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iroced

Shedite27 wrote: »

Bizarrly, Southampton's season is panning out very similar to last year.

After 8 games...
Last year - 15
This year - 16

Games 9-11 (3 easy fixtures)....
Last year - Ful (h), Sto (a), Hull (h) - 7pts from 3 games
This year - Sto (h), hull (a), Lei (h) - ???

Games 12-21 (rough patch)
Last year - 6 tough games out of 10 - 8pts from 10 games
This year - 7 tough games out of 10 - ???

Obviously totally different team/manager etc, just an interesting observations

Very interesting comparison. Crazy how similar their seasons are... and could be.

Lemlin wrote: »

That leaves defence:

Taylor, PVA, Moore, Duff and Wisdom.

It's definitely in need of some cash. To get Baines, I'd have to drop one of my midfielders or strikers which I'm not happy to do at present. Therefore I think a good defence can still be obtained on a fairly decent budget. I can go PVA to Kaboul for an initial outlay of .5 million and then Duff to Chambers for a second outlay of 0.5 million. That'll leave me with the following fixtures until January 10th and 1 million in the bank:

Wisdom Taylor Chambers Kaboul Moore
Crystal Palace (H) Leicester (H) Sunderland (A) Newcastle (H) Swansea (A)
Leicester (A) Everton (A) Burnley (H) Aston Villa (A) West Brom (H)
Newcastle (H) Arsenal (H) Swansea (A) Stoke (H) Southampton (A)
Chelsea (A) Man City (A) Man Utd (H) Hull (A) Sunderland (H)
Arsenal (H) Crystal Palace (H) West Brom (A) Everton (H) QPR (A)
West Ham (H) QPR (H) Southampton (H) Chelsea (A) Liverpool (H)
Hull (A) West Ham (A) Stoke (A) Crystal Palace (H) Aston Villa (A)
Aston Villa (H) Spurs (H) Newcastle (H) Swansea (A) Man City (H)
QPR (A) Hull (A) Liverpool (A) Burnley (H) West Ham (A)
Man City (H) Aston Villa (H) QPR (H) Leicester (A) Spurs (H)
Stoke (A) Liverpool (A) West Ham (A) Man Utd (H) Hull (A)
West Ham (A) QPR (A) Southampton (A) Chelsea (H) Liverpool (A)
Hull (H) West Ham (H) Stoke (H) Crystal Palace (A) Aston Villa (H)

Chambers and Kaboul rotate perfectly as they play for Arsenal/Spurs. Moore also rotates with Wisdom and Taylor. If the chance arises in two GWs and he is still playing, I think I'd go for Alcaraz in place of Moore but I want to see if he holds his place with Distin lurking.

I certainly think there's plenty of value available in defence with the five players above costing a total of 22 million.

Great post Lemlin.

Looking at the table you posted this looks like the perfect plan. On paper... Have to say I've been burnt by the rotation route several times (with the away CS smiling on my bench...) but in reality it's the only route really.

Only thing is Arsenal are in very poor form at the moment. Only 1 CS. And they don't inspire confidence at the back. Chambers is cheap but he could be a real not such good idea. I'd have a lot more confidence in Spurs and Kaboul. Spurs rotate well with palace (34 games) and Chelsea (30 games) so maybe one of these rotation, albeit more expensive, would prove worthier.

jimmii wrote: »

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

The horrifying thought that has just occurred to me is that instead of RVP/Nolan 2 GWs ago I could have done Aguero/Tadic and had 2 extra transfers to then sort out myself at the back

Hindsight is brilliant. I'll try to stop complaining about my own stupidity soon I promise.

You shouldn't punish yourself like that (your transfers already did it for you!!)

No he's right. Just shows his eager ambition this year. He spent the whole last year chasing from very far back just in the vain hope of a top 100k. This year he's in for glory

. Actually Mr. P did you go down the whole torture route and estimate what eould have been your position had you gone for these 2 moves instead?

jimmii

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Haha, my mate told me about his dancing background as well

Yeh I read about that too! There is literally nothing that man can't do!!

Ziegler1988

jimmii wrote: »

You forgot his stunning good looks. Lets be honest we all want to be him right now.

