Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Cian Kiely is a Cork Minor. Ballincollig, Newtown and Sars are clubs building on massive success underage. Two of them are two of the biggest clubs pickwise in Cork. None are in anyway comparable to C'Martyr. Na Piarsigh pick from half of Limerick city ffs. The rest of the post is just rambling and insults.

Just look at the formlines - C'Martyr stumbled past Newcestown/Cloughduv, Ballinhassig hammered the team that knocked out C'Martyr last year. Anyway that went to both semis will tell you who the favourite is. Yet again, smart money is only going one way.

Orizio wrote: »

Yeah I have no idea why anyone would put C'Martyr as over-whelming favourites on Saturday.

Yes we have a lot of experience at junior level...but Hassig have a lot of experience at intermediate/senior level, which I'm inclined to think counts for a lot more. They have a much bigger pick than we do, are able to field 3-4 teams at adult level (to their credit) while we can barely put on a second team. They have been much more successful at an underage level than we have been, and have consistently played at a higher level underage.

Moreover its a 15-20 man game. Yes we have the Lawtons and O'Tuama but we also have a bare squad, have lost a number of important players since last year, and now have 3-4 19 year olds starting or close to starting that have almost no experience playing at a county level. In contrast the Hassig squad has lads experienced at Premier Inter/Senior level and they have the likes of Dineen and Aherne, who was one of the best center-backs in the county for years. In general their team is used to playing at a much higher level of hurling. We've been playing almost non stop over the past 7 weeks, close to every weekend, while Ballinhassig have had a nice break and showed much better form in the semis, hammering the team that knocked us out last year.

All in all the smart money is most definitely on Ballinhassig.

You fool.no one.but yourself

Get out the violin
Every other club has problems more so than castlmwtyr even
Youre clutching at staws with 19 year old parts

Ballincollig just won county senior with cian kiely

Na piarsaigh had ronan ,lynch ,mike casy below 19 won munster clun

I can go on and on
Sars won ist county bout six young lads years ago

Newtown won 2009 jamie coughlan just 17 had few othrr young ladd

I mentioned dinneen and ahern already but ahern a great club player hampered now by injury and lawton apparently untouchable by some should if hes that good be,able for him

This is their second team,dont mind your cobble rubbish,anyone junior ranks gave ballinshaigg no chance really this year

I expect castlematyr to win,many do,ye loose its down to ye not perforning not ballinshaug veen unbeatable

This is junior grade with respect ,yes tough hardly elite all ireland final.

Talk the talk there ,you may convince yourself eventually

goalmouth

CBC play Colmans today in the O Callaghan cup I fancy CBC to win this one a meet mon ag in the semies

Yeah I have no idea why anyone would put C'Martyr as over-whelming favourites on Saturday.

Yes we have a lot of experience at junior level...but Hassig have a lot of experience at intermediate/senior level, which I'm inclined to think counts for a lot more. They have a much bigger pick than we do, are able to field 3-4 teams at adult level (to their credit) while we can barely put on a second team. They have been much more successful at an underage level than we have been, and have consistently played at a higher level underage.

Moreover its a 15-20 man game. Yes we have the Lawtons and O'Tuama but we also have a bare squad, have lost a number of important players since last year, and now have 3-4 19 year olds starting or close to starting that have almost no experience playing at a county level. In contrast the Hassig squad has lads experienced at Premier Inter/Senior level and they have the likes of Dineen and Aherne, who was one of the best center-backs in the county for years. In general their team is used to playing at a much higher level of hurling. We've been playing almost non stop over the past 7 weeks, close to every weekend, while Ballinhassig have had a nice break and showed much better form in the semis, hammering the team that knocked us out last year.

All in all the smart money is most definitely on Ballinhassig.

Sars beaten by eirns own league semi final, i said it eirns own had a chance,sars had no intensity i would think in that game.

Blackrock have golden chance win it now,nice money you win it for the club,certainly not to be,sneezed at.
Good for cork sars are out of it.
Colm.o.neill loss is huge for cork.
Its a mickey mouse game imo comprimse rules i have no time for it

Should be ended

paddy no 11 wrote: »

I doubt it, would only replace one of his brothers kilmallock have other options on the wings/corner.

He is the real deal paddy ,lad has it all
As you know even last year i,was huge fan before even played minor

paddy no 11

I doubt it, would only replace one of his brothers kilmallock have other options on the wings/corner.

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Did Pa get sent off in a league game or is someone telling me pork pies.

Agree sars snappy hurling is well suited to take on kilmallock in their own place, but would still think kilmallock can get the win.

