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N7 - Newlands Cross upgrade

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RichardoKhan

Not long to Thursday......ps anyone else having trouble with the out of date image from the Green Isle Camera on SDCC site?

paulbok

The opening ceremony was probably announced so suddenly for today, so the rent a mob wouldn't have time to organize a protest out there

Tragedy

MJohnston wrote: »

I don't commute there often, but in my experience, it's not the dropping down to 2 lanes that causes the problem, it's all the traffic merging on from Naas.

That's one cause. It can (and frequently is) unpleasantly slow and stop/start between Naas and the M9.

delahuntv

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Because its simply moving the issue from Newlands to Naas where 3 lanes go into 2.
At least with the lights at Newlands Cross, there was a break in the traffic for those coming on at Jn2 onwards, Now its going to be constant.

God help those who commute from Portlaoise everyday.

Eh as I said in a previous post - the overpass does not only open for an hour every morning/evening.

I've heard the same ridiculous argument every time a road project opens. - and lo and behold, it never ever comes true.

Guess what - the overpass is open 24 hours a day!! - Imagine that!

The motorist going over at 4pm saves time and gets to Naas a few minutes earlier, as does the motorist going over at 4.15pm and 4.30 pm etc etc etc.

There won't be any garda at the ball in Naas stopping these motorists in order to make sure they don't get home earlier and to make sure that the 5pm motorists don't piggy back on the 4pm motorist being well out of the way!!

Also, not all motorists are going past Naas - some go to Naas, Kill, Rathcoole, Newcastle, Sallins etc etc.

So stop the Catastrophe Syndrome (yes it is a syndrome and yes a huge number of Irish people suffer from it) and wait for it to open - you might be surprised!

Then again, why stop the national pastime of whinging?

MJohnston

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Because its simply moving the issue from Newlands to Naas where 3 lanes go into 2.
At least with the lights at Newlands Cross, there was a break in the traffic for those coming on at Jn2 onwards, Now its going to be constant.

God help those who commute from Portlaoise everyday.

I don't commute there often, but in my experience, it's not the dropping down to 2 lanes that causes the problem, it's all the traffic merging on from Naas.

Dubliner28

jd wrote: »

Why would free flow make the traffic worse? There'll be a steady stream of traffic, rather than large waves as the lights change between red and green. The upgrade to 3 lanes is in planning, and can't be commenced until the government approves funding to the NRA.

Because its simply moving the issue from Newlands to Naas where 3 lanes go into 2.
At least with the lights at Newlands Cross, there was a break in the traffic for those coming on at Jn2 onwards, Now its going to be constant.

God help those who commute from Portlaoise everyday.

diomed

I travel Dublin-Newbridge-Dublin every Thursday. Nice.

ukoda

When they say Thursday morning...I'm assuming they mean it will be open for the morning traffic?

ongarboy

There was a clip about the opening on Morning Ireland this morning just before the weather (around 7:45am) where it was discussed along with the topic of PPPs not necessarily meaning tolls. You probably can catch it on RTE Radio Player. They also confirmed Thursday opening to the public with the ceremonial opening today.

Mrs Dempsey

screamer wrote: »

And the biggest chokepoint in the country is set to move to Kill, when traffic chokes at Naas as 3 lanes become 2, and no one in the NRA had to foresight to upgrade that before now, freeflow my ass.

In an imperfect world progress is exchanging one problem for another - kicking the can down the road; it was always thus. The motorway to Patrick's Well exacerbated issues in Adare - there are other examples & there will be more but it is progress - in an imperfect world.

Deleted User wrote: »

subsequent clear up operation

Did someone mention the water?

[Deleted User]

Officially open today, so that means that they've got two days to release the captive minister and remove the blockades caused by the protests and subsequent clear up operation before being open to traffic. :pac:

gilly2308 wrote: »

Yeah I heard on the radio this morning that it would be officially opened today, although it seems quite strange that the road would then not be opened to traffic for another two days? It will be very interesting to see how much worse the traffic gets between Kill and the M9 turnoff as a result of freeflow through Newlands, as you say it would have made perfect sense to carry out the two projects in tandem, widen the M7 from Naas North (J9) to the M9 turnoff (J11), and build the Newlands cross flyover. However we don't do foresight in this country, which is why we are building our motorways, flyovers, bypasses etc thirty years after every other country.

