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I was on Amazon(US) earlier today and saw that is up for pre-order GTA V is set for a PC release on the 27th of Jan 2015. It was priced up at $60 which probably means it could be on stream for €60 and cheaper elsewhere.

I feel the 60 mark is a bit steep for a game that will be 1 year and 4 month and 10 days old by the time a PC user can play it. I was expecting maybe it around the 40euro mark.

Saying that it will still sell like hot cakes and ill too pick it up.

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gizmo

Kiith wrote: »

Is there any reason why we expect pc games to be cheaper than the console versions? I know it's almost always been that way, and i'm not complaining, but is it reasonable to expect it to be cheaper considering how much more work is required to get the game running on a wide variety of machines?

In my opinion? No, it's a completely unreasonable expectation for precisely those reasons. Keyword there being expectation though, I'd don't particular mind the disparity existing and when it comes to pricing I find there to be far more worrisome trends to consider anyway.

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Because you usually can't resell a used PC game? Console game might cost €60, but if you finish it within a week or two then you can usually get €20 or €30 on a trade in.

The difference in pricing between console and PC existed before the second hand market was really established. It was there alright but it wasn't nearly strong enough to offset the cost so much as it is now.

RobertFoster wrote: »

PC games were traditionally cheaper because there was no platform owner to pay (carts, testing, marketing, etc.). Steam and similar do take a cut now, but I don't believe it to be as large as what Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo look for.

On the contrary, the platform cut comes in at about 20% of the retail price whereas Steam's cut is around the 30% mark.

Mark Hamill

Kiith wrote: »

Is there any reason why we expect pc games to be cheaper than the console versions?

Because you usually can't resell a used PC game? Console game might cost €60, but if you finish it within a week or two then you can usually get €20 or €30 on a trade in.

RobertFoster

PC games were traditionally cheaper because there was no platform owner to pay (carts, testing, marketing, etc.). Steam and similar do take a cut now, but I don't believe it to be as large as what Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo look for.

I have noticed that big console focused games, like Watchdogs and Titanfall for example, have been priced similarly when they make it to PC. It doesn't annoy me as there is such a wide selection of games to play, by the time I get around to buying these ones the prices will have dropped. I feel I miss out on the zeitgeist and launch hype, but I can live with that.

Kiith

Is there any reason why we expect pc games to be cheaper than the console versions? I know it's almost always been that way, and i'm not complaining, but is it reasonable to expect it to be cheaper considering how much more work is required to get the game running on a wide variety of machines?

GTAV isn't just a port of the already released version though, its the 'next gen' version that is getting re-released on the current consoles as well.

gizmo

nesf wrote: »

Given Titanfall was €60 and so was Sims 4, I'm curious why you think it's a placeholder automatically. (Origin prices here, not Amazon ones)

Simply because of the price parity between platforms and Amazon's tendency to do such a thing until pricing has been confirmed from suppliers. The fact that GMG prices are also currently staggered from varying base price points per platform is also a decent indicator.

No idea of Origin prices at all to be honest, last time I booted it up was for the free copy of Dead Space making it the third copy of the game I have lying around. :P

nesf

lmimmfn wrote: »

theyre pulling the same crap with Dragon Age : Inquisition and Far Cry 4, trying to price PC games at console prices( even on GreenManGaming ), well good luck to them, ill wait a few weeks and pick them up for 25euro or later in a steam sale.

It looks to be Origin only, so no steam sales for you I'm afraid. EA have been getting better for sales though.

nesf

Given Titanfall was €60 and so was Sims 4, I'm curious why you think it's a placeholder automatically. (Origin prices here, not Amazon ones)

gizmo

Rebel Rebel wrote: »

I feel the 60 mark is a bit steep for a game that will be 1 year and 4 month and 10 days old by the time a PC user can play it. I was expecting maybe it around the 40euro mark.

Why so? Do you think the game will have aged so much in that time that it's worth 30% less on launch?

Personally I'm far more interested to see how well the game has been ported to the PC and will be using that as a metric to judge when I should pick it up.

As for it's current price, there's a high chance it's only a place holder for now and will be lowered closer to launch.

lmimmfn wrote: »

theyre pulling the same crap with Dragon Age : Inquisition and Far Cry 4, trying to price PC games at console prices( even on GreenManGaming ), well good luck to them, ill wait a few weeks and pick them up for 25euro or later in a steam sale.

May want to check again.

In the case of DA:I, on Amazon the prices appear to be placeholder again with all of them hovering in and around the £39 mark. On GMG the prices are staggered as per usual.

With Far Cry 4, at least in terms of the Limited Edition, the prices are also staggered as you'd expect.

lmimmfn

theyre pulling the same crap with Dragon Age : Inquisition and Far Cry 4, trying to price PC games at console prices( even on GreenManGaming ), well good luck to them, ill wait a few weeks and pick them up for 25euro or later in a steam sale.