Haha, my mate told me about his dancing background as well

jimmii

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Considering going Welbeck to Pelle (Tomkins to Wisdom as a makeweight) with my two FTs. I'm scared of Southampton's fixtures and even though I already have Clyne and Bertrand, I feel like Pelle could outscore Welbeck by 10 points or more over the next four GWs. Sunderland A and Burnley H look great on paper, but we haven't been killing any teams (besides a flu-ridden Aston Villa). Pelle has the trifecta of form, fixtures, and growing ownership.

You forgot his stunning good looks. Lets be honest we all want to be him right now.

Ziegler1988

manual_man wrote: »

Similar mindset to myself. Have Welbeck also and have stayed away from Tadic/Pelle. Have already got in Baines myself and had to ditch Fab to do so. Sterling stays. Thankfully not for a hit. Things can go really any way though going forward. But definitely more interesting i think.

Considering going Welbeck to Pelle (Tomkins to Wisdom as a makeweight) with my two FTs. I'm scared of Southampton's fixtures and even though I already have Clyne and Bertrand, I feel like Pelle could outscore Welbeck by 10 points or more over the next four GWs. Sunderland A and Burnley H look great on paper, but we haven't been killing any teams (besides a flu-ridden Aston Villa). Pelle has the trifecta of form, fixtures, and growing ownership.

jimmii

Officer999 wrote: »

Does anyone have a good recommendation for replacing Azpilicueta for the next few weeks? I have nothing in the bank.

Jagielka? Everton have some nice fixtures coming up. If you still want Chelsea coverage could always go with Luis until Azpi is back.

Officer999

Does anyone have a good recommendation for replacing Azpilicueta for the next few weeks? I have nothing in the bank.

jimmii

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

The horrifying thought that has just occurred to me is that instead of RVP/Nolan 2 GWs ago I could have done Aguero/Tadic and had 2 extra transfers to then sort out myself at the back

Hindsight is brilliant. I'll try to stop complaining about my own stupidity soon I promise.

You shouldn't punish yourself like that (your transfers already did it for you!!)

Mr.Prodston

The horrifying thought that has just occurred to me is that instead of RVP/Nolan 2 GWs ago I could have done Aguero/Tadic and had 2 extra transfers to then sort out myself at the back

Hindsight is brilliant. I'll try to stop complaining about my own stupidity soon I promise.

jimmii

km79 wrote: »

anybody else not adverse to aguero picking up an injury that will keep him out for 2\3 weeks

Nah he's fine as he is thanks!

jimmii

FHFC wrote: »

Yeah his stats were fantastic, he was due a big week. I'd have had him in but was maxed out on Southampton players.

Yeh lots of value there right now. Considering the summer activity Koeman has done an incredible job.

km79

anybody else not adverse to aguero picking up an injury that will keep him out for 2\3 weeks

CSF

Chesty08 wrote: »

As I said my frustration of being a Liverpool supporter made me pull the trigger. That said, I was still was thinking along the lines of "if these other hams were half decent Sterling would have a bucket loads of FF points" , ...his bonus 2 speaks for itself

He is a necessity in my eyes, Liverpool need to score plenty as they concede plenty. Therefore there midfielders also score high (look at henderson and Gerrard' FF points too). Sterling is the point of all that is good.

Particularly when Sturridge comes back he is a must have in my eyes.

To be honest, in that case, I'd be reassessing your required criteria for making a transfer rather than this one individually.

Never log onto the website, decide on a transfer, and make the transfer all in the one sitting.

There needs to be a stepaway period where you reevaluate and there should be no circumstances where you break that.

People who don't do that will frequently make mistakes. Realistically, you should be making your plans in the early stages of the previous gameweek, readjusting them based on what happens in the gameweek, but not actually pulling the trigger until the last possible minute where you won't suffer any negative impact from not making it earlier (price rises/drops etc)

FHFC

jimmii wrote: »

Hard to argue with Tadic he has stayed under the radar but he has been putting up big numbers its just a shame he exploded the way he did now the secret is out!

