geeksauce wrote: » Seriously, what is with the dramatics. As I said I would take the parents declarations of no contract no consent as them stating in writing that they do not want to be supplied with water by Irish Water. If the parents want to ensure their kids have water then they will need to complete the forms and pay for the water they use, it's quite a simple concept, it's also a shame that this needed to be explained to you twice given its simplicity.
Lucy and Harry wrote: » Bojack do you not know we have a right to drinking water?Do I have to get the finger puppets out for you to explain things to you?
VinLieger wrote: » Trying to find relevant article now
Little CuChulainn wrote: » Show us where it is set out, in law or otherwise, that you have a right to potable water pumped to your home free of charge.
Lucy and Harry wrote: » it is illegal to cut the water off fully.Google human rights.These people have votes you know.They will get revenge soon when elections come around.The party that abolished this gets the vote from the majority.You will see.:rolleyes:Why are you getting pleasure from stopping people having drinking water as they are too poor to pay this extra bill.?
Lucy and Harry wrote: » we have been paying for water always it has never been ''free'':rolleyes:
Fine Gael councillor apologises for telling protesters to collect rainwater and drink it Laura McGonigle made the remarks on her private Facebook account at the weekend. 48 minutes ago 7,866 Views 67 Comments Share Tweet Email10 A FINE GAEL councillor has issued an apology for saying that water charges protesters should collect rainwater while out marching and drink it for a week. Laura McGonigle, a Cork city councillor, made the remarks on her personal Facebook account at the weekend. The comments were made as tens of thousands of people took to the streets around the country, including in Cork, to protest against Irish Water and the introduction of water charges. The comments were subsequently deleted from her account but several screenshots have been circulating on social media today:
geeksauce wrote: » How do you come to the conclusion that I get pleasure from stopping people having drinking water as they are too poor to pay this extra bill? I for one don't know anyone too poor to pay this extra bill, the people I know that have sent back their forms incomplete or with some nonsense such as no contract no consent, claim they are too poor, however in reality they just don't want to have to pay for a service. They are the ones that have spent their whole lives with their hands out, taking their SW payments, Council Houses etc. now they are being asked to pay for a service they are up in arms. No more free rides.
Lucy and Harry wrote: » Go to St Vincent De Paul if you think there is no poverty in Ireland and see for yourself.So now you are saying every body not paying this tax are on the dole?Ever go to a march and see that people from all walks of life are protesting.You may have a hatred for dole bums and I agree it is a disgrace the way some people abuse the system but for you to throw every person into that bracket is wrong.1 million homes cant be all lazy people asking for a free ride.You are over generalising.
Lucy and Harry wrote: » It is illegal to cut water as it is against human rights.You will not get your pleasure this time.You want kids to go without basic human rights as their parents cant afford to pay this??Shocking.
Lucy and Harry wrote: » where
Lucy and Harry wrote: » http://www.thejournal.ie/fine-gael-councillor-facebook-rainwater-1759765-Nov2014/ FG the party of the people.So out of touch.This water charge will break them and they will be out of government soon.
Deleted User wrote: » It can be turned down to a trickle and there is no limit on how low that trickle can be.
Creative Juices wrote: » I think you are right. They have coasted through the last few years following FF policy while making blunder after blunder. Enda has been the worst Taoiseach and leader since 1922. Sinn Fein will benefit bigtime but in my opinion there is huge scope for a new political party to clean up on all the anger out there.
papu wrote: » Ah yes , decisions made in anger are always the best ..
listermint wrote: » But you will be the same guys coming back crying tears when a water bill lands on your doorstep from Neuvo Irish Water Capital Investments in a few years time for 800 Euro
VinLieger wrote: » Not able to find the article but as it stand's any request for an increase has to go through the energy regulator and is not something IW can do on a whim
BoJack Horseman wrote: » That depends on 2 things Lister. - Will Sinn Fein get into power. - if so will they follow through on their commitment to privatise IW Big decisions for the voters ahead.
Maybe I'm open to correction but is the energy regulators job now defunct? This was discussed on the radio the other day when energy prices were being talked about.There is no one major player in the market so Bord Gais (who own IW) are no longer subject to regulation.
listermint wrote: » Id have Sinn Fein in a power share, my FF FG and Labour votes of the past have all been wasted. There is the same corrupt little state existing here. If something fresh is tried then so be it. Id welcome the change. FF FG and Labour are doing no better. I dont know why the constant line that the flip flip between the two major parties is helping / had helped the nation. It hasnt.
papu wrote: » So the people living on the streets , where do they get their water from?
Irish Water Will Sue For Breach Of Contract – Erm, Really ? Posted on November 1, 2014 by Admin D imagesLast night on RTE Irish Water’s communications officer (cough cough) was telling the viewing public that if people didn’t pay their water bills they would be taken to court. This is fear propaganda. It says in Irish Water’s own documents they cannot deduct money from source nor cut off supply but must attempt to recover monies by enforcement of contract through normal court procedures. So they must go to court and prove you are in breach of a contract under contract law before they can get a civil judgement against you. To do this they must first prove they have a contract with you, declared or implied. This is going to be very difficult if, as we suggest, you make it very clear and unambiguous that you do not wish to be in a contract with Irish Water. Not only would it be extremely difficult to prove, it would be foolish to attempt to bring before a court as it fails on the most basic tenets of jurisdiction. So stand firm and know your rights. Don’t be scared by the propaganda machine. Nor should you be fooled by the ever increasing amounts of water credit the government is offering. A new flat €100 “for everyone in the audience” is now being mooted. Remember €100 off €500 still means you pay and extra 400 over what you already pay in tax for water. This is merely a trick to get you to contract with them. Once you are signed up the allowances can evaporate, the water charges can rise, and the company can be sold off to a foreign banks and pension funds in the same way UK water companies have been
listermint wrote: » In the last three pages we have heard phrases like 'fall into line' 'i dont know anyone to poor to' And a number of silly-isms. Its quite clear that these lines roll out in droves, So its like ye lads travel in bands together mashing out a few lines of incoherence for effect. But you will be the same guys coming back crying tears when a water bill lands on your doorstep from Neuvo Irish Water Capital Investments in a few years time for 800 Euro alongside your still existing USC and your property tax. And you will still be FG flag waving. If it wasnt so sadistic i mean you would have to wonder about some people.Or perhaps you wont have to worry theres a striking feeling that much of the posting is coming from Leinster House, enjoy my pension money lads. Hope it makes you sleep soundly.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » Any response to my question Lucy?
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