Smith614 wrote: » Everybody differs on these topics but I must say the Ed Coughlan interview was without doubt the biggest load of bollo* I read in a long time. We can quote all the successes with science and then we can mention KK.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Good manager but can you please explain to me what has he actually he won bar a leinster title and league medal Nothing really So I automatically tend favours logic over myth The logic I'll enlighten you is as follows Now ed coughlan has actually got mayo two all ireland final numerous connaught titles Now cian o neill another scientific coach has got tipp all ireland and kerry numerous other credit to he's name Jim mcguinness another science fanatic all ireland success Davy Fitzgerald all ireland and fitzgibbon cup s lit and out of date waterford all ireland final James Mccarthy hugely in to scientific ways got haven county titl win Paudie kissane who study science in physical education watch this space top coach and will be with top intercounty team within three years I heard on good authority you heard it hear first Jerry Wallis hugely scientific and Brough in nutrition and hydration and speed and agility and recovery practical revolutionidee limerick under age hurling Niall moran who was one first I'd guess Brough early morning training and post match annalise team talk with video analyst and nutrition and ice baths to school hurling With Ard scoil Frank flannery brought science to Millford all ireland camoige champions Declan wall hugely in to scientific ways brought good counsel all ireland under sixteen hurling title Ucc who brought annalise in video and nutrition to a high level won fitzgoibbion cup and sigerson Donal o grady used a sport psychologist corl won all ireland as well as Wallis and mcgrath prove their ways work Cork camoige before under Paudie Murray brought in Caroline currid and helped them enormously Is that enough example for you Daly r talking utter nonsense with respect You see he was good manager in other ways but never bought in to modern ways maybe that's why he was good but never great You can trust my astute judgement limerick academy will go backwards under him at best stay same Limerick old school disciples will absolutely give him freedom of limerick imo for preaching old school ways What a load nonsense he spoke Paul kinnerks top example Donie Buckley one greatest modern day football coaching around hugely scientific Jack o connor brought in flangnan Morgan was in to scientific way and introduce warm weather camps and strength conditions at times it was alien to most I could open thread this Daly simply doesn't understand or simply want to understand new ways
N20 wrote: » Interesting comments by Anthony Daly today referring to Managers getting carried away by 'Gimmicks' - now only sound bites in article I saw and a certain slant can always be put on comments but interesting given he's recently left the Dublin set up and interesting in respect of aforementioned piece in Examiner He mentioned a 90/10 split, pure hurling v S&C/diet/ psychology - or at least that was my interpretation of it - I was surprised at how far he leaned to the 'traditional' view Somewhere in middle ground presumably would be a better balance ?
commonsense. wrote: » Have to agree with you. Every team looking for inches to give them an edge but some of this stuff is away with the fairies. Non-dominant eye training???? Jaysus they'll be adding Specsavers to the Dublin backroom team next.