Yeah his stats were fantastic, he was due a big week. I'd have had him in but was maxed out on Southampton players.

jimmii

G1032 wrote: »

Yup. I'm thinking myself I'm going to avoid the Tadic route. It'll leave me with no Southampton attacking cover but if Welbeck can match or better Pelle then I'll be grand. I'll miss out on price rises and making cash but so be it. I'll probably go down the Baines route and I'll need to sell Sterling but at the moment his replacement won't be Tadic. This is all subject to change!!

Hard to argue with Tadic he has stayed under the radar but he has been putting up big numbers its just a shame he exploded the way he did now the secret is out!

manual_man

G1032 wrote: »

Yup. I'm thinking myself I'm going to avoid the Tadic route. It'll leave me with no Southampton attacking cover but if Welbeck can match or better Pelle then I'll be grand. I'll miss out on price rises and making cash but so be it. I'll probably go down the Baines route and I'll need to sell Sterling but at the moment his replacement won't be Tadic. This is all subject to change!!

Similar mindset to myself. Have Welbeck also and have stayed away from Tadic/Pelle. Have already got in Baines myself and had to ditch Fab to do so. Sterling stays. Thankfully not for a hit. Things can go really any way though going forward. But definitely more interesting i think.

jimmii

manual_man wrote: »

I think this GW could well be a defining GW when we look back on the fpl season. Majority of people are dropping one premium mid (Sterling/Fab/ADM), a lot are punting on Baines. Add Tadic/Pelle in to the equation. Ramsey is back now and a proper differential with a great set of fixtures. The Walcott factor. I'm loving this game right now. So many permutations and i can see a lot of differentiation in teams going forward. Fpl is at its worst for me when teams are overly-similar.

Yeh it makes a great change to the clear template teams which have emerged in the last few years there seem to be so many more options this year.

G1032

manual_man wrote: »

I think this GW could well be a defining GW when we look back on the fpl season. Majority of people are dropping one premium mid (Sterling/Fab/ADM), a lot are punting on Baines. Add Tadic/Pelle in to the equation. Ramsey is back now and a proper differential with a great set of fixtures. The Walcott factor. I'm loving this game right now. So many permutations and i can see a lot of differentiation in teams going forward. Fpl is at its worst for me when teams are overly-similar.

Yup. I'm thinking myself I'm going to avoid the Tadic route. It'll leave me with no Southampton attacking cover but if Welbeck can match or better Pelle then I'll be grand. I'll miss out on price rises and making cash but so be it. I'll probably go down the Baines route and I'll need to sell Sterling but at the moment his replacement won't be Tadic. This is all subject to change!!

jimmii

MR NINE wrote: »

As you said yourself, your defence is awful. Cameron and yoshida arent playing, lovren is a liverpool defender and krul and coloccini play for newcastle. All these issues need addressing, so i wouldnt use a transfer to ditch hazard if i were you. Hazard tends to deliver in big games for chelsea, and they face a poor united defence this weekend, not a time to axe him imo. He scored against arsenal and assisted against city, and he looked really good in both games.

As far as defence goes, clean sheets arent easy to come by, and are even harder to predict at the moment. I think people should go one of two ways with their defenders; cheap and regular starter, or attacking threat. Baines is obviously a big attacking threat, but i wouldnt rush to get him straight away. Id look at wisdom for either yoshida or cameron. Lovren is at home to hull this week so you may as well keep him and play him alongside naylor and a new addition. Id definitely be looking to offload him in the near future though

Yeh Lovren has just the one week left but will try extract a little value out of him this week and then move him on! Only reason to ditch Hazard would be have the funds for Baines and I would fancy Baines & Chadli to outscore Hazard and Yoshida quite comfortably its not a transfer I would want to do otherwise Hazards time will no doubt come and with United then QPR having fairly obliging defenses then this could be his time! That basically just leaves the money already in defence to rearrange it which doesn't really give many options and none of them particularly attractive Wisdom looks OK for this week but fair from someone you want to be playing too often! I guess Yoshida, Lovren & Cameron > Wisdom, Alderweireld & Kaboul? Something like that. I wish we had a mini defender only wildcard so I can rip it up and start again!!

manual_man

FHFC wrote: »

This thread shows that, as people were predicting in the Matchday thread, the events of this week have thrown peoples teams up in the air a bit.

