Iwasfrozen wrote: » Free country sure, but if you allow "people" (dirt is more accurate) like that to associate with your movement that you can't be surprised with people associate your movement with dirt like him.
Larbre34 wrote: » You do not put stuff in the constitution about bloody utilities. There is enough superfluous stuff in there as it is about society that has nothing to do with structuring a republic. Joe Costello or anyone else who suggests a referendum is a cretin.
Banjo String wrote: » Green shoots....
Larbre34 wrote: » There are other choices, including inflating our way out of it instead of more and more prohibitive austerity. You know that as well as Enda does
Guy:Incognito wrote: » No its not. Its about not paying for water. http://www.right2water.ie/about Theres nothing stopping you not getting mains water and fending for yourself, nothing at all. You wont be required to pay IW a penny.
twowheelsgood wrote: » I think you have been predicting the demise of this government 5 times a day from about 20 minutes after they get into power. I guess you have to be right eventually. Out of curiosity, do you give any credit to the government for our economic recovery since they came to power? Or do you even acknowledge that there even has been a recovery?
hju6 wrote: » The citizens of Ireland and the troika saved this country
hju6 wrote: » Utilities are the health and economic prosperity of the nation And as such should be embedded in the constitution
Micky Dolenz wrote: » FG need to get their shyte together, fast. I, for one, don't want to live in a state governed by SF.
twowheelsgood wrote: » So if a government has no effect then there's no point in replacing them with another one? Maybe we could convert the Dáil in to a hotel? :pac:
Highflyer13 wrote: » Dare I say it but we are well and truly f**ked next election. Nobody there I want to give my vote to.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Free utilities for everyone yeah?
Smidge wrote: » Dont know if anyone posted this yet but...... Water charges: Milan €0.40 / 1000 litres Athens €0.78 / 1000 litres Madrid €0.99 / 1000 litresIrish Water €4.88 / 1000 litres
DamagedTrax wrote: » 3 out of 4 of those countries arent known for excessive wetness.
yipeeeee wrote: » Tax the rich.that's people before profits stance. God help us if these ever had any power.
hju6 wrote: » Please don't resort to embarrassing yourself
dxhound2005 wrote: » What will be the effect of each house getting 30,000 litres before charging kicks in on that calculation. Or the effect of the capped charge which will apply for a period? Also why did you not include the cities which charge around the same or higher than €4.88. With no uncharged for allowance?
Smidge wrote: » Oh dx, dx, dx London €1.63 / 1000 litres Paris €2.16 / 1000 litres Munich €2.26 / 1000 litres 3 of the MOST expensive cities in Europe to live in. Would you like some blood to go with that?
dxhound2005 wrote: » What about the cities that charge more than €4.88? And can you work out the average charge per house for Ireland factoring in 30,000 litres for each house and 21,000 litres for each child taken off the bill. That will be a more accurate comparison.
Smidge wrote: » Well I'll tell you what dx..... YOU do a bit of research and tell ME who charges more than €4.88 per unit rather than being totally spurious. Then we'll have a debate
dxhound2005 wrote: » What will be the effect of each house getting 30,000 litres before charging kicks in on that calculation.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Taking the nominal value per litre without factoring in things like free allowance is being intellectually dishonest.