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When did the Simpsons stop being good?

Kermit.de.frog

I can't put my finger on it but watched one of the "newer" ones (as in last 10 years) and it was so bad compared to the older ones it's actually sad to see.

Where and when did it all go wrong because it strikes me that a lot of damage has been done to the cartoon's actual legacy (which it has) because maybe they should have stopped more than 10 years a go but I guess money got in the way.

When did it all go wrong?

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Tarzana2

Sometime during Season 9. Hate when people say "Yeah but it's still way better than most things on TV. Nope, no it's not.

Billy86

It fell off right around the time Matt Groening began to put his focus on Futurama, which has gone on to be absolutely brilliant in it's own right.

K4t

Always felt Troy Mclure was slightly overrated tbh. Preferred the subtle humour which many of the other characters exhibited.

obriendj

K4t wrote: »

I always went along with the general consensus that it's golden era was anywhere around seasons 4-10.

Until a few months ago I rewatched seasons 7-10 and felt it hadn't really stood the test of time too well and paled in comparison to SouthPark.

Then recently over Christmas Channel 4 started showing the much older episodes and I can safely say that the Simpsons stopped being good right around the death of Dr Marvin Monroe in season 7 and the golden era was seasons 2-6 imho.

Troy McClure: "What popular Simpson's characters have died in the past year?",

Troy McClure: "If you said Bleeding Gums Murphy and doctor Marvin Monroe you are wrong, they were never popular."

K4t

I always went along with the general consensus that it's golden era was anywhere around seasons 4-10.

Until a few months ago I rewatched seasons 7-10 and felt it hadn't really stood the test of time too well and paled in comparison to SouthPark.

Then recently over Christmas Channel 4 started showing the much older episodes and I can safely say that the Simpsons stopped being good right around the death of Dr Marvin Monroe in season 7 and the golden era was seasons 2-6 imho.

o1s1n

Been watching the Mr Plow episode on Sky. It really was an amazing show. So utterly depressing to see what it's become

Cake Man

Whenever people refer to an episode by it's name/title (e.g. The Principle and the Pauper), I usually always have to wiki/google it but even just a quote or a few word summary of a scene from the ep and I know exactly what ep it is. I can't be the only one that thinks like this!?

A_Sober_Paddy

I think I would be correct in saying that the ratio of good to bad episode in the Simpsons catelougue is not beyond 1 good to 1 bad, the last 5 seasons seem like complete muck, its more than likely that you could be looking at a show with only 40% of its stuff classed as good

Sky King

Bhopkov wrote: »

The sherry bobbins episode was when they began making it completely unrealistic. Flying with an umbrella is just ridiculous.

So you want a realistic down-to-earth show that's completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots?

Bhopkov

The sherry bobbins episode was when they began making it completely unrealistic. Flying with an umbrella is just ridiculous.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I dunno though, the ending made me nearly collapse with laughter the first time I saw it.

"Will we ever see Sherry Bobbins again?"
"I'm sure we will honey..." [Sherry Bobbins gets sucked into a plane engine] "...I'm sure we will"

That was a great joke but the rest of it was medicore in my opinion.

Adamantium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZeFDe44Ddo

"Top of the line in utility sports, unexplained fires are a matter for the courts"

[Deleted User]

The crossover with Futurama was on tonight in America. I still watch most episodes out of habit and because it doesn't take long. Tonight was a perfect example of just how banal it's gotten. There's nothing offensively bad in it, it's just nothing. The 20 minutes absolutely flies by with one or two obvious nods or references. I don't recall breaking into a smile at all.

Realt Dearg Sec

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Although that is by far the worst episode (I don't mind if I never see it again) of what is an otherwise brilliant 8th season , there were loads of episodes that came after it that were classics so it wasn't the turning point imo more an example of what the show would be become.The sherry bobbins episode is like an episode form the 12th season that is stuck in the 8th season.

I dunno though, the ending made me nearly collapse with laughter the first time I saw it.

"Will we ever see Sherry Bobbins again?"
"I'm sure we will honey..." [Sherry Bobbins gets sucked into a plane engine] "...I'm sure we will"

Dirty Dingus McGee

mojesius wrote: »

It became crap from the Sherry Bobbins episode onwards.

Although that is by far the worst episode (I don't mind if I never see it again) of what is an otherwise brilliant 8th season , there were loads of episodes that came after it that were classics so it wasn't the turning point imo more an example of what the show would be become.The sherry bobbins episode is like an episode form the 12th season that is stuck in the 8th season.

mojesius

It became crap from the Sherry Bobbins episode onwards.

Arne_Saknussem

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I think part of the problem is that the celebrity guests are portrayed in a higly flattering light now, whereas in older episodes they were often self-deprecating.

yeah, the older episodes didn't pander to the guests

Baked.noodle

I haven't watched every episode of The Simpsons but I used to enjoy it years ago. I would have to agree it's terrible now. I think the big difference is there used to be stories which covered the entire episode, and developed the wider themes that built a somewhat believable world. When I watch it now it's mostly one liner gags and poor writing, and there isn't much story to pull you in.

suicide_circus

wendell borton wrote: »

After the monkey left is when friends got ****.

I think it went shiit after Chandler quit smoking

Mint Aero

GerB40 wrote: »

Only Fool's and Horses doesn't count because it's the greatest sitcom of all time.

No shut up a second and stop typing while I type. Only Fools & Horses was good for the first few seasons but when they got into the Yuppie stuff and Rodney with Cassandra it took a huge nose dive in quality and the dead horse was kicked repeatedly for another decade.

cloud493

Sure Conan obrien has stated himself his input was minimal.

ToddyDoody

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

When did it all go wrong?

When the pope said they were Catholic. They just seemed to get lazy after that.

razorblunt

Bhopkov wrote: »

New episode on now. Decided to give it a chance. It's awful so far.

Ah it wasn't that bad. Better than episode 1 anyway.

"Well I had a mimosa for brunch two and a half years ago".

Bhopkov

New episode on now. Decided to give it a chance. It's awful so far.

6781

In the mid to late 90s not sure what season that would be.

Bhopkov

ROAAAR wrote: »

Friends is a another show that got absolutely terrible. Only the very early episodes do I find it entertaining. It's hard to see why people hold it in such high regard really. It's not the greatest writing to be fair.

Friends got sh1t in series 5. The first 4 series are brilliant.

wendell borton

ROAAAR wrote: »

Friends is a another show that got absolutely terrible. Only the very early episodes do I find it entertaining. It's hard to see why people hold it in such high regard really. It's not the greatest writing to be fair.

After the monkey left is when friends got ****.

ROAAAR

Friends is a another show that got absolutely terrible. Only the very early episodes do I find it entertaining. It's hard to see why people hold it in such high regard really. It's not the greatest writing to be fair.

C14N

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Yeah, people often overstate his importance to the shows glory days. He was a great contributor to it but they did fine without him for quite some time.

I don't really know why people think he was so important. Not that he wasn't a great writer, but he was one amongst many at the time and he certainly wasn't the one guy carrying or leading the team. I can only imagine people single him out because he's by far the most famous person to work on the show but even then, he's only the most famous because of what he did after, he wasn't a bigshot when he was on the writing team.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Yeah, people often overstate his importance to the shows glory days. He was a great contributor to it but they did fine without him for quite some time.