Prop Joe wrote: » If anyone can help me out on some club infohttp://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2057357984
N20 wrote: » Very disappointing result on Friday Conditions were very difficult and the more physical side were able to deal with them better Dayne Lee did try his utmost to bring his team into it, and the Eddie Gunning led backs tightened up second half and Thurles would only have had themselves to blame if they had lost the game Had a levelling point gone over, unfortunately I think Thurles would have prevailed in extra time / replay ? I've seen Dan Gunning a few times and read the incredible reviews here - he is a great prospect but he needs time to mature physically, he's tough but at the moment he's too light and too easily outmuscled by bigger lads - a point from play last 2 matches a poor return from your star forward - Now with the protection of bigger stronger lads around him in a minor set up he might thrive but I was expecting more from him on Friday Again on Friday there was ball wasted over sideline - at times by the strong wind but the goalie sent some of his puckouts over which baffled me and it was the same in O Callaghan Cup - giving away possession needlessly Management are being blamed big time but equally Thurles used the ball poorly in continuing to take pot shots for duration of second half which sailed wide The betting seems to have Thurles favorites now to win it out which is probably a surprise for Ard Scoil Ris I was told this was AGs best team for a while and they won't be as strong again next year - disappointing their run has come to an end this year The other 3 Cork teams have fighting chances and hopefully will prevail on Wednesday
North Cork Star wrote: » Thanks for the positive feedback on my report lads. Much appreciated. I am going to try to become more involved now as I am always an avid reader of these threads. thinkstoomuch1 wrote: North cork star I admire your posts greatly but lot your rating are way way too generous I don't think you actually have given any player a bad rating which imo is unrealistic. They play for cork there entitled to be judged on field of play so giving every Lad good ratings for sake of it no good going forward TTM1, I understand where you are coming from, But at the start of every year I go to these games in the hope we might find one great player in the making. A player with a lot of potential. I try to be positive with the new players as they are adjusting to the level etc. I remember watching Harnedy just a couple of seasons ago. The first few games he looked like he wasn't up to it but JBM kept the faith and it was IMO the challenge game in Kilworth against Limerick where he put his hand up for a starting place. It does take a few games to see the real player. If they don't impress after a while, they are simply not up to it and that is fair enough but you'd never know who can make the breakthrough. When I did make my player ratings, I know no one played outstanding and I did point out a few flaws in the players performances but we will have to wait and see who can make it to the top. Will any of the new lads make it? I don't know. Hopefully. Maybe some other lads can develop at this level. Interesting times ahead! Excellent - the more variety and voices the better I look forward to your posts
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: North cork star I admire your posts greatly but lot your rating are way way too generous I don't think you actually have given any player a bad rating which imo is unrealistic. They play for cork there entitled to be judged on field of play so giving every Lad good ratings for sake of it no good going forward TTM1, I understand where you are coming from, But at the start of every year I go to these games in the hope we might find one great player in the making. A player with a lot of potential. I try to be positive with the new players as they are adjusting to the level etc. I remember watching Harnedy just a couple of seasons ago. The first few games he looked like he wasn't up to it but JBM kept the faith and it was IMO the challenge game in Kilworth against Limerick where he put his hand up for a starting place. It does take a few games to see the real player. If they don't impress after a while, they are simply not up to it and that is fair enough but you'd never know who can make the breakthrough. When I did make my player ratings, I know no one played outstanding and I did point out a few flaws in the players performances but we will have to wait and see who can make it to the top. Will any of the new lads make it? I don't know. Hopefully. Maybe some other lads can develop at this level. Interesting times ahead! Excellent - the more variety and voices the better I look forward to your posts
TTM1, I understand where you are coming from, But at the start of every year I go to these games in the hope we might find one great player in the making. A player with a lot of potential. I try to be positive with the new players as they are adjusting to the level etc. I remember watching Harnedy just a couple of seasons ago. The first few games he looked like he wasn't up to it but JBM kept the faith and it was IMO the challenge game in Kilworth against Limerick where he put his hand up for a starting place. It does take a few games to see the real player. If they don't impress after a while, they are simply not up to it and that is fair enough but you'd never know who can make the breakthrough. When I did make my player ratings, I know no one played outstanding and I did point out a few flaws in the players performances but we will have to wait and see who can make it to the top. Will any of the new lads make it? I don't know. Hopefully. Maybe some other lads can develop at this level. Interesting times ahead!
