tayto lover wrote: » Many of those were returned "NO Contract" I believe.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » That would not be considered signing up now would it? There's zero basis for that belief other than wishful thinking.
bigbertieb wrote: » i dont want to pay any more than i have to but its happening and the sooner people accept that the better. if water charges arent paid another stealth will be imposed. pay it and lets move on....
dxhound2005 wrote: » Stuff about gyms and bonuses is not a policy. Any self respecting private sector manager would get paid 10 times what a manager in IW does. Anger is not a policy. What is their policy on funding the €1.77 billion investment planned by IW between now and 2016?
dxhound2005 wrote: » twowheelsgood wrote: » I know what it is about. You made the ludicrous reference to apartheid in an attempt to justify the disregard of the law in a democracy, simply because you don’t agree with the law and imagine (with no supporting evidence) that the majority agree with you. There are good arguments that you can make against IW and how it is emerged. You may even have an argument that the current way of funding water is better than a pay what you use approach.Drawing parallels, however oblique, with apartheid however, is simply daft.[/QUOTE] But it is de rigueur on AH. Any thread to do with separating money from unwilling citizens always has to make reference to the holy trinity. Slavery, the Nazis and apartheid. It just goes with the territory. Also Martin Luther King and Gandhi must be mentioned. That's an extremely narrow view. There is no "any thread" scenario,other than what you choose to imagine. Corruption,cronyism and deception,are descriptive and realistic. You are diverting a long way from the subject matter. I can only surmise why.
twowheelsgood wrote: » I know what it is about. You made the ludicrous reference to apartheid in an attempt to justify the disregard of the law in a democracy, simply because you don’t agree with the law and imagine (with no supporting evidence) that the majority agree with you. There are good arguments that you can make against IW and how it is emerged. You may even have an argument that the current way of funding water is better than a pay what you use approach.Drawing parallels, however oblique, with apartheid however, is simply daft.[/QUOTE] But it is de rigueur on AH. Any thread to do with separating money from unwilling citizens always has to make reference to the holy trinity. Slavery, the Nazis and apartheid. It just goes with the territory. Also Martin Luther King and Gandhi must be mentioned.
hju6 wrote: » I'm a lifelong Newcastle fan as is my wife, but we went to our local protest in the rain and missed the second half More than worth it to stand in solidarity with thousands of fellow like minded citizens against this unjust charge
adrian92 wrote: » "Let us pay it...and move on". I do not know where we move on to. The next one?
gladrags wrote: » dxhound2005 wrote: » That's an extremely narrow view. There is no "any thread" scenario,other than what you choose to imagine. Corruption,cronyism and deception,are descriptive and realistic. You are diverting a long way from the subject matter. I can only surmise why. Surmise away.
dxhound2005 wrote: » That's an extremely narrow view. There is no "any thread" scenario,other than what you choose to imagine. Corruption,cronyism and deception,are descriptive and realistic. You are diverting a long way from the subject matter. I can only surmise why.
bigbertieb wrote: » move on as in lets get ireland back to being great and out of the sh*te it was in..... the majourity of people are going to pay. 100, 000 odd people saying they aint paying isnt going to stop this tax.... deal with it
gladrags wrote: » It was uplifting. Was on O'Connell bridge at one point,and crowds were marching from left and right,along the quay,towards the GPO.
BigBrownBear wrote: » I don't plan on paying, but I said that about the Household Charge.... Fair play to all who made their voices heard today......Powerfull stuff However I can't get me head around these people 'protesting' on roads where GMC Sierra are contracted to install the meters. Surely IF you've no intention of paying it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if they installed 20 meters outside your house. You're either going to pay or you're not. Or is there another separate agenda at play here??
Larry Wildman wrote: » I saw what I saw. Between 3k and 5k marching in Dublin and a crowd comprised of Sinn Fein / left voters. It was not a disparate group. People waving Dublin GAA and smoking rolled cigarettes. I don't mean to sound like Ross O'Carroll-Kelly but I'd say that the average income level and education level was pretty low.
Rightwing wrote: » If water meters aren't installed, it throws their plans up in the air.
bigbertieb wrote: » listermint... when it gets that high, come back to me..... scaremongering.
listermint wrote: » No, when it gets that high it will be too late. And people like you with your happy go lucky nonsense will be crying into your cornflakes. As you have the ability to signup to a web forum and seemingly can type i am sure you will be intelligent enough to realise that water is a huge commodity and alongside food resources has and is being actively targeted by investment funds right this moment. Whom as you also know are only in to make money, that is what private industry does and look after share holders. WHEN irish water become private it will be at the behest of its own shareholders. Who will not be You Me or the Irish Citizens. Good luck controlling that. Is this scare mongering or is it realism ? FG want water off their books, they want it out of their hands they have no intention of looking after it. Water is a national commodity it should be held within collective public ownership. Food and Water Security will become more and more important as the population of this planet grows. But that stuff is too far out of reach for some people to contemplate. Why we would actively choose to jeopardise our Water Security into private ownership is beyond me, and you dont have to be a lefty bloody conspiracy junkie to question it.
bigbertieb wrote: » yea i am intelligent and also intelligent enough to know that its a tax that has to be paid. i will pay the tax end of. like everyone should do. all the conspiracy nonsence in the world aint going to stop it. its here to stay. accept it.
Larry Wildman wrote: » I saw the march on the quays today. First of all, the number were small relative to what was expected (3,000 to 5,000 I'd say). Second of all, it was not what you'd call a disparate group. Everybody looked lower working class. Nobody looked like they had a job. There were a lot of people waving Dublin GAA flags. I saw no professional or middle class people at all. But then they work Monday to Friday to pay for those who were marching to live their lives...