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Official Conor McGregor Thread (READ MOD WARNING IN OP)

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OK guys,

The dust has cleared on the disaster that was the last thread. The biggest culprits won't be joining us here (Or anywhere else on the forum). Others have been warned in PMs.

This thread is a clean slate for everyone but there will be zero tolerance on it.

I remind all users to take a fresh look at the charter before posting here.

FIGHTER BASHING OF ANY KIND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

It doesn't take a Masters in English to know the difference between a negative opinion of somebody and name calling.

This Thread is for all things about Connor that won't go into event threads. I.E. all speculation about opponents, his twitter posts, public appearances and media.

Once a fight has been announced and an event named all news relating to that fight can go into the event thread.

My own opinion on McGrogor vs Sanchez (Finally), this is an awful fight for sanchez I think. Especially if he loses to Connor at WW he is finished. Diego gets by with half decent striking and wrestling and the rest on athleticism and aggression.

Conors footwork is just too good to be held against the fence and isnt that much smaller than Diego. If Connor loses he'll probably get his wrist slapped by Dana and told to wise up and stick to 145, worst case scenario. Diego has much much more to lose in this fight and I think his emotions will get the best of him and we'll see something similar to Brimage.

But being honest I don't see the fight happening. Dana is probably getting a bit sick of fighters calling opponents out so publicly and he and his match makers will still want to be seen as the ones pulling the strings.

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MrStuffins

yipeeeee wrote: »

And?

What harm are they doing?

You either didn't read the post correctly or completely misunderstood the point!

burkey85

And sorry, not just his fights, more interest in the divisions in general

burkey85

Im the same, watched it all the time while living overseas, better time difference!!
But have definitely started watchin more of it since mcgregor has gotten bigger

markcahill1985

Is it really such a bad thing though? I was a casual MMA fan a few years back but sort of lost my way with it when the likes of Chuck, Tito and Randy retired or moved on from the UFC - since Conor got back on the scene I have become a huge fan and more so than before- have watched most cards this year. Wihtout Conor emerging I dont think I woud have got back into it.

Cyber Ghost

Same with anything where Irish are concerned.
Don't know where this thing is we're a "nation of begrudgers" came from.
Quite the opposite in fact. If any Irish person starts doing remotely well at anything everyone jumps on the bandwagon.
And it doesn't even have to be Irish.
I remember when Chelsea started winning titles under Mourinho half the scumbags in cork were going around in Chelsea jerseys

Saipanne

super_furry wrote: »

It's the same with boxing though. The big personalities, the big performers attract the public attention. How many people who went to see Steve Collins fight would have ever stepped inside the National Stadium?

Same with gaa. Otherwise you'd see 70,000 at league matches.

super_furry

csallmighty wrote: »

I have no problem with it but I don't really like how some people gained an interest only in McGregor and don't bother with the rest of the Irish fighters or mma in general.

It's the same with boxing though. The big personalities, the big performers attract the public attention. How many people who went to see Steve Collins fight would have ever stepped inside the National Stadium?

Mellor

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

The month of July next year is a joke for events.

Event on the 11th, 12th, 15th and 18th, 25th (and one more date TBC). 4 events in one week. Seriously?

Not a million miles off 8 events in a month.

July is always the busiest with Fight week. 6 events that month. But 45 for the year, which is less than 4 a month on average. I'd prefer 25-30 events per year personally but going back to 6 events per year like sone would suggest would stifle the sport massively.

crybaby wrote: »

I would much rather watch a stacked card every 2-3 months than maybe be interested in one fight per month.

This sums up the irony of MMA fans.
On one hand complaining about too many events, but on the other supporting McGregor and Irish fighters getting a chance. It's one or the other.

An event every 2 months is about 72 fights per year. If fighters fight 2-3 times a year, that means there's room for 6-9 per division, and that's if they drop 115 women and 125 men.
There be no room for up and coming fighters to prove themselves. So no McGregor, no Khabib, no VanZant :eek:

Sure, sometimes the 2nd rate events aren't worth watching. But they are necessary to figure out how to build the stacked cards.