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: North cork star I admire your posts greatly but lot your rating are way way too generous I don't think you actually have given any player a bad rating which imo is unrealistic. They play for cork there entitled to be judged on field of play so giving every Lad good ratings for sake of it no good going forward TTM1, I understand where you are coming from, But at the start of every year I go to these games in the hope we might find one great player in the making. A player with a lot of potential. I try to be positive with the new players as they are adjusting to the level etc. I remember watching Harnedy just a couple of seasons ago. The first few games he looked like he wasn't up to it but JBM kept the faith and it was IMO the challenge game in Kilworth against Limerick where he put his hand up for a starting place. It does take a few games to see the real player. If they don't impress after a while, they are simply not up to it and that is fair enough but you'd never know who can make the breakthrough. When I did make my player ratings, I know no one played outstanding and I did point out a few flaws in the players performances but we will have to wait and see who can make it to the top. Will any of the new lads make it? I don't know. Hopefully. Maybe some other lads can develop at this level. Interesting times ahead!
wackokid wrote: » Great stuff TTM, but when did John Hayes p1ss in your cornflakes? You seem to come the heavy on this great servant to Cork football.
sean mac wrote: » TTM don't put anything beyond this management team, cussen is there for the league at least. The lads think this is a tactical masterplan. They don't seem to realise that to survive in the bearpit of midfield at intercounty against fellas like maher, moran, mcauley, Gallagher and the osheas you need to be tough physically and mentally, cussen unfortunately is neither. Besides their inability to judge a player at this level and their inability to game manage we still don't have a dedicated football coach.......you couldn't make it up, instead we have each fella doing a bit. Odonoghue would be eaten in a full back line in the summer, cadogan will continuously run into cul de sacs at half back, leave him full and ffs give up with this nonsense of tom Clancy at 3, the man is a born centre back and was beginning to show form again this year after the Kerry debacle. Mark Collins a fine player and despite being light is plenty tough enough but as you said a half forward and imo a good idea for sweeper as he is an excellent footpasser also. Keeper remains a problem, he simply has no confidence in aiming the ball long and he is too easily put off doing this, mentally weak. I don't know where we are going, for relegation anyway and after that it will be a difficult summer. Dan Maceoin - superb left foot, great attitude and worth his place on the squad over any of desmond, durrant, odriscoll or hayes...... I have no fiath for the season ahead and it is simply a shame with the panel available, great to see donncha continue to show what a classy intelligent footballer he is, has anyone ever seen him miss a oenalty?
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » Donncha great penalty taker ....but John Hayes also scored great pressure goals from penaltys in Croke Park....v, Galway in 2005...v, Donegal in 2006 and remember the one against Kerry in 2008 when he had to wait 2 minutes before the kick was taken ....into injury time to draw that semi final ...I think it was one of the greatest pressure kicks ever taking ....about the team at the moment it looks like its the same as last season picking players all over the place ....does this man know anything about putting a settled team together ....
ciarriaithuaidh wrote: » Gary O'Sullivan, UCC midfielder is from Kerry TTM. Will be there or thereabouts with Kerry 21s this year. The rest you are pretty much spot on with although you neglected to mention Tom Hickey from Castleisland and David Harrington from Beara (adrigole I think?) who were both very good today also. Watching UCC in recent seasons I could never figure out why Tomas Clancy never got a real go with Cork..he's been very impressive in Sigerson last couple of years. Surprised to see CIT lose to Waterford today..they were meant to be going well enough under Kissane. Maybe missing a few players.
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » TTM Red FM said this evening that Michael Cussen pulled a hamstring during the week at training ...they started him today but he pulled up again during the first half...
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Ucc should beat tralee if they want to Ucc v cork Morgan v cuthbhert To be honest if ucc actually go for it but that's unknown could and would beat cork Christ half back line was awesome on paper, Dorman, white , and clancy Midfield today was Sean kiely and cork Gary sullivan Half forward line was luke connelly not senior but better than Desmond imo Conor horgan came on sub goaled Clancy sullivan got goal Martin was in goal Davis corner back Culhane and maguire kerry two fine players full back line Subs were brian o driscoll Histon cork brilliant footballer nemo o Donovan nemo , fulnagti Ian maguire surely come in to the starting team Adrian Spillane kerry there as a forward also Ucc have some panel imo and will rattle sigerson again If ucc and I expect them beat tralee then ucc v cork, interesting ucc attuide to the game You won't see Morgan playing half back like Dorman corner back Anyone know Sean flynn that was a sub for tralee today what cork club he's with?? Please
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » With so much talk about burnout in the last few days young Sean O Donoughue is an example ...my god to have those commitments already in the season and its not even 10 days old ...JBM must have great time for him...i think he will be on the u21 football starting 15 as well...not to mention Freshers ..not to mention his club commitments...and all the training ...the GAA season we love it ...it can drive us mad ...but it is what it is 2 games ...
