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I was on Amazon(US) earlier today and saw that is up for pre-order GTA V is set for a PC release on the 27th of Jan 2015. It was priced up at $60 which probably means it could be on stream for €60 and cheaper elsewhere.

I feel the 60 mark is a bit steep for a game that will be 1 year and 4 month and 10 days old by the time a PC user can play it. I was expecting maybe it around the 40euro mark.

Saying that it will still sell like hot cakes and ill too pick it up.

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Revoker88

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

That's it cheers

Haven't seen any news on it in ages , I guess there putting all there efforts into witcher 3?

I read somewhere the other day that they said they have two teams working on both games independently so 2077 should not be affected but who knows really,id imagine it has to have some effect on the release date.

Skerries

wotzgoingon wrote: »

A prank call is a prank call but that is a seriously bad thing to do. What happens if they keep getting them type of calls then when someone really needs the police for a serious offence. They be like don't bother going probably another prank call. Boy who called wolf springs to mind.

it is totally a dick move by some gamers doing it, this guy was recording when they invaded his business

Conriocht

Greetings boardsies! I'm returning to PC gaming after years away, and thought I'd say hello. I have to say, a lot has changed in the last few years - there was no such thing as early bleeding access back in the day, for a start! There was no PC gaming sub-forum here either iirc, so that's a nice change. Glad I stumbled upon the place

So is this forum active enough? Is there a boards Steam group? Any other oul lads here?

jaffusmax

Conriocht wrote: »

Greetings boardsies! I'm returning to PC gaming after years away, and thought I'd say hello. I have to say, a lot has changed in the last few years - there was no such thing as early bleeding access back in the day, for a start! There was no PC gaming sub-forum here either iirc, so that's a nice change. Glad I stumbled upon the place

So is this forum active enough? Is there a boards Steam group? Any other oul lads here?

What do you define as old? I'm 35......I think!

Conriocht

Yeah, the "old" was tongue in cheek somewhat! I turn 39 in a few weeks.

nesf

**** me, those minimum specs for Witcher 3: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_pc_system_requirements_are_here/page1

Minimum doesn't mean "barely runs" here but it's an interestingly high bar nonetheless.

Kiith

Not that much of a surprise. They've always had really high specs. I still shudder at the Ubersampling setting in Witcher 2.

abbir

nesf wrote: »

**** me, those minimum specs for Witcher 3: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_pc_system_requirements_are_here/page1

Minimum doesn't mean "barely runs" here but it's an interestingly high bar nonetheless.

Are they really that high though? The minimum processor is 4 years old and the graphics card is 3 years old. The graphics card certainly wasn't top end when it came out.

It's a game that's supposed to be really pushing the hardware after all.

nesf

abbir wrote: »

Are they really that high though? The minimum processor is 4 years old and the graphics card is 3 years old. The graphics card certainly wasn't top end when it came out.

It's a game that's supposed to be really pushing the hardware after all.

The graphics card was better than the top single GPU graphics card that AMD had 4 years ago. If you bought the top end i5 and the top end AMD (sane) GPU then you'd expect better than minimum now, no? CPU especially.

abbir

nesf wrote: »

The graphics card was better than the top single GPU graphics card that AMD had 4 years ago. If you bought the top end i5 and the top end AMD (sane) GPU then you'd expect better than minimum now, no? CPU especially.

I have that processor, it has served me very well. Has great overclocking abilities. But it is 4 years old. The 7870 and 660 are both almost 3 years old and neither of them were high end when released.

Whether to expect "minimum" or not depends greatly on what the developers actually accept as minimum. I think the game will run quite well but if you want all the bells and whistles, in a game that is going to really push hardware, you're going to need newer parts.

nesf

abbir wrote: »

I have that processor, it has served me very well. Has great overclocking abilities. But it is 4 years old. The 7870 and 660 are both almost 3 years old and neither of them were high end when released.

Whether to expect "minimum" or not depends greatly on what the developers actually accept as minimum. I think the game will run quite well but if you want all the bells and whistles, in a game that is going to really push hardware, you're going to need newer parts.

