.

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Fromvert

xtal191 wrote: »

Depending on what other fights are on the card of course it could. The Johnson card that McGregor/Poirier was on did over 200,00 ppvs.

That was a really good card. What makes you think Aldo/McGregor could do 4 times that?

xtal191

Fromvert wrote: »

No chance of that. Lighter guys don't sell that well.

It'll be held in Vegas and if Aldo/McGregor did 500k PPV buys it would be seen as a huge success.

Depending on what other fights are on the card of course it could. The Johnson card that McGregor/Poirier was on did over 200,00 ppvs.

Fromvert

I was always skeptical of them going ahead with Croker or the Aviva and will be shocked if they do. The UFC like to talk about having huge outdoor shows, they've talked about Cowboys stadium a few years ago and even Hawaii when BJ was in his pomp buy they never go through with it once it comes to the crunch.
The fact Dana threw out 'or Vegas' recently screams it's going to be in Vegas.

Yurt

Even today McGregor was on the radio saying he's still saying he thinks it will be in Croker.
He's been good with his predictions so far so fingers crossed

Fromvert

xtal191 wrote: »

This fight card could easily match Jones vs Cormier numbers if not exceed it IMO. And you never added how much they'd make from selling out the MGM.

Half a million PPV buys at $60 a pop comes in at $30m and thats not even including what they get from selling out the MGM and I'm guessing costs would be much lower to have it in Vegas.

No chance of that. Lighter guys don't sell that well.

It'll be held in Vegas and if Aldo/McGregor did 500k PPV buys it would be seen as a huge success.

xtal191

Oregano_State wrote: »

If they managed to get a midnight main event on a Saturday night in Ireland. That's 4pm Pacific time, meaning a 2pm-4pm main card roughly. Surely that's not too bad if the line up is attractive enough?

I've just had a look at the PPV figures for UFC over the past 6 events and the average buy is just under 310k. This goes back as far as UFC 177 Dillashaw-Soto, which was an unusually low take, and includes an estimate of 780k buys for UFC 182, which is pretty high compared to recent events.

The PPV price is 50 dollars for standard definition, and 60 for HD, so I'll take 55 dollars as the price per buy. This gives an average PPV take of 17 million dollars.

Selling out Croke Park with 80k fans with a 150 euro (175 USD atm) average ticket price gives a 14 million USD gate, so this I'm sure would compensate for a possible lack of PPV buys over yonder in the states. BTW the avg ticket price is the biggest estimate I've made, I don't know what the average price is, looking at UFC 183, the prices range from 140 dollars to over a grand, so maybe I'm underestimating here.

Anyway, the numbers seem to add up for me. A sell out Croker is roughly equal to 250k PPV buys, which would appear to me to be a worthwhile risk that the retained PPV buys and potential for increasing worldwide appeal outweighs possible losses due to time zone.

Others thoughts are welcome. Do point out any glaring errors in my sums, I hope there aren't any.

Edit: On the Aviva's potential, 60k*175 USD = 10.5 million gate, so still a significant percentage of the average PPV take.

This fight card could easily match Jones vs Cormier numbers if not exceed it IMO. And you never added how much they'd make from selling out the MGM.

Half a million PPV buys at $60 a pop comes in at $30m and thats not even including what they get from selling out the MGM and I'm guessing costs would be much lower to have it in Vegas.

T-K-O

PPV's in Europe.... for Europeans???

Down with that sort of thing

Yurt

Would more Europeans be tempted to buy a PPV at this time in comparison to events that would start at 4 AM in the US?
Lets say the card was stacked with top European fighters and possibly another title fight?

Lets say selling out Croke Park is equal to 250k PPV buys and there was another 300 from the US and another 300 from Europe?
Do you think this would be possible?

Ash.J.Williams

i doubt anywhere of worth could put on a show after 11pm in Dublin. That aside, Dana uses the UFC success in Ireland as a promotional tool for the US. If it does go ahead the spectacle of succeeding may outweigh the risk of losing ppv....The hype will be huge.

Oregano_State

If they managed to get a midnight main event on a Saturday night in Ireland. That's 4pm Pacific time, meaning a 2pm-4pm main card roughly. Surely that's not too bad if the line up is attractive enough?

