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Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

lazygal

Does anyone know anything about this organisation? Where it is funded from and by whom? Who runs it? Why it gets such a platform? I've been digging around a bit but its very difficult to find out anything about it.

I'm also mystified as to why David Quinn appears so often representing a relatively new body which seems to be largly self-appointed and why he is allowed such a platform.

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lazygal

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Mysterious that the LORD yet again fails to provide...

Mysterious indeed that the Lord doesn't simply stop gay marriage, abortion and whatever else David's"institute" is agin.

MrPudding

PopePalpatine wrote: »

IIRC I heard that paying someone very little (i.e. <~€0.50) via Paypal or a bank transfer actually results in a net loss for the receiver. It would make sense given that I've seen notices in shops, restaurants and pubs saying the minimum payment is €5 or €10.

... Just saying like... Not suggesting a Nationwide campaign or anything...

MrP

Bobby42

I don't think this make iona look good at all. Bad time of year to be raising funds to discriminate against people.

Loads of charities raising funds at the moment. Charities like Focus Ireland and Dublin Simon looking to raise money to help the homeless.

One comment I saw summed it up perfectly - Homeless people literally dying on the street and this group are raising money to fight against marriage equality.

Whats their slogan, your ten euro donation will ensure a gay couple will stay unmarried.

PopePalpatine

Bobby42 wrote: »

I don't think this make iona look good at all. Bad time of year to be raising funds to discriminate against people.

Loads of charities raising funds at the moment. Charities like Focus Ireland and Dublin Simon looking to raise money to help the homeless.

One comment I saw summed it up perfectly - Homeless people literally dying on the street and this group are raising money to fight against marriage equality.

Whats their slogan, your ten euro donation will ensure a gay couple will stay unmarried.

I'd say it would be some PR-friendly waffle about "ensuring respect (read: deference) for this country's Christian heritage".

Mr_A

Donate today: https://soundcloud.com/fintan-otoolbox/an-urgent-appeal-on-behalf-of-the-pharisee-institute

fisgon

Nice parody from Tara Flynn here...

eyescreamcone

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I'd say it would be some PR-friendly waffle about "ensuring respect (read: deference) for this country's Christian heritage".

Our non-Christian heritage is a lot longer and more colourful than our christian heritage I'd imagine

oscarBravo

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/why-i-just-cant-believe-in-stephen-frys-illconsidered-atheist-outburst-30968948.html

David "I'm not a homophobe" Quinn mistakes sophistry for actual cleverness.

fisgon

oscarBravo wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/why-i-just-cant-believe-in-stephen-frys-illconsidered-atheist-outburst-30968948.html

David "I'm not a homophobe" Quinn mistakes sophistry for actual cleverness.

Basically, without god you cannot have morality or free will. Absolutely no justification for this claim, it is simply stated as fact. It's the same old nonsense from Quinny, trying to pick holes in Fry's position, where there are absolutely no holes.

Meanwhile, he mentions the Problem of Evil, which Fry alludes to in his interview, and in fairness Quinn lays it out pretty clearly. What he doesn't do, of course, is offer any explanation as to a solution for the problem of evil for believers. Because there is none.

5uspect

I see people are starting to refer to Iona as Lolek Ltd, their company name. Can we make this a thing?

MrPudding

5uspect wrote: »

I see people are starting to refer to Iona as Lolek Ltd, their company name. Can we make this a thing?

I much prefer the idea of making €0.01 donations via PayPal.

MrP

5uspect

MrPudding wrote: »

I much prefer the idea of making €0.01 donations via PayPal.

MrP

Why not both?

Pherekydes

5uspect wrote: »

I see people are starting to refer to Iona as Lolek Ltd, their company name. Can we make this a thing?

I still prefer the iOnanists.

robindch

oscarBravo wrote: »

David "I'm not a homophobe" Quinn mistakes sophistry for actual cleverness.

And I submit that you are mistaking error for policy.

PopePalpatine

oscarBravo wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/why-i-just-cant-believe-in-stephen-frys-illconsidered-atheist-outburst-30968948.html

David "I'm not a homophobe" Quinn mistakes sophistry for actual cleverness.

I see he's copying fellow Definitely-Not-A-Homophobe-Or-Else-I'll-Sue-Your-Quare-Arse John Waters in that aspect.

Cabaal

Lolek Ltd are really branching out!

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/02/09/swerve-2/

Cabaal

Lolek Limited to Iona's wikipedia page...doubt it'll last long

Its only right people can easily obtain all info about them after all

lazygal

^^^Is that liberal bias at work there?

silverharp

i like the "institute" is not a protected term in Ireland , reminds me of Dara O'Brien's Dentist (protected term) versus toothioligist

PopePalpatine

silverharp wrote: »

i like the "institute" is not a protected term in Ireland , reminds me of Dara O'Brien's Dentist (protected term) versus toothioligist

IIRC, isn't the same true of "nutritionist"?

Stark

PopePalpatine wrote: »

IIRC, isn't the same true of "nutritionist"?

Yup. Dietician is the protected term.

Calina

Stark wrote: »

Yup. Dietician is the protected term.

* prickles *

dietitian

Brian Shanahan

With the recent discussion in thread, I petition for the mods to change the thread name to:

Lolek Ltd.: The artists formerly known as Iona Institute.

Edit: with apologies to Prince of course.

PopePalpatine

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

With the recent discussion in thread, I petition for the mods to change the thread name to:

Lolek Ltd.: The scam artists formerly known as Iona Institute.

Fixed. :pac:

spurious

Does anyone know how many members make up the II - would it be in double figures?

robindch

spurious wrote: »

Does anyone know how many members make up the II - would it be in double figures?

I always had them down as about the same size as a bad-tempered dinner party.

Cabaal

So if lolek Ltd is their registered name, what's stopping somebody registering Iona Institute as a limited company name?

PopePalpatine

Cabaal wrote: »

So if lolek Ltd is their registered name, what's stopping somebody registering Iona Institute as a limited company name?

That sounds like a great idea for a strip club.

Brian Shanahan

PopePalpatine wrote: »

That sounds like a great idea for a strip club.

A gay strip club perhaps?

FouxDaFaFa

Days later I realise that Lolek sounds like LulzSec and that's why I feel like I've heard it before.

That was driving me mad.