He will be fine for Sunday

Will paddy loughin start kilmallock this year?

Ye got tough u21 draw but tipp at home ,if kiely gets rid of tom ryan
Yan ye could win
Kiely is a very good manager

Colm o neill suffered a,shoulder injury in that ,hybrid of an aussie rules game training,could be out for a while at least ,if the injury is as bad as feared

A player,man i have huge time for,if it is a bad as feared i wish him the best in hes recovery.Awful news ,i feel for him.I hope its not that bad ,and turns out to be just a,scare.

Another promising young hurler suffered bad injiry recently but wasnt as bad as initially feared.

paddy no 11

Did Pa get sent off in a league game or is someone telling me pork pies.

Agree sars snappy hurling is well suited to take on kilmallock in their own place, but would still think kilmallock can get the win.

Farce of draw stucture at minor

Cork be better loosing to limerick at home ,wont happen,but winning is no use as loosing they would get to an all ireland quater final ,as you got to just get to a munster final

As for the hurling ,minor is just as bad,you beat team ist round could meet them in semi final,should be kept apart to til the final.
What a complete joke

Mark my words limerick wont be uo for the ist round game seven last year,they are building,so they will get better benfit in having more games.

Cork must box clever ,yes no one wants to loose games but if the system fails you ,you have no choice but to pick and choose games no point peaking for april being out in july.
What a joke.

I was at Limerick Snr final Sunday and to be blunt Na P were very poor and looked like a team who thought they couldn't be beaten.
Kilmallock hurled well but not sure why but I can't see SARS losing to them in Munster c/ship. Might sound crazy but the tight confines of Kilmallock will suits SARS much more than the Kilmallock lads.

Smith614 wrote: »

TTM... I agree Pa has the talent but hope he can drive on to great things. He is still a lot better than some currently on Cork panel. A natural but wouldn't use the word great yet. ( Ben, Deane, Corcoran etc were great)

Fair point

Some good and bad draws in minor and u21

Minor football ,the cookie will crumble,cork wont be,as lucky next year in yes will.beat limerick handy but we havent hope with current manager beating kerry in semi in kerry so no croke park next year

Minor hurling awful draw,limerick ist round home,but win it likely meet them again in a semi but crucially loose home advantage.

If i was cork.,play ist round,dont win,just try.out lads,will meet waterford then likely as tipp.beat them,wed beat waterford imo

Go down.to limerick we could win but we wont beat them twice ,as they with wallis will learn more in defeat.
Cork must not show their full.hand.
In u21 football brillant draw,ist round easy game,kerry no warm up,we play them in a,semi in cork.

U21 hurling,kenneally is saved by waterford and clare at home so will avoid hammerings
Should they beat waterford,depends on who is their manager,clare be hard to beat,as yes kinnerk and connor are gone but moloney is still there

Overall not great,minor football and hurlers tough draws,but hurling can do.it,good management ,but minor football imo doesnt and has no chance beating all ireland champions in kerry.

TTM... I agree Pa has the talent but hope he can drive on to great things. He is still a lot better than some currently on Cork panel. A natural but wouldn't use the word great yet. ( Ben, Deane, Corcoran etc were great)

Minors at home V Limerick in hurling.
U21 home v Waterford , winners play Clare.
With home/away we seem to have good draws.

To compare him to be as great as ghrame mulchay is not silly.I call it a shrewd comparsion

Ghraeme is a superb hurler,huge fan of him,fast,electric,elusive goal getter,has real bite in hes hurling and pa is every bit as good imo at just 19 can be better simply ,over one main point,he can win ball in the,air consistently,Mulchay,cant,very few can be fast wristy,powerful in the air ubkess,your kilkenny of course,all in the one but Pa is one of those rare exceptions.

Mulchay hurled with ucc,and limerick u 21 won a munster been winnig and competing senior limericl county finals ,he got more exposure to Top level hurling big days.

Pa had no college hurling,no senior club hurling yet,declined senior and u 21 for cork,if he like mulchay played at those levels,he would become great .
Whether he plays for cork remains to be seen.If he does hes game will go up another level.

As for ballinshsig simple fact imo there already team premier intermediate,so junior final imo not the be and end all,this is their second team for them but castlematyr it is poor reflection they dont win it now ,fact take newcestown to a replay,again newcestown second team who also lost players to football,was poor reflection on them.

This is castlematyr ,meant to be the pride of east cork junior hurling, their ist team,three intercounty players this year on it,should be winning it lets call a spade a spade.
No one gave ballinshsig chance at start many fancied castlematyr,its plain and simple .
Castlematr imo have way more to loose in defeat than ballinshig who imo,ballinshsig are a great,i mean great now club and for even just getting to this final have already won with their second team

They have good players,darren dinneen played intermediate for cork i think,mick aherne if fit,fine player ,colin and chris reynolds and won south east junior league but by and large it is their second team.