seventh7 wrote: » As we have said from the start of the Harty campaign the sideline and selection has been been very suspect. The inability to play players in their correct position throughout the campaign has been mind boggling. Thurles were fluid and acomplished and were always going to come out on top. When you drop your starting full back Sullivan and centre back Callaghan then you start with a disadvantage. you then isolate your only ball winner Aherne as decoy on the left hand side and you continue to play linear balls down one side of the pitch then you become very predictable and therefore beatable. Instead of making positional switch's the Ag made changes. O leary is not a centre forward at a push he could play half forward, ahern should have been dropped into the middle to break the play. Young Morrissey an excellent hurler was out muscled and he should have not been exposed like this at 15. Lee was excellent his best game yet full of passion and fight. His run for his goal was super. The older gunning is a fine defender but his ball distribution was poor and the over re alliance on the straight ball down the line in my opinion cost the AG the game. Walsh made two errors in the first five minutes and you could see he was in trouble yet they only made the change when the goals had been conceeded. Yes Thurles were the better team the shots count will prove that but it was a game the Gael scoil could have won. Hard to fault Sheehan for the chance at the end to level the game he is after all 15 years old and was under severe pressure.
North Cork Star wrote: » I agree that Haughney's criticism is unjustified. I felt he put in a great shift for the game that was in it. Himself and Tony Kelly had a good battle. Kelly obviously showed glimpses of his class but Haughney did get stuck in IMO and got rewarded with 2 points. Patrick Collins - good puck out with and against wind, made one mistake near end of game when he came off line but didn't deal with high ball coming in, nearly got caught. Other than that, he is young and has great potential. William Kearney - did well, sweeped up a lot of ball, got the ball out, got stuck in, got caught for pace once alright but overall was good. Damien Cahalane - did well again, got a couple of flicks in, didn't give full forward much. Sean O'Donoghue - did okay in fairness, only out of minor, maybe a bit green with had possession. Brian O'Sullivan - I thought he did well, got into it in the second half, won a lot of ball down his wing and laid it off. A bit light but quick. Christopher Joyce - did well, covered his line well, caught a few high balls and his striking is good. Glen O'Connor - did good in fairness, might get caught for pace alright but didn't do too much wrong, cleared a lot of ball. Paul Haughney - as stated above, he impressed, he can improve and adapt to level, get stuck in physically, he has good hands to be fair. Brian Murray - he looked a bit awkward at times in his hurling but got involved in a lot of the play, got stuck in. Peter Kelleher - big man, physical presence and won a couple of high balls and does lack a bit of pace and as stated already, looks to have only one side, which could be improved as Lar Corbett had only one side before, and improved his weaker side. Alan Frahill O'Connor - again is physical but lacking that bit of hurling but did break a lot of ball and laid it off. Alan Walsh - tried hard all through and made good runs but decision making let him down at times, got a good point but was short of final product. Stephen Moylan - he showed well, got a couple of scores, read the break well. Luke O'Farrell - looked dangerous at times, got a typical Luke point in the first point, good at frees in fairness to him. But work still to do, he knows that himself. Dayne Lee - got a good goal in the first half but that was it really. In fairness he is only young and played Harty the day before so credit due to him. Subs: - Darren McCarthy - didn't shine but even though he is light, he did win the ball in a couple of scraps. Great club hurler, would like to see more of him. Brian Lawton - did very well when he came on to be fair to him, has his critics, including myself but got the two important game clinching points. Seamus Harnedy - he showed glimpsed of his class when he came on, another big year for the St. Ita's man. Pat Horgan - a fella who wasn't gonna be up to much yesterday, he wore the black leg warmers when he came on and only one ball came to him but made a lazy attempt to get it into his hand and lost it. I know it is early days but needs to pull up his socks, now a leader, needs to have a big year, he is in his prime years now. Conor O'Sullivan - great to see him back in the red and white of Cork. Great hurler and solid. Hopefully we will see more of him this year. It was an enjoyable outing. It is good to have the hurling back again. We got the win and now we have more game time for lads to impress. We have a couple of nice challenge games ahead and CIT next in the Waterford Crystal Cup!