From very quiet transfers threads lately every man and his dog is now considering multiple options. Its bloody exhausting!

Having looked at multiple options where I was definitely getting Tadic, then definitely getting Baines, then definitely getting Eriksen I'm now thinking simply swapping Siggy to Tadic (which will require a change of keeper from Forster to either Howard or maybe even Sczesny). Have 2 FTs.

I'm basing this on Siggy being the worst performing of the template 4. Would like to give ADM and Sterling more time.

I think this GW could well be a defining GW when we look back on the fpl season. Majority of people are dropping one premium mid (Sterling/Fab/ADM), a lot are punting on Baines. Add Tadic/Pelle in to the equation. Ramsey is back now and a proper differential with a great set of fixtures. The Walcott factor. I'm loving this game right now. So many permutations and i can see a lot of differentiation in teams going forward. Fpl is at its worst for me when teams are overly-similar.

FHFC

This thread shows that, as people were predicting in the Matchday thread, the events of this week have thrown peoples teams up in the air a bit.

From very quiet transfers threads lately every man and his dog is now considering multiple options. Its bloody exhausting!

Having looked at multiple options where I was definitely getting Tadic, then definitely getting Baines, then definitely getting Eriksen I'm now thinking simply swapping Siggy to Tadic (which will require a change of keeper from Forster to either Howard or maybe even Sczesny). Have 2 FTs.

I'm basing this on Siggy being the worst performing of the template 4. Would like to give ADM and Sterling more time.

Fenson

kolczastyy wrote: »

Forster
Baines, Chambers, Bertrand (Hutton, Moore)
Silva, Siggy, ADM, Fabregas (Elmohamady)
Pelle, Lukaku, Costa

I did 2FT and additionally change for -4 and 0.0 in bank.

Ullola, Balotelli, Schneiderlin -> Pelle, Lukaku, Elmohamady.

Here is ready squad for GW9. I really doubt about Silva and definitely its last chance to show off. But I still deeply believe and look for differences in private league.

I know Saints will have more difficult schedule in 4 gameweeks, so need to change Forster in few weeks I guess. Bertrand could assist anyway and Pelle is obvious.

Maybe I did mess with Elmohamady (could buy e.x. Obertan and save 0,5M).

What do you propose as next moves? I'm glad with my defence but midfielders... ADM -> Hazard? Silva -> Sterling? Liverpool looks poor for now, but Silva as well. Siggy + Fabs -> Hazard , Diame? It's plenty of that...

Elmohamady... I guess you will regret that move soon. It would be better if you buy Obertan or Boyd. They are my favourite subs at the moment.

Lukaku is a good transfer I think (refering to Everton fixtures). It would be a great captain option.

If you want sell Silva, think about Spurs player. Eriksen/Chadli would be options. And Forster -> Lloris. Liverpool has decent fixtures so you should have their player. Henderson is 90 minutes guarantee. Sterling could rest after Madrid match. Coutinho/Lallana also options.

Cheers

kolczastyy

Forster
Baines, Chambers, Bertrand (Hutton, Moore)
Silva, Siggy, ADM, Fabregas (Elmohamady)
Pelle, Lukaku, Costa

I did 2FT and additionally change for -4 and 0.0 in bank.

Ullola, Balotelli, Schneiderlin -> Pelle, Lukaku, Elmohamady.

Here is ready squad for GW9. I really doubt about Silva and definitely its last chance to show off. But I still deeply believe and look for differences in private league.

I know Saints will have more difficult schedule in 4 gameweeks, so need to change Forster in few weeks I guess. Bertrand could assist anyway and Pelle is obvious.

Maybe I did mess with Elmohamady (could buy e.x. Obertan and save 0,5M).

What do you propose as next moves? I'm glad with my defence but midfielders... ADM -> Hazard? Silva -> Sterling? Liverpool looks poor for now, but Silva as well. Siggy + Fabs -> Hazard , Diame? It's plenty of that...

