shruikan2553 wrote: » I have yet to see anyone defend extremism. How does boko haram killing 2000 people have anything to do with racism? Some people just have to peddle their agenda.
Donkey Oaty wrote: » What brave soldiers Boko Haram are.
keeponhurling wrote: » France is much closer to Ireland than Nigeria, hence French events get more coverage. At a guess, far more Irish people live in Paris than Nigeria. That would be a big factor
dissed doc wrote: » For example, Angela Merkel was on her new years day address critical of Pegida, who since September were warning about Islamic extremism and the dangers. She wanted it to be pigeonholed as a racist, hate organisation, and to ignore the concerns of the middle ground. Prior to the attacks a few days ago, there have been consistent increases reported in the number of Jewish people leaving France, either to the UK or Israel, due to the massive increase in anti-Jewish violence in france in 2014. Up until now, the lead media has lead the doctrine of passive acceptance. So, this is what I was referring to. Irish media can be excluded as it is generally of little consequence and not investigative. When people now read of the 2000 dead in a massacre, and 2 days earlier four Jewish people were executed in Paris, a day prior 12 journalists executed. All by violent extremists done in the name of Islam, MOhammad or whoever. The largest threat to democracy now and for the future in europe, is the latent presence of Islamic extremists. It is the new Nazism, IMO.
shruikan2553 wrote: » Im still not seeing "Im against religious extremism!" Youre a racist. or How boko haram have anything to do with racism. They are a group who are against the state schools and want faith schools so go around kidnapping girls from schools and shooting up towns. Unless it is white liberals sending them in there, something which I doubt.
bb1234567 wrote: » Not even one story reported on sky news as of yet. I guess a dozen french people dying is more interesting than 2000 poor people dying :mad:
dissed doc wrote: » Yes that is it. People are quite free and quick to criticise christian extremism, or Jewish extremism but the Islamic Defence Force stops any criticism of Islam, like the Sony Defence Force used to be on when anyone criticised the Playstation 2.
dissed doc wrote: » Now, think back to recent major religious events> the endless criticism of Israel and "Zionism" in the summer also in the Irish media, the endless endless criticism of the "bible thumping" christian americans, ridiculed as being primitive and unenlightened. Now, criticise the Islamic extremists and more often than not, you will be labelled as a racist.
dissed doc wrote: » We have recently seen the media in ireland avoids tackling the issue with the same gusto that they lay into with Christians or Jews. I say, let rip with the criticism of Islam for the violence, in the same way people let rip at Christianity for the abortion/paedophilia, or Jews with the actions of Israel. Fair is fair.
RobertKK wrote: » Yes Paris is about 500 miles away and Nigeria much further and France is really a neighbouring country, unlike Nigeria. But sometimes things like Twink's dog makes more news coverage than much more serious and devastating events.
colossus-x wrote: » I heard about this - on sky news, 2 nights ago.
dissed doc wrote: » The largest threat to democracy now and for the future in europe, is the latent presence of Islamic extremists. It is the new Nazism, IMO.
biko wrote: » Unfortunately the strife of regular folks in Africa gets hardly any press in the West. Particularly when its can deemed sensitive/religious, as western media are scared ****less of getting labelled phobic by left.
Baggy Trousers wrote: » And you certainly wont read any articles on how western oil companies have raped Nigeria of it's natural resources causing many of the country's problems.
dissed doc wrote: » Yes that is it. People are quite free and quick to criticise christian extremism, or Jewish extremism but the Islamic Defence Force stops any criticism of Islam, like the Sony Defence Force used to be on when anyone criticised the Playstation 2. Now, think back to recent major religious events> the endless criticism of Israel and "Zionism" in the summer also in the Irish media, the endless endless criticism of the "bible thumping" christian americans, ridiculed as being primitive and unenlightened. Now, criticise the Islamic extremists and more often than not, you will be labelled as a racist. We have recently seen the media in ireland avoids tackling the issue with the same gusto that they lay into with Christians or Jews. I say, let rip with the criticism of Islam for the violence, in the same way people let rip at Christianity for the abortion/paedophilia, or Jews with the actions of Israel. Fair is fair. Bokom Haram is a militant Islamic jihadist movement, it is exactly the equivalent of why people are so quick to jump down the throats of Christians or Jews.
entropi wrote: » I honestly don't see how racism has anything to do with any of this tbh. Its out and out bigotry mixed with a touch of genocide and power struggle. It doesn't matter which of these extremist groups are promoting and carrying out these utterly idiotic attacks, they're still doing it in the name of one thing, religion and religious values. It begs the question: if religion didn't exist, would these things still happen but for a different reason, and that the people scum doing this are just bad to the core?
Grayson wrote: » Bokon Haran are ****s. There's no denying that. They are complete scum. I don't like the lords resistance army either. But then again who does. The only problem arises when people label every Muslim because of the actions of these guys. Just as Christianity isn't representative by the LRA. For what it matters, I think religion is rubbish. All of it. I think people who try to inflict their religious believes on others are idiots. But I don't think most people who defend islam are ignoring the sins of others. The so called "liberals" condemn bigotry and hatred wherever it occurs. And that's quite fair. However a lot of the criticism aimed at Muslims is a blanket criticism. If someone says that all Muslims are evil because of the actions of a few, or if they criticise Muslims but only Muslims, I think that's got some racist undertones.
shruikan2553 wrote: » Probably a mix. Some people are just ***** regardless but if you are being taught something all your life you will believe it. Certain groups of Islam are a lot worse than others As we can see with parts of Christianity over the past decades with education people do eventually learn to pick and choose which parts they follow. A Christian or Muslim from Ireland would tend to be a lot more progressive than one from some African, South American or Middle East countries. Both following the same book but taught it in a different manner. Often the least secular a country is the more backwards laws it will have. Of course there are exceptions in all of this but if you look at lists of the most religious countries and least religious countries there tends to be a pattern.
BlaasForRafa wrote: » I read an article just yesterday about how Nigerian families were being compensated for oil spills caused by shell.
Grayson wrote: » Look at Russia where you can't drive a car if you're gay. Like the other thread title says it's turning into a Christian Saudi.
Highflyer13 wrote: » ^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Russian situation is occuring because of that little twerp Putin and his macho image he likes to promote. That is the only reason. Nothing religious about it imo. Its small man syndrome at a national level.
shruikan2553 wrote: » Something I have learnt is that most countries are ****holes I would rather avoid.
Grayson wrote: » And Texas
Highflyer13 wrote: » Its amazing the lack of coverage this is getting in comparison to the Paris attacks. Surely it should be propelled to the same platform.