I've just had a look at the PPV figures for UFC over the past 6 events and the average buy is just under 310k. This goes back as far as UFC 177 Dillashaw-Soto, which was an unusually low take, and includes an estimate of 780k buys for UFC 182, which is pretty high compared to recent events.

The PPV price is 50 dollars for standard definition, and 60 for HD, so I'll take 55 dollars as the price per buy. This gives an average PPV take of 17 million dollars.

Selling out Croke Park with 80k fans with a 150 euro (175 USD atm) average ticket price gives a 14 million USD gate, so this I'm sure would compensate for a possible lack of PPV buys over yonder in the states. BTW the avg ticket price is the biggest estimate I've made, I don't know what the average price is, looking at UFC 183, the prices range from 140 dollars to over a grand, so maybe I'm underestimating here.

Anyway, the numbers seem to add up for me. A sell out Croker is roughly equal to 250k PPV buys, which would appear to me to be a worthwhile risk that the retained PPV buys and potential for increasing worldwide appeal outweighs possible losses due to time zone.

Others thoughts are welcome. Do point out any glaring errors in my sums, I hope there aren't any.

Edit: On the Aviva's potential, 60k*175 USD = 10.5 million gate, so still a significant percentage of the average PPV take.

ASOT

bur wrote: »

Never any chance this would go ahead in Ireland. The UFC just aren't willing to take a hit on the PPV buys. When was the last time belts were fought for in europe? Only Rampage/Hendo comes to mind and that was a long time ago.
It's a shame and a missed opportunity for the UFC, I think big events like this help grow the brand/sport massively.

I'd be fairly confident they would take the hit on the ppv buys if they felt they could sell out Croker or The Aviva which are both possible especially The Aviva. The gate alone would cover it. I don't think they would lose that many buys either if they stacked the card maybe another title fight. It's not beyond the realms of possibly like you make it sound, but since Dana said Croker or Vegas my money would be on Vegas if I had to bet on it!

bur

Never any chance this would go ahead in Ireland. The UFC just aren't willing to take a hit on the PPV buys. When was the last time belts were fought for in europe? Only Rampage/Hendo comes to mind and that was a long time ago.
It's a shame and a missed opportunity for the UFC, I think big events like this help grow the brand/sport massively.

civis_liberalis

Ian Whelan wrote: »

it's the fact that she has the gall to go on to national radio to discuss something she hasn't a clue about. Unreal.

And she was giving out about MMA on the radio as well.

Axwell

Its already been spoke about with Croke Park and they confirmed that they would love to host the event but should it happen then the curfew would need to be 11pm.

"McKenna said the UFC have enquired about a date for this May, and he also confirmed that any such event would need to end prior to 11pm — a curfew which would be put in place by Dublin City Council."

http://www.thescore.ie/ufc-at-croke-park-1881077-Jan2015/

Fromvert

Mellor wrote: »

Wasn't aware of the 11pm curfew (Can't find the PP decision online either).
But I was referring to the act that Croker Park can hold up to 3 special events per year without needing to apply for a license. They just need to submit an event management plan to DCC.

I know every concert I've been to in the Point/RDS/Croker had to be finished by 11pm and I've seen articles about fines when it goes over.
When I saw Pearl Jam in the point years ago the lights came on at 11pm even though they were still playing.
It does be down to the DCC agreement though.
I don't remember ever hearing of events going on after 11pm.

EuskalHerria

According to the DCC events management guidebook, an application for a proposed event over 5,000 needs to be advertised in papers at least 16 weeks before the event. Which means by the end of the month/start of February we may know more details of the UFCs plan.

http://dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/RecreationandCulture/Events/Documents/DCCEventOrganiserGuidance.pdf

Axwell

Personally I think there is pretty much 0% chance of either venue going to look for a license past the curfew, it would set a precedent that would be a nightmare for them down the line for concerts and other events. The amount of hassle as it is trying to get planning permission, its simply not going to happen that it runs past 11pm. The only way it happens in Dublin is during normal hours which doesnt suit the viewership in the states, the call is whether or not the UFC would prefer to fill the stadium here and have the European fighters itching to be on the card or move it to Vegas and sell it out there along with the huge number of PPV's. They have a lot invested in Conor and hes their golden boy of the moment so thats the best thing going in terms of chances of it being on here.