Mr. Manager

Mellor wrote: »

There's typically 1 PPV per month, and 2 or 3 other events. Next year, will be 45 events total.
No where near 8 per month, that would be disastrous.

The month of July next year is a joke for events.

Event on the 11th, 12th, 15th and 18th, 25th (and one more date TBC). 4 events in one week. Seriously?

Not a million miles off 8 events in a month.

crybaby

Mellor wrote: »

There's typically 1 PPV per month, and 2 or 3 other events. Next year, will be 45 events total.
No where near 8 per month, that would be disastrous.

Even that is too much though, all of these mad fight nights cards that just seem to pop up out of nowhere and are clearly based around a single fight are just not up to a high enough standard. I would much rather watch a stacked card every 2-3 months than maybe be interested in one fight per month.

ASOT

dave1982 wrote: »

main event is scrapped there is a good chance whole card is cancelled cause its not strong enough with out.

That's also wrong considering there's only ever been two canclled events. In fairness to them they have done quite well to replace some injuries in recent months that looked disastrous.

I do agree that it could be less Saturated, it doesn't necessarily bother me though. The only thing that reall does is two mediocre cards on the same them when they could easily be put into one decent event ala the Australai and Brazil events earlier. Obviously the Australian event turned out to be a cracker though so it made up for the half card!

Mellor

dave1982 wrote: »

I preferred MMA 3-4 years ago there is too much much of it now and hard to follow, I'd prefer 8 big events a year now we get nearly 8 events a month.

There's typically 1 PPV per month, and 2 or 3 other events. Next year, will be 45 events total.
No where near 8 per month, that would be disastrous.

csallmighty

Saipanne wrote: »

I sense that people in this thread don't want Mma to become big or mainstream. Would that be true?

I have no problem with it but I don't really like how some people gained an interest only in McGregor and don't bother with the rest of the Irish fighters or mma in general.

osl

Saipanne wrote: »

I sense that people in this thread don't want Mma to become big or mainstream. Would that be true?

It seems a lot of fanatical people give out about bangwagoners. Personally I try to jump on a few bandwagons every week. Great craic, I've never understood the hatred towards them.

dave1982

Saipanne wrote: »

I sense that people in this thread don't want Mma to become big or mainstream. Would that be true?

I preferred MMA 3-4 years ago there is too much much of it now and hard to follow, I'd prefer 8 big events a year now we get nearly 8 events a month.Its too much cards are watered down if main event is scrapped there is a good chance whole card is cancelled cause its not strong enough with out.

UFC was good because few years ago any fight on the vard could be a main event, not anymore.

I'm not a huge Conor fan but he is a breath of fresh air for the UFC

yipeeeee

MrStuffins wrote: »

Just today i've seen 3 different people sharing a Conor McGregor hype video posted by Joe.ie (or someone) on Facebook and not a single one of these people would have ever watched an MMA event before that didn't involve Conor McG! There are easily tens of thousands of others who would buy a ticket to see Conor and then crawl back into their caves if he lost.

And?

What harm are they doing?

Dtp1979

Saipanne wrote: »

I sense that people in this thread don't want Mma to become big or mainstream. Would that be true?

Saipanne

I sense that people in this thread don't want Mma to become big or mainstream. Would that be true?

ASOT

MrStuffins wrote: »

Thing is, I don't think MMA will be huge at all. I think people will get behind Conor because, as someone else in the thread said, there are an awful lot of bandwagoners in this country!

Conor loses, and MMA goes back to being Cage Fighting and nobody really cares anymore. Sure there'll be a load more fans naturally, but there won't be any more stadium shows!

I dont know, the more people that get into it now start training and competing it will only grow, it wont be as big as GAA/Rugby/Football but itl be fairly big i think, well it can grow that big the way its going.