Producer Ben wrote: »

Before the year started if you told me that Castlemartyr would be in the county final, I would have been delighted for them and would have hoped they'd win. But after seeing them today it left a very bad taste in my mouth. Castlemartyr players were timewasting from the throw in, taking ages to take frees and puckouts. Worse was the referee left them at it for the whole game. He only played 3.5 mins injury time at the end of the game when there should have been at least 6. Also a couple of Castlemartyr players went down "injured" as if they were shot. Throwing themselves to the ground when there wasn't a Cloughduv player near them. Again the referee left them at it.
I also thought that Cloughduv found frees very hard to come by while they came a lot easier for Castlemartyr. Referee was very poor overall.

If what you say is true,poor reflection on castlematyr,seems no real belief in their hurling,and have to win by timewasting against a limited cloughduv,only one,scoring forward in Colm Ryan second time around hardly a sign of a great team ,to be brutally honest.
They have nice hurlers to win junior games handy,can play nice brand of hurling,but then closing out games,must be hard to watch for their fans at times as they make life diffcult for themselves when their is no need to and not always do they answer the hard questions when asked.To convince me,they would,want to win by seven or 8 points,i doubt they will win by that much though.

I agree smith ,kilmallock are not great imo,paddy loughlin should start corner back,still in harty cup,still a minor yes but so too was na piarsaighs mike casey,ronan lynch who both still with ard scoil ris played and played very well for Ns Parsaigh in last years senior club all ireland semi final.
Loughin is a superb prospect for limerick senior hurling in the future.
Sars in a tight ptich ,with a lot of expierenced campaigners,should be,suited by kilmallock,it should be a slow paced tempo game,physicality suit them,ryan,quigley,cian mac etc.In fact i expect cian to have a great game,it suits him this game but we cant get carried away and expect him to do it for Cork in Summer Hurling.

Sars v eirns own in tonights seniors hurling league,sars,should win but may take,foot of gas tonight with kilmallock looming so eirns own have a chance.

In the other semi saturday i hope rockies get revenge on ballymartle for over poor side line calls by browne lost a game they should if won,and unlike that game start niall cashman outstanding in u 21 final.

Its better for cork ,rockies win league outright,as with u 16,minor,u 21 county titles got to push on now and win at senior.
Winning the league be a huge confidence boost after u 21 for a young team for next year,if they dont win the league id get browne out and do all i can to get fergal ryan in as manager,too much talent to just waste away on management if their not up to it.
They have the talent to beat ballymartle a well coached team by crowley,good coach,and indeed sars if
They combine their talent with these three qualites

1 they match their opponents workrate,intensity

2 Get the match ups right
3 play with a real belief,as a team not indivudals

All these three characstics in any team in any sport anywhere in the world can only be got from having a good manager.You dont have a hope of having those,qualites without having a good manager.

Of course Hassig can go up.

Producer Ben

Ballinhassig can get promoted, premier intermediate is a different grade to intermediate a. Don't see why they can't go up if they win.

TTM... You have my club wrong no.1. I am a member of no county Cork club and played most of my Hurling outside the county due to work location. I know lads involved in all clubs and if I suggested the u21 fiasco was all onesided well as u say it takes 2 to tango. Club Bias? What u on about? I said Pa Callaghan is a good player but has nothing done yet to warrant ur tag.
I know the scene around Cork fairly well and to get on ur high horse when Anyone disagrees slightly with u is a bit childish. Iv seen plenty of Ballyhea, Charleville, Newtown, Dromina, Kanturk , Kilmallock etc this yr and don't think there is any special talent coming up in any of those clubs. To Compare Pa to Graeme Mulchay at this stage is a bit Silly. If Sars are worth their salt they will beat a very average Kilmallock team. They will never get a better chance of getting to a munster final.

Smith with respect ,dont talk nonense stuff that would make the grass grow in texas so to speak.

As a charville fan you should know too well how Great pa callaghan is and can be now most charville men acknowkedge that,of course like most clubs in local rivaräy theres a contempt to acknowäedge a smaller parish have a player of a quality,despite ye having some top top young players imo have no one at this time to even come close to Pa,nor have Newtown,dromina,mallow,even kilmallock maybee ghrame mul but he cant win high ball etc,simply as callaghan,dont insult the lad by saying he is just a good player,is a great i mean great young player,as a rare commodity in cork forwards bar cadogan,callaghan is,fast,elusive,lords the air very strong and powerful.

