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The Andrew formally known as Prince in jep?

Hitchens

"Suggestion of impropriety with minors untrue," says Buckingham Palace after Prince Andrew named in US sex lawsuit

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30659629

this is surprising if it's true

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padd b1975

Losty Dublin wrote: »

An unnamed son of an UK based Queen has been linked to a kiddy fiddler.

Is that better?

Surely not Elton's son??

Pwindedd

weldoninhio wrote: »

In fairness, I doubt very much that Harry has any Windsor blood in him. Spencer and Hewitt.

Yeh they look absolutely nothing like each other :rolleyes:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_02/harrycharles_468x325.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t%3D12756504&h=325&w=468&tbnid=AE1F8gPRjuzJgM:&zoom=1&docid=eiO41zd7bEeYyM&ei=mAyoVNn0CIzV7AatgYH4Dg&tbm=isch&ved=0CD8QMygXMBc

Venus In Furs

padd b1975 wrote: »

Young heterosexual male in sewing wild oats shocker!!

Think that was just mentioned though because there's the misguided notion that he was a virginal young lad.

bnt

I have no idea why this story has popped up again, the allegations date back to 2011 e.g. this article in Vanity Fair.

Fratton Fred

Venus In Furs wrote: »

Think that was just mentioned though because there's the misguided notion that he was a virginal young lad.

Trust me, I know people who remember his time in Portsmouth. Young innocent virgin he was not.

Frankie Lee

bnt wrote: »

I have no idea why this story has popped up again, the allegations date back to 2011 e.g. this article in Vanity Fair.

There is another victim (not Virginia Roberts) of Epstein in court suing him and has named the prince as one of the influential people Epstein forced her to have sex with when she was underage.

Roquentin

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas

bjork

Roquentin wrote: »

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas

bjork wrote: »

Either way, when you lay with dogs don't be suprised when you get fleas

That's Royalwang, let's rotate the board!

Leinsterblue

its pretty ropey stuff, whatever about trial by media (which it won't be) when Prince Andrew counts a man convicted and imprisioned for soliciting underage girls for prostitution as his friend, it smacks of at best poor judgement at worse you could judge his character by who he hangs with, remember also Epstein paid off some of Fergies debts.... like what was that for ?

Roquentin

bjork wrote: »

That's Royalwang, let's rotate the board!

sorry man, didnt read the earlier posts. my bad

wretcheddomain

Even if he didn't commit the crime, he looks like an individual who would commit such a crime.

Birneybau

Cantremember wrote: »

Who's Jep?

It's actually Jepen old sport, the lend ef the raising sen.

Leinsterblue

padd b1975 wrote: »

Young heterosexual male in sewing wild oats shocker!!

Eh.... he's 54

AdFundum

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

He's part of the royal family. He had an over-privileged upbringing so he thinks he can do whatever he wants. The poor lad.

In this case, another word for over-privileged is weird. Really, would you want a royal upbringing. I would think it's horrendous. It's probably better to be growing up on fingernails and freedom than to be sheltered to that extent.

steddyeddy

Pwindedd wrote: »

Yeh they look absolutely nothing like each other :rolleyes:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_02/harrycharles_468x325.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t%3D12756504&h=325&w=468&tbnid=AE1F8gPRjuzJgM:&zoom=1&docid=eiO41zd7bEeYyM&ei=mAyoVNn0CIzV7AatgYH4Dg&tbm=isch&ved=0CD8QMygXMBc

You mean they're both wearing the same outfits? Outfits aren't heritable genetically I'm afraid and can't be used to determine parentage.

bjork

Andrew back to face the music: Prince flies home from skiing holiday amid growing crisis over claims he had sex with under-age girl

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I wonder how many D-Notices and Super- "inaudible"s are flying around.

Beano

does anybody seriously think that he is any kind of legal trouble? Has he even been named as a defendant in any criminal or civil cases?

weldoninhio

Beano wrote: »

does anybody seriously think that he is any kind of legal trouble? Has he even been named as a defendant in any criminal or civil cases?

With the furore over Julian Asange and Britain wanting to extradite him over the rape allegations in Sweden, I'm sure they will comply fully with the U.S. authorities if the same was requested of Andy.

mikom

Do we know for certain that the young lady's name is Jep?