Going to be a sold out event either way but would obviously be great to get it here and have another title defence on the night and a host of European fighters on the card. Roll on Sunday first off!

Mellor

Wasn't aware of the 11pm curfew (Can't find the PP decision online either).
But I was referring to the act that Croker Park can hold up to 3 special events per year without needing to apply for a license. They just need to submit an event management plan to DCC.

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Oregano_State wrote: »

Surely the Aviva would be a better venue than Croker anyway. 60k fans would still beat the 55k UFC attendance record, and the stands would be closer to the cage.

Chances of allowing a midnight fight at the Aviva?

The Aviva would be better I think too.

It also has an 11pm curfew but chances of an extension must be better than Croke Park (as anywhere on earth has a better chance given CP's residents association and recent history of battles about events there)

Oregano_State

Surely the Aviva would be a better venue than Croker anyway. 60k fans would still beat the 55k UFC attendance record, and the stands would be closer to the cage.

Chances of allowing a midnight fight at the Aviva?

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Yurt wrote: »

I think it's too early to rule it out.
Whats the latest an event would be allowed to finish in Croke Park?

The planning permission has it at 11pm curfew

Mellor

xtal191 wrote: »

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/white-aldo-vs-mcgregor-would-be-biggest-fight-of-year-but-ireland-not-guaranteed

So what do yas reckon? Does that rule out Dublin?

Opens the door to Etihad Stadium in Melbourne is they lift the cage ban soon.

nm wrote: »

Given the history of the Croke Park residents, chances of a late licence for an event there would be around 0%.

They may or may not not need a license, and Croker isn't the only option any more in Dublin

nxbyveromdwjpg

xtal191 wrote: »

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/white-aldo-vs-mcgregor-would-be-biggest-fight-of-year-but-ireland-not-guaranteed

So what do yas reckon? Does that rule out Dublin?

Variances from the city - what exactly does that mean?

Given the history of the Croke Park residents, chances of a late licence for an event there would be around 0%.

Yurt

xtal191 wrote: »

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/white-aldo-vs-mcgregor-would-be-biggest-fight-of-year-but-ireland-not-guaranteed

So what do yas reckon? Does that rule out Dublin?

I think it's too early to rule it out.
Whats the latest an event would be allowed to finish in Croke Park?

xtal191

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/white-aldo-vs-mcgregor-would-be-biggest-fight-of-year-but-ireland-not-guaranteed

“There’s no question he could fill a stadium; the question is what makes the most sense for the business,” Fertitta told MMAjunkie. “That’s obviously a pay-per-view fight. It needs to be in the right time zone. We would need to get variances from the city. It’s just too soon to talk about that because the event would be taking place so late in the evening.

So what do yas reckon? Does that rule out Dublin?

Zero-Cool

So if he is a reebok athlete now, does that make him the third ufc fighter to get an official deal after Jones and Honda?

Edit: just saw his update

"Congratulations to Reebok on netting the biggest signature in the game. ‪#‎StayReady‬"

EuskalHerria

Yurt wrote: »

Its definitely the sponsorship deal.Fox just tweeted a picture of him in a Reebok shirt 2 minutes ago.

They deleted the tweet, as far as I can see.

Yurt

Its definitely the sponsorship deal.Fox just tweeted a picture of him in a Reebok shirt 2 minutes ago.

dickwod1

Mellor wrote: »

This senator has obviously been misguided my her friend "the expert". Fair play to her for putting her hands up and saying she was wrong to jump the gun.
And most of all, fair play to Tubs for handling it so well. He may not be an expert on MMA or a diehard fan but he certainly knows enough about it to respect it as a sport. Shows how far the media has come in the 5 years since UFC 93.

Good thing Ray D'arcy is off the air at the mo or it could have been very different interview

Mellor

This senator has obviously been misguided my her friend "the expert". Fair play to her for putting her hands up and saying she was wrong to jump the gun.
And most of all, fair play to Tubs for handling it so well. He may not be an expert on MMA or a diehard fan but he certainly knows enough about it to respect it as a sport. Shows how far the media has come in the 5 years since UFC 93.