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Ever been in a car crash?

ScummyMan

Driving back to college this evening, narrow enough road between Tipp Town and Limerick with bends everywhere. Got caught behind a Corsa going slow enough, not crazy slow mind you, around 70km/h. Some lunatic stuck behind me decides to overtake both me and the Corsa, coming towards a bend on a solid white line.

Of course just as he was passing me a car comes round the corner towards him. He had nowhere to go it looked like there was a head on at speed coming. I slammed on the brakes and he managed to squeeze in between me and the Corsa and skid into the hard shoulder, but there was literally inches in it.

Not going to lie it shook me up a bit, I'm not driving long and that's the closest I've come to a crash. I can only imagine how terrifying an actual crash is, anyone have any similar stories?

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Ben D Bus

As a small child (before seat belts, never mind child seats) we got read ended and I got thrown from the back seat between the front seats & hit the dashboard. No serious injuries.

And back in the 90s a small lane changing incident on Elvis Presley Boulevard in Memphis, resulted in a written off rental car and a lift to our motel in a Memphis PD cruiser. Again no injuries (and plenty of insurance!) thankfully.

rainbow kirby

Was on a 46A that managed to have a side-on collision with a truck in Stillorgan about 10 years ago, truck parked just before the left turn onto the northbound side of the dual carriageway near Oatlands. Bit of metal sticking out the back of it, bus driver didn't see it, piece of metal took out all the downstairs windows. Thankfully there were only 5 passengers on it, all upstairs at the time, but enough to give everyone a bit of a fright!

GLaDOS

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

I think there is something wrong with her/him with these type of comments!

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

You seem like a very angry person, perhaps you should see a therapist?

Leave out the personal comments

jimgoose

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Ah fools.....

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

But perhaps it is all in the name!

WS

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then you open up with the .50-cal and take out their trucks. Then you win.

-- Mahatma Gandhi's slightly psychotic cousin.

Knasher

Once as I was stopped outside my parents house waiting for a truck to pass in the opposite lane so I could turn across. My indicator was on, but the house is after a (very gradual) bend. A teenager on a provisional license, who was on the road for less than a week, rear ended my car with enough force to render his a complete write off, my car was also written off, it wasn't in that bad condition but the frame was bent so there was no way it would ever pass its next NCT. I guess we were very lucky, my two sisters were in the car with me, and he had three of his friends in with him, and nobody was seriously hurt.

ShowMeTheCash

jimgoose wrote: »

You certainly do get plenty thickos. But I think you refer more to angry fools brake-testing people who "disrespect" them on the motorway than people who keep their speed down as they deem necessary, not suiting certain individuals behind them.

With the best will in the world, I think most of these kind of comments are said in a spirit of "experience teacheth fools, but by Cheeses the tuition fees!"

Ah fools.....

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

But perhaps it is all in the name!

WS

jimgoose

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

As already explained, you get little boy racers but you also get people on the road who deliberately obstruct both.

You certainly do get plenty thickos. But I think you refer more to angry fools brake-testing people who "disrespect" them on the motorway than people who keep their speed down as they deem necessary, not suiting certain individuals behind them.

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

I think there is something wrong with her/him with these type of comments!

With the best will in the world, I think most of these kind of comments are said in a spirit of "experience teacheth fools, but by Cheeses the tuition fees!"

twin_beacon

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Of course! I am not condoning such behavior! I just don't agree with your assertion that it's a justifiable provocation for other people to act the a.sshole. On both occasions I mentioned above when such idiots nearly wound up being hosed down off the road, I was driving at an appropriate speed given that we were on winding country roads which were narrow and had plenty of blind spots etc. I didn't slow down intentionally to inflame anyone, but nonetheless they were irate because in their heads I was going to slow. Was there an onus on me to speed up to try to calm them down and avoid a dangerous situation?

I think you misread some of my posts, there is nothing wrong with what you did, in what I have highlighted in bold. I talking about people that intentionally slow down to piss off the driver behind them, as an earlier poster said.