Beano

weldoninhio wrote: »

With the furore over Julian Asange and Britain wanting to extradite him over the rape allegations in Sweden, I'm sure they will comply fully with the U.S. authorities of the same was requested of Andy.

but he hasnt been named as a defendant in any criminal trial so what exactly would they extradite him for?

weldoninhio

Beano wrote: »

but he hasnt been named as a defendant in any criminal trial so what exactly would they extradite him for?

I said "if" the same was requested.

Muahahaha

Its not looking great for him, is it? His buddy Epstein has already been convicted for underage sex and then those pictures of Andy with his arm around the girl thats making the allegations. Obviously thats not proof of anything but it does show he was close to her and it certainly seems like he has a case to answer.

Its about time we had a proper Royal scandal. They're had a free run in the British media for far too long now, the tabloids are almost afraid of reporting on them in any negative way at this stage.

Spook_ie

Sky news reports the girl as being

The woman claims that between 1999 and 2002 she "was forced to have sexual relations with this prince when she was a minor" in London, New York and on a private Caribbean island owned by Epstein.

She is believed to have been 17 at the time - underage in US law.

Age of consent in London is 16, New York 17, Caraibbean varies between 15 and 18

So guilty of what if she was consenting?

weldoninhio

Spook_ie wrote: »

Sky news reports the girl as being

Age of consent in London is 16, New York 17, Caraibbean varies between 15 and 18

So guilty of what if she was consenting?

I think the use of the word "forced" implies that it wasn't consentual.

NSAman

weldoninhio wrote: »

I think the use of the word "forced" implies that it wasn't consentual.

"forced" hmmmm was she held in a confined space ? Something just does not add up. I am sure she enjoyed all the travel and the top class treatment. While young, she was obvious naive or stupid. What were her parents thinking she was doing at the age of 17 travelling the world? Sounds like someone who had a lifestyle and lost it and is now bitter.... but that is just my thoughts.

Have no time for anyone who forces anyone into a sexual relationship, but if forced, why did she continue in this situation?

She was after all above the age of consent?

lazybones32

Hitchens wrote: »

"Suggestion of impropriety with minors untrue," says Buckingham Palace after Prince Andrew named in US sex lawsuit

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30659629

this is surprising if it's true

I've heard talk of this from some time ago...around the time the Jimmy Saville thing broke. It has been said, that the whole thing would have been made Public much earlier but there are possibly Royals or high-level Govt. figures involved also.

We must wait and see...

Muahahaha

Spook_ie wrote: »

Sky news reports the girl as being

Age of consent in London is 16, New York 17, Caraibbean varies between 15 and 18

So guilty of what if she was consenting?

Sky News will do their best to help the Royal Family whatever way they can. Irrespective of whether or not she was under the age of consent her claim is that she was held as a sex slave for three years during which time this happened. The daughter of former Mirror owner Robert Maxwell is implicated as the Manhattan based Madame who facilitated young girls for Epstien.

So far this ain't looking great for Prince Andrew, theres lots to come in this story yet though. The FBI had been keeping tabs on Maxwells daughter for several years so if shes going down shes likely to bring a few with her in a plea bargain if it gets that far.

GalwayGuitar

NSAman wrote: »

"forced" hmmmm was she held in a confined space ? Something just does not add up. I am sure she enjoyed all the travel and the top class treatment. While young, she was obvious naive or stupid. What were her parents thinking she was doing at the age of 17 travelling the world? Sounds like someone who had a lifestyle and lost it and is now bitter.... but that is just my thoughts.

Have no time for anyone who forces anyone into a sexual relationship, but if forced, why did she continue in this situation?

She was after all above the age of consent?

And now realises she can take him to the cleaners. And then can publish her memoirs, talk show appeareances etc. Nice little earner

K-9

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of Man United. I'd stop short of saying they're doing sick twisted **** though.

Luckily Rooney still plays for them and Giggs is coaching them then.

weldoninhio

NSAman wrote: »

"forced" hmmmm was she held in a confined space ? Something just does not add up. I am sure she enjoyed all the travel and the top class treatment. While young, she was obvious naive or stupid. What were her parents thinking she was doing at the age of 17 travelling the world? Sounds like someone who had a lifestyle and lost it and is now bitter.... but that is just my thoughts.

Have no time for anyone who forces anyone into a sexual relationship, but if forced, why did she continue in this situation?

She was after all above the age of consent?

Get onto Bucks Palace, if you are sure that she enjoyed it then it's an open and shut case.

I mean it's not like you'd ever hear of anyone "above the age of consent" being forced to do anything. I'm sure rapists the length and breadth of the country are sacking their lawyers now to use your sterling defence.