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Will you vote in the gay marriage referendum?

Kermit.de.frog

I think it is in May.

I won't because it does not affect me. If they get it passed fair play but I doubt i'm in a minority when I say I have little interest in it.

I think this apathy might be the biggest risk to the referendum and also the appeal of giving the government a harmless (in my view) kicking.

Anyone feel the same way about it? I just could not be bothered. I think it will be like the children's referendum. Very low turnout.

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1123heavy

I shall be voting NO. They can do whatever they like but 'marriage' itself was made to be a sign of a bonding between a man and a woman, not a man and a man or two women. I'm also not liking the bully boy tactics and people putting pressure on everyone else to vote their way by name calling. I have a right to vote whatever way I want and I should not and will not accept abuse from anybody for it.

AudreyHepburn

Daith wrote: »

I'm not, however the Catholic Church as an organisation has made it's stance. It will have no problem saying "If you're a good Catholic vote no"

Luckily most Catholics nowadays are the mindless sheep people would like them to be.

RobertKK

Daith wrote: »

People can vote however they want and people can be judged on how they vote. Same as anything.

The Catholic Church are campaigning for No. Voting for yes would be voting against the Catholic Church though.

In a civilised society, name calling is not a valid reason to vote yes or no. It just antagonises and make the person more set in their ways, that is why judging a person is not constructive. You are voting on an issue, not the voter.

The Catholic Church can campaign no if it wants, one is not voting on the Catholic church.

Willfarman

Normal is just a setting on the dishwasher lad! But now animals falling in love? Holy jasus you were going well...

Akrasia

conditioned games wrote: »

I'll be voting no. Way off the chart to be considered normal behaviour.

All the polling in the last number of years have indicated majority support for giving equal rights to gay people. It's getting to the stage where holding homophobic views is such a minority position that it's no longer considered 'normal behaviour'

It used to be 'normal' that a father could 'marry off' his teenage daughters to increase his own power and influence and the daughters had little or no say in the matter. (it still is in some parts of the world)

Is it 'normal' for someone to strongly believe that women should not be allowed to vote? Or that schools should be allowed to beat children, or that a King is there by divine right...

There is absolutely nothing abnormal about two people of the same sex falling in love. It happens in many species of animal, it has happened in humans for as far back as we have reliable records

Timberrrrrrrr

Willfarman wrote: »

Il be voting and I will be voting No. I can't see why the gays should have the life orielly, they should be tied down like the rest of us.

So you mean you will vote yes :rolleyes:

Sauve

Daith wrote: »

I'm not, however the Catholic Church as an organisation has made it's stance. It will have no problem saying "If you're a good Catholic vote no"

They'll do no end of damage to their organisation if they take that stance. People aren't as mindlessly devoted as they used to be.

Lovely Bloke

Willfarman wrote: »

Il be voting and I will be voting No. I can't see why the gays should have the life orielly, they should be tied down like the rest of us.

then you should be voting yes

Willfarman

Il be voting and I will be voting No. I can't see why the gays should have the life orielly, they should be tied down like the rest of us. Or is it yes I have to vote to ensure that?

Annasopra

Grayson wrote: »

You've been to ireland yeah?

http://www.kilkennyjournal.ie/index.php/news/item/1232-paedophiles-set-to-pose-as-gays-to-marry-and-adopt-kids

This is not the opinion of the vast majority of Irish people.

Daith

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Plenty of practicing catholics will be voting yes. We really shouldnt be stereotyping them and dismissing them.

I'm not, however the Catholic Church as an organisation has made it's stance. It will have no problem saying "If you're a good Catholic vote no"

counterlock

I'll wait to see the wording of the referendum before I decide which way to vote

Annasopra

Daith wrote: »

Voting for yes would be voting against the Catholic Church though.

Plenty of practicing catholics will be voting yes. We really shouldnt be stereotyping them and dismissing them.

Grayson

frankeee wrote: »

The referendum is in Ireland right? Not Alabama

You've been to ireland yeah?

http://www.kilkennyjournal.ie/index.php/news/item/1232-paedophiles-set-to-pose-as-gays-to-marry-and-adopt-kids

AudreyHepburn

I will. It doesn't affect me either but it doesn't have to for me to understand why it's so vitally important to vote and vote yes.

There's no logical reason to vote no or to not vote at all.

Daith

RobertKK wrote: »

People can vote how they want, no one has been appointed to judge anyone who votes either yes or no.

People can vote however they want and people can be judged on how they vote. Same as anything.

RobertKK wrote: »

You see it on this thread, name calling and those who see a yes vote as being an anti religion or anti Catholic church vote

The Catholic Church are campaigning for No. Voting for yes would be voting against the Catholic Church though.

Sauve

Absolutely yes I'll vote, and vote yes. Two people loving each other and wanting to be happy together can only be a good thing.

Annasopra

conditioned games wrote: »

I'll be voting no. Way off the chart to be considered normal behaviour.

....aaaww

Akrasia

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I think it is in May.