I feel pretty much the same, it's more the sticker shock of seeing a Sandy Bridge i5 as a minimum for the first time for me. Then I think about the equivalently aged laptop specs and I feel very sorry for some people.

abbir

nesf wrote: »

I feel pretty much the same, it's more the sticker shock of seeing a Sandy Bridge i5 as a minimum for the first time for me. Then I think about the equivalently aged laptop specs and I feel very sorry for some people.

Assassin's Creed unity had a 2500k as its minimum CPU too but I hear that game doesn't run very well on anything.

TMG11

Sorry, not allowed to sell games here. Use Adverts.ie if you want to sell these.

Links234

I'm not even worried about Witcher 3, I still need to play the first two

ShadowHearth

Okay, so Origin is being Retarded on me... And they EA wonders why people hate it... :rolleyes:

So I reinstalled Alice Madness Returns as I want to finish it, but it is trying to do that "release date check" and it always fails... Any ideas lads? I love owning games that I cant play...

Revoker88

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

That's it cheers

Haven't seen any news on it in ages , I guess there putting all there efforts into witcher 3?

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-staying-in-the-shadows-for-now/1100-6424517/

Korvanica

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Okay, so Origin is being Retarded on me... And they EA wonders why people hate it... :rolleyes:

So I reinstalled Alice Madness Returns as I want to finish it, but it is trying to do that "release date check" and it always fails... Any ideas lads? I love owning games that I cant play...

Yarr

TerrorFirmer

Those requirements are horse****. An i5 2500K or a Phenom X4? Considering the 2500K is light years ahead of the ancient Phenom....

Metal Gear: Ground Zeroes also has an i5 as it's 'minimum' despite the fact that the game runs fine on my 60 euro Pentium G3258, which is a dual core (it doesn't even have hyper threading).

Call of Duty Advanced Warfare wouldn't even start, giving a message 'your processor does not meet requirements' and closing - once I installed the work around it ran perfectly at 60fps rock solid. Remember COD: Ghosts at launch as well? Refused to start unless you had 6GB ram, even though the game never needed anything remotely near that. :rolleyes:

A 2500K and a 7870 is still a good gaming machine today for games at high settings.

Minimum used to mean if you wanted to run the game at decent framerate at lowish settings....these days minimums actually mostly means if you want to run the game at decent framerate at decent settings.

ShadowHearth

Korvanica wrote: »

Yarr

Actually, I think I am going to have to do it that way now... Still does not work and I could not be ****ed waiting 45min for EA customer support.

Links234

Honestly, I think the "arms race" of more powerful specs, etc has really slowed down over the years, if you follow me? like, it used to be like if your PC was a few years old, it'd really struggle to keep up with current games, but mine's a good 3 years old now I think and it's still a beast that handles anything I can throw at it. I'm looking to get another 2 years out of it before having to upgrade, fingers crossed.

Korvanica

Links234 wrote: »

Honestly, I think the "arms race" of more powerful specs, etc has really slowed down over the years, if you follow me? like, it used to be like if your PC was a few years old, it'd really struggle to keep up with current games, but mine's a good 3 years old now I think and it's still a beast that handles anything I can throw at it. I'm looking to get another 2 years out of it before having to upgrade, fingers crossed.

Agreed, I built my current PC in December 2011. It still runs everything i have thrown at it fine, although not at top graphics but that's a moot point for me.

jaffusmax

Links234 wrote: »

Honestly, I think the "arms race" of more powerful specs, etc has really slowed down over the years, if you follow me? like, it used to be like if your PC was a few years old, it'd really struggle to keep up with current games, but mine's a good 3 years old now I think and it's still a beast that handles anything I can throw at it. I'm looking to get another 2 years out of it before having to upgrade, fingers crossed.

