josip wrote: » Would Dun Laoghaire have many leisurely passing through cyclists?
trishasaffron wrote: » I have some non perishable food items to donate. Any idea where in Dun L might b interested?
Cookie_Monster wrote: » plenty passing through but stopping, I don't really think so. I never would have stopped in DL. Dalkey / Monkstown are nicer places to stop if I'm out on the seafront. But usually it's into the Wicklow hills and stop at Glencree or Laragh, both see huge business from cyclists in my experience.
Gareth Keenan wrote: » there might be more if the Sutton 2 Sandycove cycle path ever gets finished.
josip wrote: » I think I'm more likely to see nuclear fusion in my lifetime than a completed Sutton to Sandycove cycle path unfortunately
Qualitymark wrote: » (Puffing out cheeks and holding breath hard) http://www.tolerance.ca/ArticleExt.aspx?ID=244329&L=en
Qualitymark wrote: » And if Dun Laoghaire's mystery route into its centre ever gets changed and it's restored into a normal town that you can drive (or cycle) straight through and stop conveniently for a shop or a visit.
Chinasea wrote: » Totally against a "drive" through town. Dun Laoghaire and Sligo were one of the only towns in Europe to ever have pedestrianisation reversed which was such a short-sighted losing decision egged on by the Dun L Business Ass. Look at Gorey, Kilkenny and so on. Could be very pleasant and safe/family friendly towns if only the ble*din cars were redirected or parked up outside the high streets. Galway works well.
Chinasea wrote: » Totally against a "drive" through town. Dun Laoghaire and Sligo were one of the only towns in Europe to ever have pedestrianisation reversed which was such a short-sighted losing decision egged on by the Dun L Business Ass.
josip wrote: » Would you still be in favour of busses and taxis passing through the town? What streets would you (re)pedestrianise and from where?
Chinasea wrote: » Lower Georges Street. The stretch is so short there is no real need for buses to pass through, however some towns incorporate 'rising bollards'. Solutions can usually be found where there is genuine will.
Qualitymark wrote: » Dunno; when I lived in Dun Laoghaire as a kid it was a town you could get to from either end, and you could go through without being lost. Now, living elsewhere I go to Sandycove or Seapoint. I very, very rarely go into the shopping streets of Dun Laoghaire, because the strange one-way system gives me the uneasy feeling that if I get in there I may never get out. I assume a certain number of other people who might otherwise shop and wander and dip into bookshops and drapers and cafes may feel the same.
ted1 wrote: » How do you feel about not being able to drive down grafton street?
Qualitymark wrote: » Fine. But Dun Laoghaire is a maze. If you drive into town, you park on the street or in a parking building and walk around a series of streets with shops, restaurants, etc. If you drive into Dun Laoghaire you get into a nightmare loop. I may be the only one who feels like this, however; are there figures on how the Dun Laoghaire shops have done since this confusing one-way system was instituted? Has business improved for them?
ted1 wrote: » It coincided with a recession so no
Qualitymark wrote: » Really? When was the one-way system instituted?
Qualitymark wrote: » I A Dutch friend gave me a lift a while ago and said "We'll hop on to the motorway here; I always avoid the next town because they have changed to a one-way system and I get lost there every time. I used to shop there all the time, but now I go to another town." I can't remember what the two towns were, but she had exactly the same reaction as myself.
Tabnabs wrote: » I think it would be correct to blame "pedestrianisation" (mind that bus) for the demise of M&S in Dun Laoghaire, for example. It is interesting to note that before their closing, they were offering services to assist customers to get their shopping to their cars. Clearly recognition that convenient parking (like every other shopping district) is the key to successful retail.
Larbre34 wrote: » There is a large car park just 2 minutes walk from what was M&S.
josip wrote: » Are you referring to Bloomfields?
Larbre34 wrote: » Yes, not free I know, but always with spaces available. Spend €30 in Tesco and you park free.
Larbre34 wrote: » It would not be correct, they were very busy, the reason was widely known to be a rent dispute with the freeholder.
"the retail sector outlook has not improved and we have to act now to protect the long term good of the company. We have carried out a strategic store review and it is with regret that we are now closing four unprofitable stores.
Chinasea wrote: » I'm lost, I don't follow. I like the Dutch they like to cycle.
Tabnabs wrote: » You have a source for this? Because I can find no evidence to back up that statement. In fact according to M&S themselves;http://www.checkout.ie/Retail/m-s-to-close-tallaght-mullingar-dun-loaghaire-and-naas-stores-in-the-coming-weeks.html
