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Is it time for a new National Anthem?

lazybones32

I don't particularly agree with our current anthem since I believe there is more to being Irish than going out to fight Saxons. Do we have any other defining feature besides being oppressed?

I'm indebted to those who laboured, fought and struggled to gain Independence but that's surely not the only facet of 'Irishness', is it?

Do you know the entire words of the song as gaeilge and do you know what they mean in English?

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lazybones32

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

I love our anthem, it always beings tears to my eyes!

Does it not talk about fighting despots and not Saxons tho? Can only remember the first verse.

It says about Ireland not being home to despot or slave and marching off to meet the Saxon foe tomorrow.

lazybones32

galwaylad14 wrote: »

While we're at it why don't we just give them a few more counties altogether aswell? Maybe we could all sing God Save the Queen as our new anthem altogther?

Give who a few more Counties? Where are you getting that from?

If the Irish People want GSTQ to be their Anthem, so be it...

Joe prim

DellyBelly wrote: »

They don't have any lyrics. It is instrumental.

Genius Prizewinner . Btw, if we're to have a new anthem, why not just put newlyrics to that great American hymn, "My country, t'is of thee" Lovely tune!?

2395dfys

I wouldn't mind have Darude - Sandstorm as our national anthem

Joe prim

lazybones32 wrote: »

It says about Ireland not being home to despot or slave and marching off to meet the Saxon foe tomorrow.

I think it is really referring to all heavy metal bands, not just Saxon, but most of that genre such as Megadeth and Avenged Sevenfold as well. The RA hate Heavy metal.

diomed

If You Like To Gamble by Motorhead

If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man,
You win some, lose some, all the same to me,
The pleasure is to play, makes no difference what you say,
I don't share your greed, the only card I need is
The Ace Of Spades

Realt Dearg Sec

DellyBelly wrote: »

What's the face about. You got it wrong and I corrected you. Take it on the chin mate!

AHAHAHAHA!!! You're the gift that keeps giving.

Links234

What's wrong with our current one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WhhSBgd3KI

Teyla Emmagan

I can only see one mention of the word 'Saxon' in the English version, but it doesn't seem to appear in the Irish version (which is the only one ever sung). Not that my Irish is great, but I can't see any particular foe named in the last verse. Maybe it was made a bit more PC on translation? "Gall" means foreigner I think.

http://www.irishlinks.co.uk/irish-national-anthem.htm

Saipanne

DellyBelly wrote: »

What's the face about. You got it wrong and I corrected you. Take it on the chin mate!

Please stop pwning yourself.

CrabRevolution

lazybones32 wrote: »

It says about Ireland not being home to despot or slave and marching off to meet the Saxon foe tomorrow.

For someone who starts a whole thread about our anthem, I'd have thought you'd know anything about it.

Amhrán na bhFiann is the name of the song which consists of 3 verses and a chorus. The chorus, and only the chorus is our national anthem. Can you point out where in the chorus (and hence in our national anthem) Saxons are mentioned?

Even if you were to push it and say "its the same song, the sentiment is the same". The Anthem is officially the Irish version, which still has no mentions of Saxons. The line people like yourself love to quote (which isnt even part of the Anthem) is in the 3rd verse near the end: "Out yonder waits the Saxon foe". That same line in the Irish version is "Is an bíobha i raon na bpiléar agaibh". Which as far as I can see translates to "and the enemy is within range of your bullets".

who the fug

Given we drink stout and love curries, we need something we can fart to

c_man

I think it's grand. Though if the lyrics offend people then maybe we can change it. How about just an instrumental anthem, may as well keep the current one, and instead of signing we can all just hum along. Sound good?

Galwayguy35

Thread needs a poll.

who the fug

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Thread needs a poll.

As in a hornless bovine, which tastes great when fried with black pepper and chillies

lazybones32

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

I can only see one mention of the word 'Saxon' in the English version, but it doesn't seem to appear in the Irish version (which is the only one ever sung). Not that my Irish is great, but I can't see any particular foe named in the last verse. Maybe it was made a bit more PC on translation? "Gall" means foreigner I think.

http://www.irishlinks.co.uk/irish-national-anthem.htm

"Gall" (pronounced 'gowl') is a foreigner but it is very unlikely they were speaking of all foreigners and not just British. No other foreign Nation tried to rule Ireland.

who the fug

lazybones32 wrote: »

"Gall" (pronounced 'gowl') is a foreigner but it is very unlikely they were speaking of all foreigners and not just British. No other foreign Nation tried to rule Ireland.

So where did we get Galloglas from, and before that them Scandinavian raping and a pillaging lads

And don' t start of DeDannan oppressing poor firbolgs

the dark phantom

No. Its a fine anthem. Are the Americans ashamed of fighting the British ??? Seems like a lot of Irish are ashamed that we had to fight for our freedom !!

gormdubhgorm

This should be our national anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqT6_TkU6Q

Donkey Oaty

If we ditched the dull intro verse and just kept the chorus, the song below would get my vote. The lyrics are open to interpretation, but I think they sum up Ireland's history and give us a great positive message for the future.

Badly Drunk Boy

lazybones32 wrote: »

I don't particularly agree with our current anthem since I believe there is more to being Irish than going out to fight Saxons. Do we have any other defining feature besides being oppressed?

What does it matter what the lyrics say (anymore)? National anthems are usually fairly out of date and are fairly meaningless in the modern world. I mean...the Dutch national anthem mentions their loyalty to the King Of Spain!

Pat Mustard

I like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71wdsTqkfM

Maximus Alexander

I think the national anthem should be replaced by Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off".

Then we should revise it on a biennial basis henceforth. Keep it current.

Molester Stallone II

John Cage's 4'33" for piano, is the perfect national anthem for us

corner of hells

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I think the national anthem should be replaced by Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off".

Then we should revise it on a biennial basis henceforth. Keep it current.

Fine idea , sir .Though I believe changing it every month might be entertaining .I propose starting with "O Flower of Scotland " for January.

floggg

MadsL wrote: »

Nice bit of Brit-bashing 7/10

Even if you love Britain that's a stupid anthem.

The song meant to represent a whole nation is a call to protect one rich old lady.

If I was a Brit id feel short changed.

Realt Dearg Sec

c_man wrote: »

I think it's grand. Though if the lyrics offend people then maybe we can change it. How about just an instrumental anthem, may as well keep the current one, and instead of signing we can all just hum along. Sound good?

If only we could translate it into some language nobody understands, so that it would just be some gibberish we mumble before sporting events...that would solve the problem straight away but alas, life isn't that simple.

JaseBelleVie

I'm only half-Irish, but I still swell with pride when I hear Amhrán na bhFiann being played. No way should it be changed.

And as for this Ireland's Call bollocks. :mad:

Davidius

I think it's grand. It's a nice tune.

corner of hells

JaseHeath wrote: »

I'm only half-Irish, but I still swell with pride when I hear Amhrán na bhFiann being played. No way should it be changed.

And as for this Ireland's Call bollocks. :mad:

What other nationality half are you and do swell with pride when you hear its anthem ?