MR NINE

jimmii wrote: »

Foster - Krul
Yoshida - Colo - Naylor - Lovren - Cameron
Tadic - Boyd - Hazard - Siggy - Sterling
Costa - Aguero - Pelle

2FTs and 0.3m ITB

Defence is shockingly bad but have never had the chance to fix it until now but funds are tight. Was thinking:

Hazard & Yoshida>Chadli & Baines

Looks good on paper is there anything more obvious I have missed?

As you said yourself, your defence is awful. Cameron and yoshida arent playing, lovren is a liverpool defender and krul and coloccini play for newcastle. All these issues need addressing, so i wouldnt use a transfer to ditch hazard if i were you. Hazard tends to deliver in big games for chelsea, and they face a poor united defence this weekend, not a time to axe him imo. He scored against arsenal and assisted against city, and he looked really good in both games.

As far as defence goes, clean sheets arent easy to come by, and are even harder to predict at the moment. I think people should go one of two ways with their defenders; cheap and regular starter, or attacking threat. Baines is obviously a big attacking threat, but i wouldnt rush to get him straight away. Id look at wisdom for either yoshida or cameron. Lovren is at home to hull this week so you may as well keep him and play him alongside naylor and a new addition. Id definitely be looking to offload him in the near future though

Chesty08

CSF wrote: »

What? If you transferred him out, keep him out, he isn't that much of a necessity.

But I wouldn't have taken him out in the first place tbh. Should never make transfers without giving them at least 24 hours thought and analysing the various different factors for getting rid of someone and bringing the alternative in.

As I said my frustration of being a Liverpool supporter made me pull the trigger. That said, I was still was thinking along the lines of "if these other hams were half decent Sterling would have a bucket loads of FF points" , ...his bonus 2 speaks for itself

He is a necessity in my eyes, Liverpool need to score plenty as they concede plenty. Therefore there midfielders also score high (look at henderson and Gerrard' FF points too). Sterling is the point of all that is good.

Particularly when Sturridge comes back he is a must have in my eyes.

Nerdlingr

jimmii wrote: »

Foster - Krul
Yoshida - Colo - Naylor - Lovren - Cameron
Tadic - Boyd - Hazard - Siggy - Sterling
Costa - Aguero - Pelle

2FTs and 0.3m ITB

Defence is shockingly bad but have never had the chance to fix it until now but funds are tight. Was thinking:

Hazard & Yoshida>Chadli & Baines

Looks good on paper is there anything more obvious I have missed?

Lovren - Rose
Foster - Elliott
Yoshida - Alderwield
Colo - Chambers
Cameron - Wisdom

Sorted!

jimmii

MR NINE wrote: »

What can people tell me about chadli?

Basically he has proven to be good value so far. So far this season he has a bigger goal threat than Hazard or Sterling and well ahead of Eriksen which shows how good value he has been. He has performed above expectation but he is definitely good value. He is really an enabler allowing you to spend 30m upfront without lowering your midfield points expectancy too much.

jimmii

Foster - Krul
Yoshida - Colo - Naylor - Lovren - Cameron
Tadic - Boyd - Hazard - Siggy - Sterling
Costa - Aguero - Pelle

2FTs and 0.3m ITB

Defence is shockingly bad but have never had the chance to fix it until now but funds are tight. Was thinking:

Hazard & Yoshida>Chadli & Baines

Looks good on paper is there anything more obvious I have missed?

MR NINE

What can people tell me about chadli? I havent watched spurs much this season, only the liverpool and city games. The liverpool game they were poor, against city they looked like a threat in attack. Chadli didnt necessarily standout, but they seemed to be getting joy from winning the ball in the opposition half and attacking quickly and directly from there, which benefits their front four of course.

From watching chadli last season i was unimpressed, seemed like a bit of a dud and not the smartest player. However, he loves to shoot, which is certainly an ff asset. His stats this season are very good so far, he seems to have nailed down a starting place and is getting his fair share of goals. Im wary of relying on stats alone as ive barely seen him in action this season. Have people seen a lot of spurs? Is he playing well and likely to keep his place? Have his returns been fortunate? There seems to be a few people considering signing him and a few considering ditching him. Id be interested to here peoples logic behind their decisions/considerations

Lemlin

Shedite27 wrote: »

I'd prefer Rose as a Spurs 5.0m defender myself.

Kaboul is more assured of his place as captain IMO.