Agreed, I have noticed NVIDIA are more interested in improved power consumption and implementing things like MFAA, DSR and other Features to make their newer cards more attractive.

nesf

Links234 wrote: »

Honestly, I think the "arms race" of more powerful specs, etc has really slowed down over the years, if you follow me? like, it used to be like if your PC was a few years old, it'd really struggle to keep up with current games, but mine's a good 3 years old now I think and it's still a beast that handles anything I can throw at it. I'm looking to get another 2 years out of it before having to upgrade, fingers crossed.

I'm not sure it's changed that much for CPUs. I remember in the 90s there were issues when you needed a 486DX not 486SX for a tiny number of games (this was a rare example of their being current CPUs that couldn't run particular games at all) and again in the 00s when gaming finally moved to dual core processors as standard (though people still could play most games on Pentium 4s for a long time afterwards), but the dual core change happened long after the average CPU was dual core, a lot more than 3 years after their introduction. We're starting to see the move to quad core being standard but again, quad cores have been around forever and I'd be extremely surprised if you couldn't play almost all games on a dual core CPU next year (though it'll steadily become more and more of a limiting factor for performance).

GPUs though, yeah I'd agree that's slowed down a lot.

Kiith

It's been a long time since we've needed more powerful specs tbh. We've been stuck games that were designed for an aging (ancient?) console generation, and even a bog standard pc could play anything released on them.

I'm a bit worried that a lot of developers have lost the ability to properly optimise games now. We've had hardware that was 3-4 times more powerful for so long, optimisation wasn't that big a deal. But now as we see good looking games come out on consoles more often, unless they get properly optimised, minimum specs are going to keep rising.

Hopefully the fact that the consoles are practically pc's anyway, will help keep things reasonable.

nesf

I'd disagree to some extent, I think if you played certain strategy games you wanted to upgrade to a quad core a few years back to get decent performance. Not absolutely necessary but you'd really notice playing on a dual core the last while. If you were chasing the FPS dragon then you probably wanted one for most games.

Sephiroth_dude

EoinHef wrote: »

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-staying-in-the-shadows-for-now/1100-6424517/

Thanks for posting that eoin

Sephiroth_dude

nesf wrote: »

**** me, those minimum specs for Witcher 3: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_pc_system_requirements_are_here/page1

Minimum doesn't mean "barely runs" here but it's an interestingly high bar nonetheless.

40 gigs :O Holy moly

wotzgoingon

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Those requirements are horse****. An i5 2500K or a Phenom X4? Considering the 2500K is light years ahead of the ancient Phenom....

Metal Gear: Ground Zeroes also has an i5 as it's 'minimum' despite the fact that the game runs fine on my 60 euro Pentium G3258, which is a dual core (it doesn't even have hyper threading).

Call of Duty Advanced Warfare wouldn't even start, giving a message 'your processor does not meet requirements' and closing - once I installed the work around it ran perfectly at 60fps rock solid. Remember COD: Ghosts at launch as well? Refused to start unless you had 6GB ram, even though the game never needed anything remotely near that. :rolleyes:

A 2500K and a 7870 is still a good gaming machine today for games at high settings.

Minimum used to mean if you wanted to run the game at decent framerate at lowish settings....these days minimums actually mostly means if you want to run the game at decent framerate at decent settings.

They do that deliberately so you go out and buy a new system even though your existing system will run the game fine.

wotzgoingon

Links234 wrote: »

Honestly, I think the "arms race" of more powerful specs, etc has really slowed down over the years, if you follow me? like, it used to be like if your PC was a few years old, it'd really struggle to keep up with current games, but mine's a good 3 years old now I think and it's still a beast that handles anything I can throw at it. I'm looking to get another 2 years out of it before having to upgrade, fingers crossed.

Korvanica wrote: »

Agreed, I built my current PC in December 2011. It still runs everything i have thrown at it fine, although not at top graphics but that's a moot point for me.

I'm still rocking a 5 or 6 year old system. i7 920 3.9GHz, 12GB Ram, GTX 580 1.5. Running like a champ on a 1080P monitor. Well I have another 1440x900 monitor as well but I sometimes turn that off while gaming.

Shiminay

I think all that goes to Dodger's Animé Bull**** list and stays there never to be seen by mine eyes