I won't because it does not affect me. If they get it passed fair play but I doubt i'm in a minority when I say I have little interest in it.

I think this apathy might be the biggest risk to the referendum and also the appeal of giving the government a harmless (in my view) kicking.

Anyone feel the same way about it? I just could not be bothered. I think it will be like the children's referendum. Very low turnout.

If it was in the constitution that black people couldn't get married and there was a referendum to change that, would you still not vote 'because it doesn't affect you'?

(I'm only presuming that you're not black because you are a frog)

A society that allows discrimination reflects badly on all of us. Enlightened voters should vote for a society that protects the rights of minorities.

theteal

Damn straight I'll be casting my vote. It's embarrassing that such an inequality exists in what is supposed to be a modern society.

Also, the apathy is quite scary. A substantial portion Irish public who actually exercise their vote are elderly bible bashers. While younger people may think the question at hand is a no-brainer, I think there may be some surprise by how close this could be.

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Mod

This is an emotive topic, and these topics usually descend into a snipey bitchfest. Let's try to avoid that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but please convey that opinion in a non aggressive manner. Please do not use inflammatory phrasing e.g. "anyone who votes yes/no/doesn't vote/ is xxxxx". It won't get us anywhere and will get users banned.

If you want to change someones opinion (on either side of the debate) then shouting at them or namecalling is not the way to go about it.

secman

conditioned games wrote: »

I'll be voting no. Way off the chart to be considered normal behaviour.

I too was a dinosaur...... when my daughter came out.... well human nature in me won and i very quickly wised up and realised how backward and futile my feelings on the subject were. Live and let live.... have a beautiful happy grandson now..... pure tonic he is.. he deserves both mammies to have equal rights .
If this leopard can change his spots believe me anyone can....... just saying......

Obviously voting YES

.

MrVestek

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I think it is in May.

I won't because it does not affect me. If they get it passed fair play but I doubt i'm in a minority when I say I have little interest in it.

I think this apathy might be the biggest risk to the referendum and also the appeal of giving the government a harmless (in my view) kicking.

Anyone feel the same way about it? I just could not be bothered. I think it will be like the children's referendum. Very low turnout.

"This doesn't affect me so I won't bother voting."

Welcome to today's self centred modern culture people... I mean feck democracy, right?

Annasopra

ObeyTheSuit wrote: »

Anyone tell me if I can I vote on this from Aus?

And yes, if I can vote on this I will. Quite interested to see what the final count will be.

No. You can't.

RobertKK

The biggest threat to this referendum being passed comes from people on the yes side.
You see it on this thread, name calling and those who see a yes vote as being an anti religion or anti Catholic church vote.

People can vote how they want, no one has been appointed to judge anyone who votes either yes or no.

Timberrrrrrrr

conditioned games wrote: »

I'll be voting no. Way off the chart to be considered normal behaviour.

Explain please.

FWIW I think this will get a massive turnout and the results will be a resounding yes for gay marriage. I don't think there is a person in Ireland who does not know a gay friend or have a gay relative. To even consider for one second depriving them of happiness is imo despicable.

Laneyh

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I think it is in May.

I won't because it does not affect me. If they get it passed fair play but I doubt i'm in a minority when I say I have little interest in it.

I think this apathy might be the biggest risk to the referendum and also the appeal of giving the government a harmless (in my view) kicking.

Anyone feel the same way about it? I just could not be bothered. I think it will be like the children's referendum. Very low turnout.

People didn't understand the people's referendum and nor can children vote.
No matter how badly phrased it is the marriage equality referendum question should be clearcut enough
How would voting or not voting in it give the government a kicking?

Those that it does affect will all vote in favour and I expect a reasonable number of supporters besides.
Low turnout wouldn't mean it won't get passed
It depends on whether those opposed to it are organised and willing to vote in numbers.
It will be interesting to see whether there will be a letter from the bishops or influence from the church to their congregation
I think even quite religious people might just abstain from voting and choose not to get involved but it there is an organised campaign maybe that would change

Has the specific date been set? Things like day of the week will have an influence - particularly for the student vote.

mrsbyrne

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

are you voting no? Tell me why, and if there are actual reasons other than "Because God says so" and "it doesn't affect me" then I might change my mind, but as it is, the "no" side ARE imbeciles.

There is absolutely zero reason for anyone to note no on this issue, none.

Read my original post. It's not a very long thread.

Lovely Bloke

mrsbyrne wrote: »

So this is typical of the attitude and approach that will result in the referendum being defeated.
If you disagree with me your an imbecile.
Not good folks

are you voting no? Tell me why, and if there are actual reasons other than "Because God says so" and "it doesn't affect me" then I might change my mind, but as it is, the "no" side ARE imbeciles.

There is absolutely zero reason for anyone to note no on this issue, none.

frankeee

ken wrote: »

I'll be voting for 2 reasons.
1. I've voted every time I've had a chance since I turned 18.
2. Anything to piss off the god botherer's.(I'll be voting to allow gay marriage).

The referendum is in Ireland right? Not Alabama