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Official Conor McGregor Thread (READ MOD WARNING IN OP)

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OK guys,

The dust has cleared on the disaster that was the last thread. The biggest culprits won't be joining us here (Or anywhere else on the forum). Others have been warned in PMs.

This thread is a clean slate for everyone but there will be zero tolerance on it.

I remind all users to take a fresh look at the charter before posting here.

FIGHTER BASHING OF ANY KIND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

It doesn't take a Masters in English to know the difference between a negative opinion of somebody and name calling.

This Thread is for all things about Connor that won't go into event threads. I.E. all speculation about opponents, his twitter posts, public appearances and media.

Once a fight has been announced and an event named all news relating to that fight can go into the event thread.

My own opinion on McGrogor vs Sanchez (Finally), this is an awful fight for sanchez I think. Especially if he loses to Connor at WW he is finished. Diego gets by with half decent striking and wrestling and the rest on athleticism and aggression.

Conors footwork is just too good to be held against the fence and isnt that much smaller than Diego. If Connor loses he'll probably get his wrist slapped by Dana and told to wise up and stick to 145, worst case scenario. Diego has much much more to lose in this fight and I think his emotions will get the best of him and we'll see something similar to Brimage.

But being honest I don't see the fight happening. Dana is probably getting a bit sick of fighters calling opponents out so publicly and he and his match makers will still want to be seen as the ones pulling the strings.

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Ian Whelan

Don't you think that Aldo would have to be stupid to agree to this? He's the champ. His number 1. demand would surely be that McGregor would have to come to him or that the fight would be in the US.

It would be like Chelsea agreeing to play Man City for the premiership title in Manchester City's own stadium. 98% of the fans would cheering against him. I just can't see why Aldo would ever agree to it. If it happens then it's evidence that the UFC are doing all they can to hand McGregor the title.

Mellor

scudzilla wrote: »

100k people paying €60 a ticket or 50k people paying a MINIMUM of €70 with an average price of around 150.

It'll smash any record, no doubt about it

€70 minimum? Would be shocked if they bumped them that high.
I think the O2 started around €50 too. If the back sections are considerable worse. I'd imagine they'll stay at €50, and they average price could even come down as the nose bleeds make up more proportionally. I'd say it'll be 5-6 million gate.

Even so, 50k people paying €150 on average. Is probably still behind the largest concerts.

scudzilla

Mellor wrote: »

Not necessarily. They've had european title fights before.
The alternative, is that it happens in Melbourne, McGregor is also been suggested for that event too.

Sporting event probably. But not ANY event.

There's been plenty of concerts with well over 100k people. Slane, Robbie Williams, Eminem. I doubt the UFC could catch up with those events. That's not including 2/3 day events obviously.

100k people paying €60 a ticket or 50k people paying a MINIMUM of €70 with an average price of around 150.

It'll smash any record, no doubt about it

Mellor

dulux99 wrote: »

The other thing about a stadium show, would be what time of the day it would take place. If it's a 60k stadium show for a UFC title then it would have to be a numbered PPV, and the UFC will always cater for their American PPV market, because that's their big money spinner.

Not necessarily. They've had european title fights before.
The alternative, is that it happens in Melbourne, McGregor is also been suggested for that event too.

scudzilla wrote: »

As for Gate Reciepts, it will smash ANY event EVER held in Ireland, no question

Sporting event probably. But not ANY event.

There's been plenty of concerts with well over 100k people. Slane, Robbie Williams, Eminem. I doubt the UFC could catch up with those events. That's not including 2/3 day events obviously.

scudzilla

The more i think of a stadium fight the more i think it will happen, look at Wembley Stadium, how many fights over the years has that held, most of them 80k sell outs.

As for the time, it will be a normal start (undercard 17:30, main card 20:00), they'd never get a license for a late one (e.g. Sweden)

I'd say it'd be a Fox card, broadcast on tape delay in the U.S, Fox would love it, an Irish guy fighing for the title in Dublin in front of 50k mad irishmen, ya can't buy that publicity.

As for Gate Reciepts, it will smash ANY event EVER held in Ireland, no question

dulux99

The other thing about a stadium show, would be what time of the day it would take place. If it's a 60k stadium show for a UFC title then it would have to be a numbered PPV, and the UFC will always cater for their American PPV market, because that's their big money spinner.