North Cork Star wrote: I agree that Haughney's criticism is unjustified. I felt he put in a great shift for the game that was in it. Himself and Tony Kelly had a good battle. Kelly obviously showed glimpses of his class but Haughney did get stuck in IMO and got rewarded with 2 points.
North Cork Star wrote: Patrick Collins - good puck out with and against wind, made one mistake near end of game when he came off line but didn't deal with high ball coming in, nearly got caught. Other than that, he is young and has great potential. William Kearney - did well, sweeped up a lot of ball, got the ball out, got stuck in, got caught for pace once alright but overall was good. Damien Cahalane - did well again, got a couple of flicks in, didn't give full forward much. Sean O'Donoghue - did okay in fairness, only out of minor, maybe a bit green with had possession. Brian O'Sullivan - I thought he did well, got into it in the second half, won a lot of ball down his wing and laid it off. A bit light but quick. Christopher Joyce - did well, covered his line well, caught a few high balls and his striking is good. Glen O'Connor - did good in fairness, might get caught for pace alright but didn't do too much wrong, cleared a lot of ball. Paul Haughney - as stated above, he impressed, he can improve and adapt to level, get stuck in physically, he has good hands to be fair. Brian Murray - he looked a bit awkward at times in his hurling but got involved in a lot of the play, got stuck in. Peter Kelleher - big man, physical presence and won a couple of high balls and does lack a bit of pace and as stated already, looks to have only one side, which could be improved as Lar Corbett had only one side before, and improved his weaker side. Alan Frahill O'Connor - again is physical but lacking that bit of hurling but did break a lot of ball and laid it off. Alan Walsh - tried hard all through and made good runs but decision making let him down at times, got a good point but was short of final product. Stephen Moylan - he showed well, got a couple of scores, read the break well. Luke O'Farrell - looked dangerous at times, got a typical Luke point in the first point, good at frees in fairness to him. But work still to do, he knows that himself. Dayne Lee - got a good goal in the first half but that was it really. In fairness he is only young and played Harty the day before so credit due to him. Subs: - Darren McCarthy - didn't shine but even though he is light, he did win the ball in a couple of scraps. Great club hurler, would like to see more of him. Brian Lawton - did very well when he came on to be fair to him, has his critics, including myself but got the two important game clinching points. Seamus Harnedy - he showed glimpsed of his class when he came on, another big year for the St. Ita's man. Pat Horgan - a fella who wasn't gonna be up to much yesterday, he wore the black leg warmers when he came on and only one ball came to him but made a lazy attempt to get it into his hand and lost it. I know it is early days but needs to pull up his socks, now a leader, needs to have a big year, he is in his prime years now. Conor O'Sullivan - great to see him back in the red and white of Cork. Great hurler and solid. Hopefully we will see more of him this year.
North Cork Star wrote: It was an enjoyable outing. It is good to have the hurling back again. We got the win and now we have more game time for lads to impress. We have a couple of nice challenge games ahead and CIT next in the Waterford Crystal Cup! 
Cu Baire wrote: » An absolutely disgraceful cowardly post about a player that was asked to play in a game for no reward.
Cu Baire wrote: » One of your better posts. At least 10% of it makes sense.