Took great delight recently in keeping a boyracer behind me on the winding road from Killarney as far as Derricunnihy.

ShowMeTheCash

OldNotWIse wrote: »

It's really very simple. Either you think I am under an obligation to speed up or you don't. If I don't speed up, am I being "obtuse"? Is that a thinly veiled way of saying I should? So, should I "budge" or shouldn't I?

If you've no interest in someone's personal circumstances then you also have no business making assertions about their character or personality.

I don't know what "axe" you are referring to tbh, perhaps you could enlighten us or in the alternative, try not to invent stuff about posters you don't like.

You seem like a very angry person, perhaps you should see a therapist?

ShowMeTheCash

jimgoose wrote: »

A liability? Because she makes a call on her speed to suit the prevailing conditions as she sees them, and this doesn't suit some young cowboy behind with too much engine up-front and sod-all between his ears? I'm afraid the only component responsible for what becomes of you and your car is the nut between the seat and the steering-wheel.

You should hear my mother's views on what should ideally become of some of the sham-can gang! :pac:

As already explained, you get little boy racers but you also get people on the road who deliberately obstruct both.

Anyone with the attitude

OldNotWIse wrote:

No sympathy when these f.uckers go out and smear themselves on the road

OldNotWIse wrote:

Sadly, they managed to get away uninjured. Better luck next time.

I think there is something wrong with her/him with these type of comments!

OldNotWIse

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

You clearly have an axe to grind and a definite "bad" attitude to other drivers.
That's why I think you are a liability, also no one said you need to speed up but you apear to be deliberately obtuse which in itself can be a problem. The "I won't budge" even if it helps attitude won't get you very far!

Your personal circumstances I have no interest in.

It's really very simple. Either you think I am under an obligation to speed up or you don't. If I don't speed up, am I being "obtuse"? Is that a thinly veiled way of saying I should? So, should I "budge" or shouldn't I?

If you've no interest in someone's personal circumstances then you also have no business making assertions about their character or personality.

I don't know what "axe" you are referring to tbh, perhaps you could enlighten us or in the alternative, try not to invent stuff about posters you don't like.

ShowMeTheCash

OldNotWIse wrote: »

How exactly am I a liability? Because I don't speed up for joyriders? By the way, I was nearly orphaned by joyriders. My Mum had to be cut out of her car and spent months in hospital. The inebriates who crashed into them (in a stolen car) attacked and immobilised my Dad with an iron bar so that he couldn't call for help. I don't care if they do themselves in. No loss. You will not move me on this point, nor do I care what you think.

You clearly have an axe to grind and a definite "bad" attitude to other drivers.
That's why I think you are a liability, also no one said you need to speed up but you apear to be deliberately obtuse which in itself can be a problem. The "I won't budge" even if it helps attitude won't get you very far!

Your personal circumstances I have no interest in.

jimgoose

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Well not that I agree with anything that OldNotWise says as he comes across as a liability on the road...

A liability? Because she makes a call on her speed to suit the prevailing conditions as she sees them, and this doesn't suit some young cowboy behind with too much engine up-front and sod-all between his ears? I'm afraid the only component responsible for what becomes of you and your car is the nut between the seat and the steering-wheel.

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

...and somewhat sick to take some kind of satisfaction or pleasure in people he deems to "deserve it" getting killed or injured on the roads...

You should hear my mother's views on what should ideally become of some of the sham-can gang! :pac:

OldNotWIse

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Well not that I agree with anything that OldNotWise says as he comes across as a liability on the road and somewhat sick to take some kind of satisfaction or pleasure in people he deems to "deserve it" getting killed or injured on the roads.
But slowing down can only reduce the chances of an accident happening, you may argue that it increases the chances of the boy racer to over take or get angry...But in reality most accidents happen when people are travelling at speed... It is not to say an accident can't happen it simply makes it less likely.

How exactly am I a liability? Because I don't speed up for joyriders? By the way, I was nearly orphaned by joyriders. My Mum had to be cut out of her car and spent months in hospital. The inebriates who crashed into them (in a stolen car) attacked and immobilised my Dad with an iron bar so that he couldn't call for help. I don't care if they do themselves in. No loss. You will not move me on this point, nor do I care what you think.