RainMaker

Stuxnet wrote: »

So if it was Croker and 80K odd seated tickets sold,

a) Pity the fools miles up at the back and top of the stadium
b) Pity the fools seated miles from the octagon placed at the centre of the field ie. everybody..?
b) Will the field surrounding the octagon be empty...space for 20 thousand fans...so now are we looking for 100k tickets..not a chance...aviva it is

Bring it back to the O2, practically cageside I was the last event, it was graaaand ! Stadium would be cool, but I feel the fans might be placed to far from the action ?

Plus the high probability of rain if they had it in a stadium here - nothing to do with my username, just saying like....

Redditor

MagicIRL wrote: »

Keep your roll eyes to yourself.

MagicIRL

Redditor wrote: »

McGregor to take vow of silence.

:rolleyes:

Keep your roll eyes to yourself.

Redditor

McGregor to take vow of silence.

:rolleyes:

ASOT

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Even if the UFC are looking to book a stadium, there's nothing to say they have intentions of selling the full capacity. They can use 'sold out arena' as a
tagline to inflate Conor, while for either stadium not opening the top tiers or altering the set up to reduce the capacity on the night.

I guess we'll know on January 19th.

Exactly this point, in reality though it wont just be selling to the Irish, depending on how strong the card is people will basically travel from all over Europe imo because of how easy it is to get to Dublin and usually how cheap it is. But exactly well see what its announced either way whatever they do I think it will sell out.

EuskalHerria

Even if the UFC are looking to book a stadium, there's nothing to say they have intentions of selling the full capacity. They can use 'sold out arena' as a
tagline to inflate Conor, while for either stadium not opening the top tiers or altering the set up to reduce the capacity on the night.

I guess we'll know on January 19th.

Oregano_State

I think Croke Park is far too big for a UFC fight, even the front row in the stands would be miles from the cage. The aviva would be a much better choice, but huge screens would still be needed. 50k in the stands, about 10k on the pitch. Sorted.

Mellor

Saipanne wrote: »

Valid points, maybe tv screens above the octagon might be needed.

There's screens above the octagon at all events.

Saipanne

Stuxnet wrote: »

So if it was Croker and 80K odd seated tickets sold,

a) Pity the fools miles up at the back and top of the stadium
b) Pity the fools seated miles from the octagon placed at the centre of the field ie. everybody..?
b) Will the field surrounding the octagon be empty...space for 20 thousand fans...so now are we looking for 100k tickets..not a chance...aviva it is

Bring it back to the O2, practically cageside I was the last event, it was graaaand ! Stadium would be cool, but I feel the fans might be placed to far from the action ?

Valid points, maybe tv screens above the octagon might be needed.

Stuxnet

So if it was Croker and 80K odd seated tickets sold,

a) Pity the fools miles up at the back and top of the stadium
b) Pity the fools seated miles from the octagon placed at the centre of the field ie. everybody..?
b) Will the field surrounding the octagon be empty...space for 20 thousand fans...so now are we looking for 100k tickets..not a chance...aviva it is

Bring it back to the O2, practically cageside I was the last event, it was graaaand ! Stadium would be cool, but I feel the fans might be placed to far from the action ?

themandan6611

i think the UFC are doing just fine. Many of these lower quality cards have produced some very good fights / cards (Oz) , some (mainly in Brazil) have been poor., imo the more MMA on the better

They strick me as a progressive organisation and i have no doubt they will keep evolving

ASOT

Mellor wrote: »

That's a pretty good suggestion.
The same amount of fights put on, but promoted better.

The Penultimate Fighting Championships

Yeah id say it could have worked in that sense, they may have missed a big opportunity in my opinion. It means newer fighters getting alot more promotion before moving to the UFC, allowing them to gather a following etc and for fans to become familiar. Then with fight pass it could have taken off even more. Basically what WWE use NXT for in Pro Wrestling, gather a fan base for there NXT stars before transitioning them into the WWE main rosters.

In theory they could set up a promotion now and start doing this at some point but obviously I dont think they would do it for various reasons. Seems to be happening with Invicta, with that being on fight pass iv managed to get to see a few events and getting familiar with some of the fighters then its only a matter or time before there signed to the UFC.

Mellor

ASOT wrote: »

Well if I was implementing it id keep the WEC events solely in the USA as it would make more business sense with the UFC brand obviously going to sell alot better outside the USA. Then with the fighters coming through the WEC in theory all cards would have been stronger.

That's a pretty good suggestion.
The same amount of fights put on, but promoted better.