Why would free flow make the traffic worse? There'll be a steady stream of traffic, rather than large waves as the lights change between red and green. The upgrade to 3 lanes is in planning, and can't be commenced until the government approves funding to the NRA.

_Kaiser_

sonnyblack wrote: »

Being opened today by Varadkar according to the the radio this morning. Need a bit of PR after the recent water charges debacle I guess. I wonder if there will be any protestors out

Not Vardakar anymore - here you go:

The Newlands Cross upgrade on the N7 will be officially opened by Transport Minister Paschal Donohoe later.

The junction will open to traffic on Thursday.

gilly0512

screamer wrote: »

And the biggest chokepoint in the country is set to move to Kill, when traffic chokes at Naas as 3 lanes become 2, and no one in the NRA had to foresight to upgrade that before now, freeflow my ass.

Yeah I heard on the radio this morning that it would be officially opened today, although it seems quite strange that the road would then not be opened to traffic for another two days? It will be very interesting to see how much worse the traffic gets between Kill and the M9 turnoff as a result of freeflow through Newlands, as you say it would have made perfect sense to carry out the two projects in tandem, widen the M7 from Naas North (J9) to the M9 turnoff (J11), and build the Newlands cross flyover. However we don't do foresight in this country, which is why we are building our motorways, flyovers, bypasses etc thirty years after every other country.

Cap1

It's not open until Thursday morning. It's just a ribbon cutting I'd say.

sonnyblack

pad199207 wrote: »

Not opened to drivers till Thursday christ sake

Being opened today by Varadkar according to the the radio this morning. Need a bit of PR after the recent water charges debacle I guess. I wonder if there will be any protestors out

pad199207

Not opened to drivers till Thursday christ sake

[Deleted User]

Still, it will improve things!

screamer

And the biggest chokepoint in the country is set to move to Kill, when traffic chokes at Naas as 3 lanes become 2, and no one in the NRA had to foresight to upgrade that before now, freeflow my ass.

rameire

Just heard it on kfm. Pascal donoghue is the minister opening it.

pad199207

OFFICIALLY OPENING THIS LUNCHTIME!!

Victor

Folks, constructive posts only please.

Trash-talk deleted.

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smokie72

As pad199207 said a few days ago the new gantry is been installed tonight on the new flyover. I saw it been installed myself a few minutes ago. It's just before joels.

omicron

SeanF wrote: »

Does anyone know when the proposed widening of the road from 2 to 3 lanes (between the Naas exit and the Waterford/Kilkenny exit) begins?

No date set as there is no funding for it yet, just planning permission.

SeanF

Does anyone know when the proposed widening of the road from 2 to 3 lanes (between the Naas exit and the Waterford/Kilkenny exit) begins?

ongarboy

Drove inbound last night from Naas for the first time in the area in months (as i normally use the Grange Castle exit to get home bypassing the dreaded traffic lights) and have to say it looks fantastic from the vantage point of the old/diversion lanes. The stone cladding they use along the high walls looks really impressive. Looking forward to using it properly soon when it opens!

Cookiemunster

Synode wrote: »

What do you mean partial opening? Surely when it's finished it's finished?

The flyover will open, but the sideroads won't be ready. The temporary outbound lanes have to be removed and landscaped and the new road layout below the flyover has to be finished.

KCAccidental

Synode wrote: »

What do you mean partial opening? Surely when it's finished it's finished?

it's not finished. There is still work to do in the area surrounding the flyover as well as tidying up etc.

Synode

L1011 wrote: »

I very much doubt there'll be an opening ceremony until the scheme is finished - which is months away. This is only a partial opening.

What do you mean partial opening? Surely when it's finished it's finished?