OldNotWIse

twin_beacon wrote: »

you are right, the law will always rule in favour of the victim. But that isn't my point. What good is having the law on your side, if you are seriously injured, paralyzed or killed in a crash?
Lets say, like in the situation I originally quoted, a boy racer speeds up behind me, very eager to overtake. I slow down in spite of them, as a result they obviously get frustrated and even eager to overtake, and try to overtake when they shouldn't, causing a crash. In the eyes of the law, the person overtaking is 100% in the wrong, me slowing down in front added to their frustration.

There are LOTS of idiots on the road, and you don't have to just worry about your own driving. Why make a dangerous situation even worse? How will slowing down, actually improve the situation?

Of course! I am not condoning such behavior! I just don't agree with your assertion that it's a justifiable provocation for other people to act the a.sshole. On both occasions I mentioned above when such idiots nearly wound up being hosed down off the road, I was driving at an appropriate speed given that we were on winding country roads which were narrow and had plenty of blind spots etc. I didn't slow down intentionally to inflame anyone, but nonetheless they were irate because in their heads I was going to slow. Was there an onus on me to speed up to try to calm them down and avoid a dangerous situation?

twin_beacon

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

But slowing down can only reduce the chances of an accident happening, you may argue that it increases the chances of the boy racer to over take or get angry...But in reality most accidents happen when people are travelling at speed... It is not to say an accident can't happen it simply makes it less likely.

Driving, and maintaining the same low speed definitely reduces crashes. However, showing down in spite of a driver behind you, to the point where its obvious the driver behind knows what you are doing is not a good idea, as it just pisses off the driver behind. Once they are pissed off, their emotions run high, and their desire to overtake greatly increases, to the point where they may engage in an overtaking maneuver that they normally wouldn't attempt.

From my experiences, if I'm driving at 100kph, and I'm behind a car maintaining 80kph, I will want to overtake when I can, but in a normal and safe manner. Likewise if I'm behind a car doing 50kph, (you do actually meet a lot of people like this in the west), I'll overtake in a normal and safe manner. However, if I'm behind a car, that was travelling at 80kph, then drops to 50kph and I know its in spite of me, it would piss me off. I must say, in all honesty, I don't think it has ever actually happened me though.

People that do "slow down" usually do it if they are being tailgated, which is such a stupid thing to do if you want to over take, as you cant accelerate to overtake until you are on the other side of the road.

As bad a slowing down in the instances I mentioned, its not as bad as the idiots that "speed up" when being overtaken.

Cupcake_Crisis

Once as a passenger on the way to Galway. Qe got lost and ended up on a back road, fairly dark and a little boy racer comes speeding up towards us. She swerved to avoid a head on collision, but the car toppled 2 or 3 times and ended up upside down on the side of the road. Little boy racer politely kept driving. She totally wrote off her car, but she probably saved all our lives. No major injuries, just a few bumps and bruises.

chupacabra

Was driving with a friend down a very narrow road in a deep valley on the Dingle peninsula a few years ago. We were going way too fast and came over the crest of a hill to find a car coming straight at us. Veered off the road and into a ditch, came within inches of a thick tree branch piercing my head. Locals pulled us out but that day I came pretty close to death. Hasnt changed my life in any way :pac:

ShowMeTheCash

twin_beacon wrote: »

you are right, the law will always rule in favour of the victim. But that isn't my point. What good is having the law on your side, if you are seriously injured, paralyzed or killed in a crash?
Lets say, like in the situation I originally quoted, a boy racer speeds up behind me, very eager to overtake. I slow down in spite of them, as a result they obviously get frustrated and even eager to overtake, and try to overtake when they shouldn't, causing a crash. In the eyes of the law, the person overtaking is 100% in the wrong, me slowing down in front added to their frustration.