Mellor

TimRiggins wrote: »

They'll make prob over 5 million on ticket sales alone. Plus PPV will be bought in America regardless of what time its at.

Ticket revenue is tiny compared to PPVs. 5 million gate is massive. But it's a tiny PPV. He needs to sell about 20million in PPV to be considered a successful event.

A "Brock" event does 50 million.

csallmighty

ASOT wrote: »

No I believe its bare knuckle boxing Joe, Bloody barbaric lots of deaths in the cage.

Its like human cock-fighting. There's no rules at all.

MrStuffins

Thing is, I don't think MMA will be huge at all. I think people will get behind Conor because, as someone else in the thread said, there are an awful lot of bandwagoners in this country!

Conor loses, and MMA goes back to being Cage Fighting and nobody really cares anymore. Sure there'll be a load more fans naturally, but there won't be any more stadium shows!

ASOT

MrStuffins wrote: »

Just today i've seen 3 different people sharing a Conor McGregor hype video posted by Joe.ie (or someone) on Facebook and not a single one of these people would have ever watched an MMA event before that didn't involve Conor McG! There are easily tens of thousands of others who would buy a ticket to see Conor and then crawl back into their caves if he lost.

Yep its the Joe Sport one, its actually really really good. Same as myself loads of people sharing it from women to men who would all pay to see him. MMA will be huge in Ireland hopefully in the next few years and as much as it will pain certain people to say it its all down to McGregor, unreal stuff!!

jimmii

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I wouldn't say there's even 80,000 mma fans in Ireland

I wouldn't say I was an mma fan but would be interested in any large sporting event like that at croker and I think a lot of people would feel the same.

MrStuffins

Just today i've seen 3 different people sharing a Conor McGregor hype video posted by Joe.ie (or someone) on Facebook and not a single one of these people would have ever watched an MMA event before that didn't involve Conor McG! There are easily tens of thousands of others who would buy a ticket to see Conor and then crawl back into their caves if he lost.

ASOT

MrStuffins wrote: »

Doesn't need to be. Just need to sell 80000 "cage fighting" tickets.

No I believe its bare knuckle boxing Joe, Bloody barbaric lots of deaths in the cage.

MrStuffins

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I wouldn't say there's even 80,000 mma fans in Ireland

Doesn't need to be. Just need to sell 80000 "cage fighting" tickets.

Dtp1979

ASOT wrote: »

There doesnt have to be, I didnt think there was 400000 Garth Brooks fans in Ireland yet thats how many tickets were sold. It wouldnt just be Irish people going to it anyway, Dublin is basically a hub city and easily reachable from every part of Europe, if it was a numbered event without a doubt 1000s will travel for it.

Well I bought 395,000 garth tickets. That explains that one

ASOT

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I wouldn't say there's even 80,000 mma fans in Ireland

There doesnt have to be, I didnt think there was 400000 Garth Brooks fans in Ireland yet thats how many tickets were sold. It wouldnt just be Irish people going to it anyway, Dublin is basically a hub city and easily reachable from every part of Europe, if it was a numbered event without a doubt 1000s will travel for it.

Dtp1979

MrStuffins wrote: »

I don't agree with that. Nobody wants to watch a non-live sports event if they can help it, and they certainly ain't going to pay $55 to watch it either. If it's live, it'll be in the afternoon, far from ideal. It'll knock PPV buys for sure.

80000 tickets is a lot, but you're not gonna sell 80000 at premium prices. Tickets will have to be sold at affordable rates.

MGM Grand holds 17000 or so. I had bought pretty average seats for Jones v Gustafsson and they were $300 just about. Good seats were $1000. No way you're charging $1000 for a seat in Croke Park. They'll be Fight Night prices.

This coupled with the fact that McGregor will be a relatively big PPV draw (Even if Aldo isn't) will mean they'll want PPV sales.

I wouldn't say there's even 80,000 mma fans in Ireland