I can understand you dont want to take away from yere big day,fair enough but dont take away from the greatest young forward talent with Cahalane last year in cork that would have played senior and u 21 if he wanted it.

Remember as well,he was on poorly coached minor teams,didnt play u 21,not in colledge as far as im aware,one and only time so far people can view him in a munster game that he,actually first tine,EVER playing on a,well coached team that are not ACTUALLY beaten before they start.

Dont be fooled,lixnaw as kerry teams in the past proved in this grade will be tough,lixnaw have a tough breed of characther,and have,some fine hurlers ,will push ballyhea,so the fact its munster knockout game,neuteals will go to see that game than even hough there both very good teams,charville v fermoy,and both well coached,in the bigger scheme of things Callaghan after two weeks ago is the main attraction.

Good hurlers imo are brian lawton,michael cussen,cathal naughton,Kevin Canty,Fintan O Leary,bud hartnett ,cian maccarthy,Garvan Maccarthy,Niall Moran etc.
To define pa callaghan as good imo put him in that group,and he is much much better than each of them nine out together imo so young and if he decides to play for cork will be great ,truly great if he has a good coach only then, as he is the perfect combination.of guile,craft,hurling intelligence,power,,pace,great hands,Elacstic spring jump,mobility, elusive ,inner resolve,awesome hurling touch score anywhere within sixty yards,is not just good,he is a great,i mean great truly great young talent now.
On poorly coached minor teams he never got a chance to showcase hes talents,Cork hurling failed him,not he failed cork,but on beaten teams he always stood out.
A lot of dromina,meelin,mallow who have connections to some ballyhea lads,kilmalliock etc will go to watch callaghan,kanturk also,as also mallow closer than cork ,and charville v fermoy is a big game but out 35 etc players on show no one can light up a game can pa callaghan can.One point alone in the county final,few could even think bout it,let alone pull it off now.

Smith youre the same fella that said peter finn is just good coach,as trying to say hes not main reason yere much better now.
Claude gough may be popular man in yere town ex player,great servant yes,take pladuits, and im sorry to bust your bubble but lets get real, Peter Finn as hes record proved great,great club coach,in one year hes the Main reason yere young talents got better this year imo.Like any good coach rarely in the spotlight,working hard to get things right.

You tried telling me another local club had a game postponed,always more or less in trouble,complety untrue,takes two to tango.
The club you were on bout it ,is a great club,has been great cork hurling,i admire and like charville but some like you need to actually wake up ,realise other clubs surronding charville,dromina,newtown,ballyhea,meelin,even limericks effin,kilmallock,put ye to shame with on field successs,so get off the high horse and we are above the rest lark just yeu21t just cause yere in a final and breed contempt for others who had,success long before ye now ,and be slow like in callaghans case to acknowledge a special,talent just causes hes from a club down the road from charville.Many would across province go to watch pa play,as there real hurling people,have beeb deprived seeing pa for cork this year.

I will be the first to congratulate charville,dont mind who wins,like,fermoy,both have bright futures,but this club bias out of some i dislike.
In fairness,though i some charville
lads who will like to see ballyhea do well.
Im still waiting for the link on the schools game incident,i heard nothing bout it,while i dont do doubt something may have happened,i have a feeling until i see different with respect you follow the norm,you added two plus two and got a hundred.
Fiction or fact ??
Give me some fact please by link if your good enough to tell bout it in the ist place please,or dont waste my time with half hearted news please then.

As for castlematyr,been beaten by ballinshaig,could happen,but castle have no excuses that happens,talking up ballinshig imo will be done to say if they win,they deserve huge credit upsetting odds,if they loose,like hide behind excuse we never were expected to win.I wont swallow that anchor.

Simple fact it is ballinshaig junior team,not intermediate side,so not great,wont reperesent cork in munster or get promoted as already up,so hunger wont be as much as castle to win who badly need this county title as they need a county,justify all east cork titles,so with lawtons both Cork expierence,tuama variois cork teams they should be,winning it
No excuse if they dont.
You cant be sure,with them' but i think they will stumble to a win,if they loose imo its a,dissaster for them,they will imo never have a better chance to win a,county title.
They should be winning this in truth .

Sink or,swim time,like sarsfields in kilmallock in a few,weeks.Both have no excuse,as both are playing winnable games,and been around a,while now .

ciarriaithuaidh

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://munster.gaa.ie/2014/10/20/corn-ui-mhuiri-round-1/

The dean ryan cup semis cancelled due to a bereavement.
May that person rest in peace

not sure can i make it but i want to see chriost ri ,scroll down,that some panel they have play croke champions ,dingle
Ephie on the sideline with kerrigan,and aidan moyinhan
They were unlucky in the replay last year,they will want revenge

Thats strong dingle panel
Fitmaurice gone as manager it seems?

