sean mac wrote: » TTM, I definitely think cork will win some games in the league but which ones? the away games to the north will be very very difficult.The dubs will look to lay down a marker vs cork, while as you say I can see Kerry taking the league game vs cork somewhat more serious then 2014s charade. Mayo under new management will be desperately seeking a national title for confidence but cork should at least be competitive at home. Do you know who is doing the actual football coaching? I heard an awful rumour that cutbert was but I presumed Flanagan would do what he did with Kerry and actually coach also. I have to wonder how this dynamic is working?? The mass panic of management in calling in half of ballincolligs squad including the Kerry man durrant as well as cussen and kevin canty is an awful sign of a management team floundering in panic. Cuthberts terrible radio interview on redfm would give the indication of a man realising he is out of his depth but that wouldn't fit the character. I notice that the talk from last year of 'entertaining football', 'a bit of flair', 'getting the fans back' and all that bull**** has been dropped and now we are going to do our best which after 2014 was no where near good enough. I think a realistic first 6 months is that cork will have been relegated from division 1 and receive another lesson from Kerry in Killarney. There is simply NO sign of positivitiy, lessons learned or any aspect of an acknowledgement of what is required for this level from the camp, I have huge respect for a lot of the players especially those who were part of the 2010 triumph, I hope but have heard nothing to indicate otherwise that they had the balls to have a conversation with the manager about 2015 and what was required from his end, it was well known during the summer that a lot of players were unhappy with what went on during 2014, I sincerely hope they have had these issues ironed out before we start in less then 2 weeks time.
lukin wrote: » I wouldn't be surprised if we don't even get to play Kerry in Munster next year. It's quite possible that Limerick could beat us (if they beat Clare). We needed Walsh to dig us out of a hole against Tipp this year and he isn't going to be available to Cuthbert in 2015. Regardless I won't be going to Killarney next year as I don't want to sit there and witness a hammering. Cuthbert has made a number of mistakes in his first year that Counihan would never have made despite all his faults. He publicly criticised the players, publicly criticised the opposition and came out with a number of daft statements (e.g. "the Sligo game is our All-Ireland final"). Hopefully he will learn from them but I am not sure he will. Seems to be out of his depth as he only coached at minor level at inter-county and never played senior himself (the only Cork manager never to have done so I think). So what did people expect?
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » I know somebody involved with Clare ..and he told me that they would be fully confident in beating Cork under Cuthbert ....straight up he pulled no punches ....unreal what people think of this man ...i also know a parent of one of the team a player i think got a good break from Cuthbert in 2014 ...yet she said things i could not repeat here about his management style ....all of what i have just wrote is 100% true. Its just so so sad for all of us who love the Cork football team and all Cork teams and who have supported them up and down the country to have no hope what so ever for 2015 ...its just not good enough.
SchoolsFan wrote: » School fan, you speak lot sense and I'll be honest very hard to disagree you what you say in lot of it has logic imo I imo gave this perception I disagree with most views some here think,I imo clearly don't I just disagree if something totally incorrect with no fact back up spoken, all credit to your posts you don't speak nonsense but lot truth and while I may not agree with all you do back up your points with views worth considering. You clearly know the hurling underage scene very well. How do you rate sean Hayes would he deserve be called up cork senior panel or is it too early?? What you make under twenty one scene, in I'm confident, is it justified do you think?? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// TTM the most important point you made about the Cork minors is that only 15 can be picked. Now there is a perception that this is easy but I think this is a skill that separates good from great managers. I for one would not like this thankless task, but I have full faith that Denis Ring will get this right. He is not above learning lessons and playing Shane Bourke full back last year was a mistake which will not be lost on him. In relation to Sean Hayes I really rate him. In the 2012 O'Callaghan Cup final he carried the game single handily to Midleton on a very average Patrician Academy team. He was treated incredibly poorly in the 2013 Munster Championship game against Clare when he was brought on only to be taken off again and at a point when the game was won. This really impacted on him for a while. My analysis of him: Beautiful balance, which allows a clean crisp strike. He can execute the basic skills at a very high pace, which makes him hard to manage. Speed is king, the ability to do simple things at pace is one thing top class players need Great in the air. So good in fact the Cork minors look at him as a full and a centre back Great ability to make space and to work a shot when under pressure, watch his use of the shortened strike, very hard to hook. I would see him as a project player. Maybe not yet ready to start for Cork this year or next, but should benefit from all the training programmes that the Cork seniors do and be included in the seniors on field training. Get him exposed to that standard. In the meantime he should start for the U21's.
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Cu Baire wrote: » "he said both him and cuthbhert would tried dualism again but players weren't up for it" "Jbm would have as course he would seen more players but cuthbhert of course lacked conviction to say no its not working " That sums up some posters' attititudes on here. Two men agree on something one wrong one right. JBM can do no wrong BC can do no right.
ShamoBuc wrote: » If both would try dualism again, both are wrong! The difference is JBM has proven himself at this level and is worthy of another stint while Cuthbert has little or no experience, is clearly out of his depth, is a bluffer, has lost the faith of many a player and will bring Cork football relegation, further embarrassing championship defeats, no direction whatsoever and leave us in crap state for the next manager- all this despite having some seriously talented footballers available to him. But its not really just his fault, I also blame those who thought it a good idea to give him the job in the first place and then put fuel to the fire by keeping him. Maybe that doesn't go well with 'some posters attitudes' but I for one believe it to be 100% true. Nollaig Shona agus ath-bliain faoi mhaise daoibh go léir a chairde !!
Movealong wrote: » This time 12 months ago I stated to fellow GAA colleagues that Cuthbert was an appointment made in the best interest of hurling not football. Too many of the underage dual players were opting for football instead of hurling and Cuthbert's appointment was made by CCB to address this problem. My understating is John Cleary who had also been in contention for the job indicated he was not in favour of dual players and he lost out on the job as a result. He got support from the 'football people' on the selection committee but they didn't hold the balance of power.
Smith614 wrote: » Happy Xmas to all Gaels. We might disagree on here and come to blows at times but we all Cork at heart. Roll on 2015. Can't wait.
It makes sense wrote: » Touching on the subject of refs the cork public also need to Cop on I have been at matches ref by Mcallister and Bermingham who generally let the game go without blowing for everything and people would be screaming out for frees left right and centre. I think these two refs are good for the game and should be applauded for their style.