The Penultimate Fighting Championships

ASOT

Mellor wrote: »

The idea if a feeder promotion makes a lot of sense on paper. But if it ends up being 1 PPV, 1 Fight Night, 1-2 WEC events per month, is there much difference?

And, if UFC dublin had if been a WEC event, would it have been as memorable?

Well if I was implementing it id keep the WEC events solely in the USA as it would make more business sense with the UFC brand obviously going to sell alot better outside the USA. Then with the fighters coming through the WEC in theory all cards would have been stronger.

Mellor

The idea if a feeder promotion makes a lot of sense on paper. But if it ends up being 1 PPV, 1 Fight Night, 1-2 WEC events per month, is there much difference?

And, if UFC dublin had if been a WEC event, would it have been as memorable?

ASOT

dave1982 wrote: »

I think closing WEC was a mistake if UFC had planned on some many events, they should have opened up more divisions in the WEC get the so far "unknown" fighters some hype behind them, then maybe if there is a dominant champion in the WEC who defends the tile lets say 3 times he get automatic title shot at the Champion in their division in the UFC, Champion V Champion are huge fights, we had them with the merger of Pride and the UFC.

If the kept WEC open and had less UFC PPV's there would be more excitement, the American paying $50 now for events must be pissed compared to what $50 got them few years back where any fight on the card could be a main event

Yep exactly, all this new talent they have coming in from each countries could have gone under the WEC, then they took there pick form the best along with doing the champion v champion matches would have been fairly awesome idea, obviously costs would be an issue but im sure it wouldnt be that big of a factor. Like the way the WWE uses NXT now for all there development talent.

dave1982

I think closing WEC was a mistake if UFC had planned on so many events, they should have opened up more divisions in the WEC get the so far "unknown" fighters some hype behind them, then maybe if there is a dominant champion in the WEC who defends the title lets say 2-3 times he get automatic title shot at the Champion in their division in the UFC, Champion V Champion are huge fights, we had them with the merger of Pride and the UFC.

If the kept WEC open and had less UFC PPV's there would be more excitement, the American paying $50 now for events must be pissed compared to what $50 got them few years back where any fight on the card could be a main event.

At end of the day the UFC is a business they are there to make money at the moment the are lacking PPV draws, Conor is definitely going to be there No1 PPV draw

Saipanne

MagicIRL wrote: »

Is this now the casual MMA chat thread or what's the story? I'm so confused.

Honestly, what do you expect, given the provocative posts by the "anti-band wagoner" group?

ASOT

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

Well I wouldn't blame the above poster regarding Pendred.

He has to be one of the most boring fighters in all MMA

He needs to improve everywhere imo, has tons of heart though as everyone keeps raving about. But 9/10 times heart wont win you a fight. Taught he lost to Umalatov and seems to get caught an awful lot. His fight against Spencer should tell a fair story of how hes going to get on.

MartyMcFly84

Well I wouldn't blame the above poster regarding Pendred.

He has to be one of the most boring fighters in all MMA

With one of the best come backs ever in the UFC winning him a FON bonus which was subsequently doubled ... right.

Cyber Ghost

Well I wouldn't blame the above poster regarding Pendred.

He has to be one of the most boring fighters in all MMA

Ash.J.Williams

csallmighty wrote: »

I have no problem with it but I don't really like how some people gained an interest only in McGregor and don't bother with the rest of the Irish fighters or mma in general.

That's not how it works

MagicIRL

Is this now the casual MMA chat thread or what's the story? I'm so confused.

Foxtrol

Mellor wrote: »

July is always the busiest with Fight week. 6 events that month. But 45 for the year, which is less than 4 a month on average. I'd prefer 25-30 events per year personally but going back to 6 events per year like sone would suggest would stifle the sport massively.

This sums up the irony of MMA fans.
On one hand complaining about too many events, but on the other supporting McGregor and Irish fighters getting a chance. It's one or the other.

An event every 2 months is about 72 fights per year. If fighters fight 2-3 times a year, that means there's room for 6-9 per division, and that's if they drop 115 women and 125 men.
There be no room for up and coming fighters to prove themselves. So no McGregor, no Khabib, no VanZant :eek:

Sure, sometimes the 2nd rate events aren't worth watching. But they are necessary to figure out how to build the stacked cards.

Also ironic that for years Irish MMA fans complained that they hadn't come back to Ireland, do they really think if they were restricted to one event a month/two months that Ireland would have a chance of getting an event this year again next year? They really want everything.