realies wrote: » No Gerry Adams yet , bad thread.
end of the road wrote: » he had no evidence that he wasn't "popping around for tea and a chat"
end of the road wrote: » exactly, he murdered him after he left the property. had he shot him once on the property and he died, that may have been a different story. but he followed him and shot him again. so frankly i've no sympathy for the murdering vermin. the only reason he got away with the sympathy vote was because the man he shot was a traveler
end of the road wrote: » good, then we could lock you up for the rest of your life as you'd be clearly a danger to society just like Nally.
end of the road wrote: » who had left his property. what convictions and court appearances he had were irrelevant.
end of the road wrote: » yeah, anti traveler types and those who weren't brought up properly with proper morals
end of the road wrote: » the fact he shot a man the second time when he had left the property says otherwise. no sympathy for him. he played the sympathy card and got lucky
endacl wrote: » I blame Gerry Adams. State of this kip. Etc.
Tail Docker wrote: » No Hitler either. Glaring omission.
Sofiztikated wrote: » It's possibly the fault of the kiddy fiddling, celebate Catholic church, they didn't like the looks of those tits in the polo, so obviously ignored them, causing them to have a complex. Is that bingo?
Nothing will be done here. Remember, the State considers these thugs not as its enemy, but those citizens who object to paying twice for their water. Just watch the resources that will be called upon to deal with the latter (including those lucky enough not to have their fancy mobile phones stolen from them).
The law is an ass in both the way we administer justice in this country and the the way our guards handled this situation.Where are the legal representatives ie,solicitors and barristers who represented these thugs for their own financial gain to free these thugs from justice.Would they like to wake up if it were one of their wives or loved ones killed by these thugs.My sincerest sympathy to the family of the this lady.
Simply drag these thugs from their hospital beds and leave the scumbags on the side of the road so they can experience the pain of the unfortunate lady who died. We have the parasites of the legal system screwing us and the criminals giving us the two fingers, but what will change from this. Nothing until the people of this country take to the streets and demand action.
The smug judges, solicitors and barristers may as well admit that it is they who are directly responsible for this woman's death. They and the posh clubs that represent them are talking shops and useless, they have abused the trust of the Irish people for far too long now and gotten away with it just like the criminals. They have used the revolving door system to expand their extremely valuable franchise it is all self serving meanwhile the public pay the full price of judicial cowardice and incompetence. Let's not forget they are all political appointments' either directly or by a nod to the judicial appointments board. It's as bad a failure as the political system itself.
20 previous convictions for car theft and burglaries..... and 20 times a barrister, a solicitor and a whole legal system , .. all dipped into the free legal aid pot and benefited from this guy being let out time and again by a judge.... even after two or three times the judiciary any other country would have taken these people off the street. It appears the free legal aid system is there more to help professionals to enjoy a nice cosy income rather than help genuine people who find themselves having to defend themselves in court.. Imagine how many barristers, solicitors, ..even the judiciary would be out of a job if we did not have a system that allowed criminals out on bail or given a fine...time and again when they clearly should be locked up .... but instead they are allowed out only to commit more crime which inevitably will lead to the free legal aid system being dipped into again and again. It appears to me the free legal aid system is being manipulated to provide a fine income for a whole swathe of professionals.
Idbatterim wrote: » some excellent comments under the following Independent article.
TomoBhoy wrote: » Right you have assholes in every walk of life, I live in close proximity to about 4/5 settled families, I have never had anything but good to say about them, I know absolute knuts and none of them are from the travelling community, but saying that we all know a small minority tar rich/poor/travelling/settled/Roma/migrants.
pc7 wrote: » Not sure if it's been posted but exactly as I thought yesterday. Driver has 20 former convictions, another passenger has convictions pending and the other 3 are on bail. The police are NOT to blame for this these scum are and the judgicary that give such lenient (non existent) sentences. http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/fatal-crash-car-was-chased-after-crime-spree-30691770.html
end of the road wrote: » he had no evidence that he wasn't "popping around for tea and a chat" exactly, he murdered him after he left the property. had he shot him once on the property and he died, that may have been a different story. but he followed him and shot him again. so frankly i've no sympathy for the murdering vermin. the only reason he got away with the sympathy vote was because the man he shot was a traveler good, then we could lock you up for the rest of your life as you'd be clearly a danger to society just like Nally. yes i am. who had left his property. what convictions and court appearances he had were irrelevant. yeah, anti traveler types and those who weren't brought up properly with proper morals the fact he shot a man the second time when he had left the property says otherwise. no sympathy for him. he played the sympathy card and got lucky
tayto lover wrote: » True and it doesn't matter that they were Travelers either. What matters is that they were out on bail to continue a rampage around the country.
eviltwin wrote: » Read this and was disgusted, even more disgusted to find on continued reading that the driver who was 23 or 24 was the oldest occupant of the car. The rest were teenagers!! Like wtf is wrong with this country when you have someone barely into adulthood with that many convictions to their name. And why are Pavee Point so silent on this? They are the first to come out with a statement when they feel travellers are hard done by but very quite on subjects like traveller gangs robbing blind.
18MonthsaSlave wrote: » Irish Times are trying to whoop up a campaign about the 14 year old traveller who was was denied a wake while ignoring the background of the individuals here, a background that almost inevitably leads to anti-social behaviour and misery for the rest of Irish society. The Irish Times is a comical caricature of the PC Liberal media. If the owner of the funeral parlour or relative of the innocent dead women were related to the Editor of the IT they'd unlikely have the same enlightened view which allows them to mount their high horse and look down on the rest of Irish society.
Idbatterim wrote: » some excellent comments under the following Independent article. The free legal aid gravy train is simply too good to turn down for the legal profession. We hear that a prison space costs X per year. How much is it costing to process the scum every time they appear in court, what is the cost of the crime, how much welfare are they receiving every week?http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/fatal-crash-car-was-chased-after-crime-spree-30691770.html So let me get this straight, these scum are costing us an absolute fortune with the current situation, yet we cant afford to lock them up? Morally its depraved!
smurgen wrote: » How exactly does the legal profession work in instances like this?is there any recourse or reprocussions for the judges who allowed these individuals out?
eviltwin wrote: » why are Pavee Point so silent on this? They are the first to come out with a statement when they feel travellers are hard done by but very quite on subjects like traveller gangs robbing blind.
end of the road wrote: » the guardai are partly to blame. they are not trained to be involved in high speed chaces like this. hopefully this will be a wake up call for better proceedures for such incidents including proper high speed driving training
end of the road wrote: » so what. its not their job to say anything in relation to this or traveler gangs robbing blind. thats the job of the courts. Pavee Points job is to look after travelers who have been discriminated against. Pavee Point saying anything in relation to criminality from travelers isn't going to change anything and is frankly unnecessary
Hitchens wrote: » your posts just get worse and worse, have you no shame at all
