Viewtodiefor wrote: » What evidence mj? I had 4x0 and went to 2x2 and I'm thinking of going back to 4 by zero. I have been looking into it and after doing some research on it I've come to the conclusion that 4 by zero mayb better.
awaywithyou wrote: » i know of a crowd milking well over 200 cows in a 10 unit... thats some craic i'd say!
mahoney_j wrote: » All evidence points to 2x2,dairymaster on their own with 4x0.just one of many reasons not to buy dairymaster
Greengrass1 wrote: » What I am suggesting is at calving time milk your main herd -cows thar can go in to bulk tank Then get in your fresh calvers/highscc/antibiotic cows milk these these can go threw yout machine into a barrel. These cows stay in this group until antibiotics are out of them or there scc is cured. This group stays in shed or in seperate paddock which ever yr like. You have no transfere off bugs then. In my opinion cluster flushing is only coverinh a problem. If a cow cant have a low scc there is no point in having her
Viewtodiefor wrote: » Yes def true if they are set up correct they will all milk cows. I think 4 by zero pulsation is better for cows than the 2x2,
Deepsouthwest wrote: » Parlour around 8 yrs old here, so not comparable with nowadays I guess. Priced both dairymaster and de Laval. Went with gascoigne cos they had the soundest dealer! All parlours will milk cows
Timmaay wrote: » DSW did ya look into many other parlours before you settled with the Gascoigne? How old is yours? I've done a far bit of homework by now, milked in a new dairymaster and fullwood also, but neither come anywhere near the price of a Gascoigne so I'm close on doing a deal, just need to haggle the final few quid off it ha!
Viewtodiefor wrote: » Could be worse tim Seen guys milking 130 in a six unit for years
Timmaay wrote: » With bang on 12 rows (72 cows) going through the parlour here now I hate having to recycle cows ha, gives me an extra row! I guess having say 7/8 rows with a 14 unit will take the pressure off in the future!
Viewtodiefor wrote: » Just one or two points on this lads 1) what is easiest way of transferring infection from cow to cow? Ans. milking machine! 2) does a dump line increase this risk? Ans . Yes because you have high cell cows and low cell cows milking at same time. 3) how can this risk be eliminated? Ans. cluster flush system 4) where is data to back all this up? More park trial of contamination in liners after coming off a high cell cow, there was still high risk after six uses of that cluster!!! 5) Lugging milk from pit in buckets is a pain! Yes buckets with their own claw piece reduce risk of cross contamination. 6) throwing out dump lines is rediculas talk. Why throw them out?? Dip clusters after use on high cell cow this helps. 7) consider drafting set up so cows can be drafted as they come in and exit a parlour, this means drafted cows milked last when milking again eliminating cross contamination 8) For above reason a bucket may b a safer option if the budget is tight. But dumplines if used correctly eliminate a lot of hardship, but they can be done without and drafting set up properly (if possible) may b a better option
Timmaay wrote: » Fulwood quoted me 360e per dump bucket, that was theirs and dairymasters preferred method. Gascoigne said there would be no diff in price between 2 or 3 dump buckets/fittings and just a full separate dumpline, so I'll prb just go with that. For anyone with a full dumpline, I assume if you don't use it you don't need to clean it?
stop thelights wrote: » I was going to post this when I just started reading this thread a few minutes ago! At an open recently and talking to a lad that put in a new 20 unit gascoisge. With them you get four separate buckets with claws pieces and you just clip into the vacuum line. Very easy to do and no messing with pipes. Think there 500 per bucket. Dump line is expensive, risk of transfer of milk into tank both accidentally or if a switch failed to divert milk. Also during summer when only used the odd time you'd imagine it would be hard to keep clean! Just said I'd throw that out there
mahoney_j wrote: » Crazy talk,if it's in why throw it out.fair enough it's only used for 6 to 10 weeks of year but you will appreciate it for that time.i have one and haven't used it since mid April but no way would I throw it out.it has its own line ,reception tank,vacuumed and claw pieces(recycled from old parlour).100% seperate from milk line going to tank and no messing with switches which are an accident waiting to happen.cost roughly 1500 to rig up and wire.some lads are gas they'd have shiny new tractors and new jeeps etc and cut and skimp in the place that makes them there money.
Greengrass1 wrote: » The lads today recond it was completely unnecessary ye can make a mistake easily with a cow not supposed to go intoo the tank
Timmaay wrote: » If I go with a dairymaster a dumpline would be 6k of an extra!! Gascoigne can reuse a decent bit from my old parlour tho.
frazzledhome wrote: » Yea, works really well. We made it up and used for a while to spot any problems. Egan happy sent to Galco for dipping. You'll notice in pic 3 a hook on wall holding gate. We found cows could open gate real easy. This is released with a foot pedal in the pit. Also pictured is the arm coming from the parlour. This works better than a counter weight for closing gate. In all a successful job and never need to leave pit
Greengrass1 wrote: » I forgot you had that. Looks the job after the galvanise. Ill definitely do very similar. Works well?
Timmaay wrote: Agreed that the fullwood probably is the best value when it comes to a high spec parlour. Actually one thing their salesman was pushing over some of the cheaper parlours were the use of all silicone hoses instead of rubber, which supposedly last much longer. Anyone any experience with using silicone, is it actually that much better? How many years can you get away with not changing it? The salesman wouldn't give me a straight answer on this ha!