Fitzmaurice taking a break but Tommy Griffin taking over as Denis said above, he was with them last few years anyway and has huge inter-county experience aswell. Hardly a huge step down.
Chriost Ri beat this Dingle side in the Frewen Cup so would fancy their chances I think. Dingle still have the likes of Marc O'Connor (midfield for Kerry minors) but most of the stars from last season are gone.
St. Brendans are very strong at this age group as they have Micheál Burns and a few others, but Rochestown will probably be favourites with Seán Powter, Evan Ryle, Shane Kingston amongst others on board. They had a comprehensive win over Spraoid Naomh in the Simcox last week.

Speaking of CSN, terrible to hear about their young pupil that died in Wilton at the weekend. Was a fine young football apparently, terrible to hear. Ar dheis dé go raibh a anam.

Thanks Denis

If you hear please the venue and refixed date for the dean ryan cup semi final ,would you please post it

Thanks in advance

Dingles survivors of last year game aproxiatemely nine of them

Brian Ó BeaglaoichAn Ghaeltacht full back
Aodhán Ó ConchúirDaingean Uí Chuis sub defender
Seán Ó GairbhiaAn Ghaeltacht corner back
Marc Ó ConchúirDaingean Uí Chuis midfield

Seanachán Ó Muircheartaigh,
Tom Ó SúllleabháinDaingean Uí Chuis half forward line

Cathal Ó Bambaire andConchúir Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean u both in the full forward line
Seán Ó Bambaire An Ghaeltacht sub

Coláiste Chríost Ri 8 survivors off last year game
Matthew O’Mahoney Nemo
sub keeper
Colm ScullySt. Finbarrs corner back
Corey BuckleySt. Finbarrs half back
Alan O’Callaghan and ian O’CallaghanSt. Finbarrs were midfield

Brian keirns barrs and Chidozie OgbeneNemo Rangers were in the full forward line with john GoodTracton half forward,sub cork minor hurlers v limerick this year

A few dingle lads won all ireland with kerry minors so they will be very hard to beat in what should be a close game .

denishurley

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://munster.gaa.ie/2014/10/20/corn-ui-mhuiri-round-1/

The dean ryan cup semis cancelled due to a bereavement.
May that person rest in peace

not sure can i make it but i want to see chriost ri ,scroll down,that some panel they have play croke champions ,dingle
Ephie on the sideline with kerrigan,and aidan moyinhan
They were unlucky in the replay last year,they will want revenge

Thats strong dingle panel
Fitmaurice gone as manager it seems?

Tommy Griffin is the new manager

TTM.... Crowds going to Mallow to see Pa O Callaghan, are u serious??? Ah calm down boy. Goood player but not the talk of the province.

What odds are Hassig on Saturday? Can see them over-turning C'Martyr.

I think brian kerins is the late rip johns son,great goalie great person

Obizgende could take this competition by storm in paul galvin role,unbelievable minors wouldnt start him despite staring at u 21 level club

Alano callaghan outstanding blackrock u 21 hurling satirday minor hurler cork thos year,some big game player good footballer

West,is fine player also.

http://munster.gaa.ie/2014/10/20/corn-ui-mhuiri-round-1/

The dean ryan cup semis cancelled due to a bereavement.
May that person rest in peace

not sure can i make it but i want to see chriost ri ,scroll down,that some panel they have play croke champions ,dingle
Ephie on the sideline with kerrigan,and aidan moyinhan
They were unlucky in the replay last year,they will want revenge

Thats strong dingle panel
Fitmaurice gone as manager it seems?

sean mac

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

If macarthy went outfield sean,theres one man,only one man young patrick collins just going on.19 but already two as u 21,and three yeats left,what a talent,temparment,superb hands,plays half forward for club,hes unbelievable sean breathtaking saves in walsh park u 21,four beauties,would lost otherwise,two splendid in.minor v limerick

Not too young for sub goalie,cusack was similar

Sean will.be one of the great i mean great,great really great goalies not just in cork.
Younger brother ger is just as good also.

ya fully aware of young Collins, unfortunately he will have the distinction of playing about 5/6 years at moinor and u21 for cork without ever getting out of munster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! getting to a munster u21 final only to be destroyed.............terrible situation for these young cork hurlers to have kenneally for 4 odd years.........but defintaly Collins is next in line after nash