J C wrote: » Not just me ... we have it on the authority of the Judge that Saganist quoted:- Quote:- ... so there is an outright ban on any research and its publication, where the research is into the evidence for the supernatural origin of life - even though all logic and physical evidence is pointing in the direction of God. [/B].
J C wrote: » ... its even worse ... Evolutionists claim that the Universe and all life created itself. ... at least Humans creating other Humans doesn't violate the principle that every effect has a similar or greater cause ... whereas the 'evolution' of Humans from Pondslime does.!!!
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » Evolution claims absolutely nothing about the origin of the universe or life. Are you sure you're a qualified scientist?
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » Plenty of scientists are religious FFS. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.
J C wrote: » They may be religious ... but they are operating under rules that limit science to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. Science therefore must be Atheistic under its own rules, to the point of denying overwhelming evidence for the action of God ... and there is an outright ban on any research and its publication, where the research is into the evidence for the supernatural origin of life - even though all logic and physical evidence is pointing in the direction of God. ... Science is a 'creature of Atheism' when it comes to investigation our 'origins' and anything it says about Evolution, Abiogenesis or the origins of the Universe needs to be tempered by this reality.
J C wrote: » They may be religious ... but they are operating under rules that limit science to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena.Science therefore must be Atheistic under its own rules, to the point of denying overwhelming evidence for the action of God ... and there is an outright ban on any research and its publication, where the research is into the evidence for the supernatural origin of life - even though all logic and physical evidence is pointing in the direction of God. ... Science is a 'creature of Atheism' when it comes to investigation our 'origins' and anything it says about Evolution, Abiogenesis or the origins of the Universe needs to be tempered by this reality.
Squeedily Spooch wrote: » JC is as much of a scientist as I am, none at all. At this point it's plain as day he's just a fruit loop and a liar, it just keeps getting funnier though.
J C wrote: » I'm a fully qualified conventional scientist ... but, as I'm not an atheist, and I no longer believe that life had a natural cause, this disqualifies me from doing 'origins' research within conventional science ... so myself and my fellow Creation Scientists and ID Proponents do our research of necessity outside of conventional science. It has the full status of conventional 'origins' research' ... just with the Atheist-bias removed.:)
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » Why do you keep harping on about abiogenesis and the origin of the universe in a thread about evolution?
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » Again with the strawman. Evolution=/=atheism=/=an explanation of the origins of life. Evolution is a theory that explains how life changes over time. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. The two are not connected. Compatible, yes, but not interlinked.
PopePalpatine wrote: » What's so bad about posting your credentials? I'm currently studying for a BSc in Computer Science and Software Engineering at NUI Maynooth/Maynooth University. I doubt anyone bar a couple of people from the NUIM board can name me just by studying my Boards posts.
lanomist wrote: » just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?
Squeedily Spooch wrote: » It's pretty clear he has zero scientific credentials, but he's lied about it so much now he can't back down.
Squeedily Spooch wrote: The bit at 8.30 is priceless, geologist states flood water simply couldn't have caused the Grand Canyon. Norn Iron idiot Creationist asks if he's ever read any Creationist literature "Oh I've read them but I don't count them as scientists" Norn Iron idiot looks like he's just found out there's no Santa
J C wrote: » Firstly, the 'Norn Iron Idiot' as you so outrageously refer to him, is a qualified Barrister ... so I would go easy on such unfounded prejudicial statements about an identifiable individual, if I were you. Secondly, the fact that Phil recognizes and respects the geologist as a qualified geologist ... but the geologist doesn't recognize other equally and conventionally qualified geologists, simply because they are Creationists say that the Atheist dominance of science has gone too far ... and in the interest of equality, it now need to be seriously looked at.
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » Exactly, these people seem to think you can just walk around saying 'I'm a scientist' as if that has any kind of weight to it.
J C wrote: » Here is the scientific basis for ID ... while it may point towards the existence of God (not very surprising when He exists and Created life) ... it is exclusively scientifically and evidentially based.http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92692013&postcount=1836
J C wrote: » ... and has an a priori ban the consideration of all hypotheses involving God ... regardless of the weight of logic and evidence in its favour.