There are LOTS of idiots on the road, and you don't have to just worry about your own driving. Why make a dangerous situation even worse? How will slowing down, actually improve the situation?

Well not that I agree with anything that OldNotWise says as he comes across as a liability on the road and somewhat sick to take some kind of satisfaction or pleasure in people he deems to "deserve it" getting killed or injured on the roads.
But slowing down can only reduce the chances of an accident happening, you may argue that it increases the chances of the boy racer to over take or get angry...But in reality most accidents happen when people are travelling at speed... It is not to say an accident can't happen it simply makes it less likely.

twin_beacon

OldNotWIse wrote: »

I disagree, though you are entitled to your opinion. The law will more than likely favour the one who was the victim of reckless driving or assault under section 3, rather than the driver who was provoked or the puncher who had mean things said to him.

Re "feeling stupid for having provoked someone" - I don't think my feelings about a hypothetical situation are at all relevamt in the context of a discussion about the rights and wrongs of reckless driving, assault and where the line is on provocatioin.

you are right, the law will always rule in favour of the victim. But that isn't my point. What good is having the law on your side, if you are seriously injured, paralyzed or killed in a crash?
Lets say, like in the situation I originally quoted, a boy racer speeds up behind me, very eager to overtake. I slow down in spite of them, as a result they obviously get frustrated and even eager to overtake, and try to overtake when they shouldn't, causing a crash. In the eyes of the law, the person overtaking is 100% in the wrong, me slowing down in front added to their frustration.

There are LOTS of idiots on the road, and you don't have to just worry about your own driving. Why make a dangerous situation even worse? How will slowing down, actually improve the situation?

Galwayguy35

Had 2 crashes, the first was back in 1997 went in through a wall but thankfully I walked away from it.

Second time was during the big freeze a few years ago skidded on ice and spun around the road 3 times until I hit the ditch.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Been a passenger in a few. Travelling with someone who turns cars onto its roof as a hobbie. My boyfriend crashed his in February, but neither of us were hurt.

I got rear ended twice.

I crashed into my brother on a narrow lane on a bend, but it was more a tip than a crash.

I skidded on black ice two winters ago and busted the front of my car.

And I almost crashed into someone head on because I was speeding and some knackbags drove their car out of an estate right in front of me and I had to swerve into the path of an oncoming jeep, who luckily for me could see what was about to happen and mounted the footpath, leaving me enough room to shoot out between them

Littlekittylou

jimgoose wrote: »

It'll come. Remember the literal translation of "Kung-Fu".

I don't but I am googling it as we speak! :-)

Fresh Pots

Not a crash crash, but I have had a minor collision with a truck. Was in its blindspot and he tried to come into my lane. Bit of damage to the side of the car but nothing too seruious. Driver was decent and admitted liability on the spot. Makes me a bit more wary of trucks these days.

jimgoose

Littlekittylou wrote: »

I have a learners and have had a few lessons. But no I would not consider myself a driver. I am very nervous about the whole thing.

People think it's very weird. But I wouldn't drive unless I was secure that I was a confident and competent driver.

It'll come. Remember the literal translation of "Kung-Fu".

Littlekittylou

jimgoose wrote: »

Do you drive at the moment, Kitty?

I have a learners and have had a few lessons. But no I would not consider myself a driver. I don't drive at all. I am very nervous about the whole thing.

People think it's very weird. But I wouldn't drive unless I was secure that I was a confident and competent driver.

jimgoose

Tail Docker wrote: »

This driving malarky sounds dangerous.

Only for dyed-in-the-wool hooligans like you, TD;)

Tail Docker

This driving malarky sounds dangerous.

jimgoose

Littlekittylou wrote: »

I have never been in a car crash. I have strangely a fear of driving?? And certain cars. Or fast drivers.

I would like a go on a motorbike but I'm afraid.

Yeah this was worth posting.

Do you drive at the moment, Kitty?

Littlekittylou

I have never been in a car crash. I have strangely a fear of driving?? And certain cars. Or fast drivers.

I would like a go on a motorbike but I'm afraid.

Yeah this was worth posting.