wretcheddomain wrote: » I didn't realize money was expressed as digital time, nor did I realize there's that much difference between 2:15 and 2:05. Learn something new everyday on boards though. :rolleyes:
SirLemonhead wrote: » For Dublin bus, the new cash fare is €2.80, the new Leap fare is €2.05 That's a difference of 75 cents. Unless I've misinterpreted the point you're trying to make..
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » Bus Eireann average wage: €50,623 Irish Rail average wage: €53,108 Dublin Bus average wage: €52,656 Aircoach : €37.713 Lothian Scotland: €42,765 First Manchester: €30,470
dublinstevie wrote: » ???????I have worked as a driver for Dublin Bus for the past 15years and ive never earned 52,656 in any given year,either im on the wrong pay scale and getting screwed or you are talking bollocks,id go with the latter.
B0jangles wrote: » Best value for me has to be the dublin bus 10 journey ticket - it costs 27.50 (used to be 22.50 but went up massively a couple of years ago) so that works out as 2.75 per journey, and you can take as many buses as you like for 90 minutes after each journey starts - so say you start out in shankill - get the bus to the city centre, then switch to a bus to Blanchardstown; the whole journey will cost you 2.75 in total. Leap is crap by comparison. Of course, they are working on phasing out the paper tickets, you know for customer convenience.
mariaalice wrote: » Seriously what are people doing on Dublin bus using change in this day and age, Why would anyone spend more money by using cash!!.
seamus wrote: » <snip> If I were to use a leap card, I would need to check my credit the night before, and if it's too low, drive down to the local shop before it closes at 10pm to top-up my leap card. If I discover that I have no credit before I leave for work, there is nowhere within a 30 minute walk to "activate" the top-up on my card before 8am. <snip>
Birneybau wrote: » People that don't have Leap cards are mad.
munchkin_utd wrote: » if you check here (as already mentioned) the auto top up will ensure you always have at least a tenner on your leap card:http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/General-News/Introducing-Leap-Card-Auto-Top-Up/ so a) no need to check the night before and b) no need to re-activate as everything is automatic
dquinnan wrote: » Passenger numbers are down so we'll increase the fares for another consecutive year, great logic there! They should at least freeze Leap fares for a year or two to throw hard pressed commuters a bone. They didn't raise the tax on petrol this year did they? but no problem hitting people who have no other alternative than the poxy bus. So bloody irritating too when you see out of it drug addicts/drunks / gougers stroll on without paying a thing, while I have to search my place for coins on a Wednesday to try and gather enough cash to top up my leap for the remainder of the week.
moxin wrote: » Topping up a Leap card in a shop is time consuming especially when there is a queue. I do topup at the Luas machines whenever i'm in town. Why can't they have topup machines like the Luas ones in the suburbs with no Luas instead of trekking to a shop? Like an ATM perhaps but only takes money and is 24 hr.
seamus wrote: » Anyway, that kind of proves my point. If they can auto top-up without activation, then you can do normal top-up without activation. There's no good reason why activation is required.
seamus wrote: » I only get the bus occasionally, from the stop outside my house into town and back out again. If I were to use a leap card, I would need to check my credit the night before, and if it's too low, drive down to the local shop before it closes at 10pm to top-up my leap card. If I discover that I have no credit before I leave for work, there is nowhere within a 30 minute walk to "activate" the top-up on my card before 8am. So I use cash instead. Because I have a big jar of cash in my house, so it's more convenient. The cash queue for the bus is also shorter than the cash queue for the leap machine. The bus I get has WiFi onboard, so it could very easily charge leap cards in real time. There is literally no good reason why this activation nonsense still exists. Even busses without wifi could collect the data from any leap cards used and then sync with the central database at the depot.
WoollyRedHat wrote: » Maybe if people didn't top up by amounts which will only do them for one week and topped up by a larger amount or not top up at peak times (i.e in the morning just before commute gets underway) then it wouldn't be such a problem.
dublinstevie wrote: » The transport companies love people like you,even though its blatantly obvious cash is a rip off compared to leap card you still insist on paying cash,why not cash all your coins in at the bank and top up a leap card with that money,more journeys from your jar of coins,everyone moaning and groaning because the cash fares have risen,obvious answer is get a LEAP CARD
Maybe people can't to afford to top up for multiple weeks in advance. I certainly can't. Same reason I can't use the auto top up as the minimum amount is 30 quid, when it should be half that. NTA /Leap/whichever overpaid quango is in charge this week haven't a clue.
Nimr wrote: » It's the exact same with an Oyster card. I presumed the reason behind it was something like this: If you top up online, there's no way for the system to contact your card(unlike your phone) and tell it to increase balance by €X amount. So you go to a Luas stop/train station/shop. Bus card readers can't download and store a list of cards to be topped up so you can't collect your top up on a bus. When you choose auto top up, once again, you go to a Luas stop or whatever to activate it. It stores your choice on your card i.e. If balance falls below €10, top up by €20. You use it on a bus or any other card reader, it reads it and sees the balance is below €10, it tells the card to top up by €20. It seemed logical to me. It's probably not the reason.
Nimr wrote: » How is Leap card crap by comparison? It's the exact same price as a Leap card weekly cap, €27.50. In fact, if the Travel 90s are going up, it's cheaper because Leap card caps are untouched in this price hike. It might be more value for money for non-frequent commuters compared to the Leap card daily cap of €6.90, I'll give you that.
OSI wrote: » The bus cannot access your account though. Your card is a local replica of your account.
OSI wrote: » Ever tried to use the Wifi on the buses? It's ****. What's the driver supposed to do if there's no reception? Takes long enough boarding a bus without waiting for the machine to connect to a remote server and validate your balance every single time.