J C wrote: » I could equally say that because God exists it is insane to not believe He exists ... but, as I'm tolerant of diversity of opinion and believe in tackling the belief and not the believer, I wouldn't do so. ... and it would add nothing to the debate, just like your insults also detract from whatever point you are trying to make. ... and your foul mouth does nothing for your case, either.:( Here is the logical, evidentially backed basis for ID ... you may deny it but you cannot disprove it.http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92692013&postcount=1836 ... are there any more unfounded names that you would like to call me? I used be an evolutionist ... I evaluated the evidence and I scientifically concluded that M2M Evolution was invalid and ID is valid. ... and as a man of integrity, I have published my conclusions ... for anybody that likes to invalidate. ... and all I have received in return, is plenty of nasty personalised name-calling that would do justice to any school-yard bully ... but no invalidation of my hypothesis. The killing and the general denial of Human Rights all happened in the name of atheism (and ironically also in the name of 'Reason' and the 'Rights of Man') in the French Revolution ... and the blood-letting reached it's peak with the Atheistic Communists of the 20th Century as they tried to the build a world without God or religion. They literally killed people to 'free' society from religion ... while gleefully ignoring the fact that they held an equally human-invented idea that there is no God. They also destroyed churches or turned them into 'Museums of Atheism'. This cathedral in Eastern Europe that was taken over and turned into a Museum ... and it is now back in use as a church, after the fall of Communismhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/norfolkodyssey/376765112/Quote:- "The former Soviet Museum of Scientific Atheism, better known as St Isaac's Cathedral in St Petersburg, photographed in December, 1985. Internally, it is the second biggest cathedral in the world. Under Stalin in the 1930s, by which time the city had been renamed Leningrad, the building was cleared of all religious clutter and turned into a Museum of Scientific Atheism. Exhibits included a pendulum which proved the rotation of the earth.Stalin's enthusiasm for Scientific Atheism led to the regime treating faith and belief in God as a form of mental illness. Anyone who was openly Christian had their path to promotion at work blocked, and many professions closed to them. Thousands of people who stubbornly persisted in the Christian faith were treated as delusional, and found themselves carted off to special hospitals for treatment and re-education. Many of these people ended up in the gulags, a system of concentration camps, many in northern Siberia, where millions of people met their deaths. Scientific Atheism also promoted the idea that bringing up your kids in the Christian tradition was a form of child abuse. Inevitably, many children of militant Christians were taken into care by the State, to be brought up in vast orphanages." When you guys make unfounded assertions of 'delusion' and 'mental illness' against Christians, ye are following in very ignoble, evil and sinister 'foot-steps' indeed. This church wasn't as lucky ... and was destroyed by the Atheistic Communists in a fit of wanton destruction and barbarism that beggars belief:- I fully accept that all beliefs are open to challenge ... whilst respecting the person who holds the belief. Any belief system, and scientism is a belief system, can fall into the error, just like any other belief system. Creation Science believes that it has evidence for the truth that God Created the Universe and all life ... Evolutionists believe that it created itself. ... and could you please make even one point without resorting to unfounded name-calling. I have posted the basis for ID ... it is scientifically based and logically sound ... and nobody has yet successfully and part of it ... so I'm quite entitled to publish it as the truth.
Stalin—easier still. For hundreds of years, millions of Russians had been told the head of state should be a man close to God, the czar, who was head of the Russian Orthodox Church as well as absolute despot. If you’re Stalin, you shouldn’t be in the dictatorship business if you can’t exploit the pool of servility and docility that’s ready-made for you. The task of atheists is to raise people above that level of servility and credulity. No society has gone the way of gulags or concentration camps by following the path of Spinoza and Einstein and Jefferson and Thomas Paine.
Pherekydes wrote: » Hilarious! Definition: A priori knowledge or justification is independent of experience. Galen Strawson has stated that an a priori argument is one in which "you can see that it is true just lying on your couch. You don't have to get up off your couch and go outside and examine the way things are in the physical world. You don't have to do any science." That is exactly how you do "science". Everyone else in the [scientific] world is wrong because god!
Gintonious wrote: » You are also very quick to just reference Communism under stalin, so let Hitchens sort that out for you, and you can rest your little head easy. Quote: Stalin—easier still. For hundreds of years, millions of Russians had been told the head of state should be a man close to God, the czar, who was head of the Russian Orthodox Church as well as absolute despot. If you’re Stalin, you shouldn’t be in the dictatorship business if you can’t exploit the pool of servility and docility that’s ready-made for you. The task of atheists is to raise people above that level of servility and credulity. No society has gone the way of gulags or concentration camps by following the path of Spinoza and Einstein and Jefferson and Thomas Paine.
J C wrote: » Expert testimony (under oath at the Dover Trial) revealed that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. Science has therefore effectively bowed out as an independent source of information and ideas on any 'origins' question ... as it has self-limited itself to only considering hypotheses that don't involve God ... and this self-censorship has now been extended to even hypotheses involving intelligent action. So science has bizarrely excluded itself from being able to objectively evaluate the evidence for Direct Creation ... and has 'hitched its wagon' firmly to Abiogenesis, Spontaneous Evolution and any other idea that is acceptable to Practical Atheists ... and only ideas that are acceptable to them.
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » We. Are. Not. Discussing. Origins. We. Are. Discussing. Evolution. They. Are. Not. The. Same. Thing.
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » The hilarity of a creationist criticising anyone for being hitched to a certain belief system is just amazing though. People of all faiths and none can see the evidence for evolution.
Doctor Jimbob wrote: » Only those with a very specific belief system can see the 'evidence' for evolution. There is only one conclusion a rational person could come to based on that.
