Mr.S wrote: » Jesus. I don't even know if you are joking, there are worse things to be worrying about.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Not really no. IMF "owned" by a rich Jewish family? Please don't bring conspiracy theories into After Hours, keep them where they belong.
Most European countries have water charges, Ireland has been an anomaly in that regard for decades and our water infrastructure has suffered as a result. Indirect taxation does not provide sufficient funds to maintain our infrastructure nevermind upgrade it and the haphazard unco-ordinated management by local authorities has done more harm than good. Our infrastructure needs more funds and to be placed under a single authority. I don't agree with everything IW does but water charges and a single body to collect them are a necessity.
They are defending made up rights. You do not have the right to treated water.
No, I'm paying general taxation. Previously an insufficient amount of money was taken from that pool of money and our infrastructure suffered as a result. Now that money that was previously siphoned off can go towards closing our deficit.
Irish water is not a private company. It is a subsidiary of Bord Gáis.
Whether the protesters asked for my sympathy is irrelevant to the fact they don't have it...
Iwasfrozen wrote: » All the chemicals in the world baby. The fact that no one takes conspiracy theories seriously makes my chemicals taste even sweeter.
Wurly wrote: » This information is available freely from wherever you choose to look. Take your head out of the sand. It's embarrassing.
I'll repeat again - you are already paying for water!! We could have reformed the system without introducing yet another tax.
Made up rights? Are you serious? I actually don't even know how to respond to that. You are saying that a human being does not have a right to unpolluted drinking water? That's just incredible.
And you know why this defict happened, right? Bailing out bondholders? Or is that another 'conspiracy theory' in your eyes? There is plenty of money to go towards our infrastructure. But some people are too f*cking greedy to share their wealth.
Wrong. Look up solocheck.ie and find Irish Water. You will see it listed as a private company. Perhaps before dismissing facts as conspiracy theories, you could actually do some research? It scares me how easily people can be brainwashed.
Again, more petty and unnecessary arrogance. I don't know what you think this will achieve? I always thought that if people knew the truth, they would WANT to take their power back. A group of cronies surely couldn't brainwash a society en mass to line their own pockets? But it seems that they can and this is sad. It appears that you're either not ready or completely unwilling to see how you are being taken for a fool. But that's absolutely your choice and I respect your decision.
You see, it's after quotes like this that I just can't have a further discussion with you. The comment is just so ridiculous, it's actually pretty scary. So I'm out
Tony EH wrote: » "Data that we collect from you may be transferred to a destination outside the European Economic Area ("EEA")"http://www.water.ie/data-protection-notice/ "The woman" on Pat Kenny is indicative of the "gobshites" that have been placed in charge of this most valuable asset. She probably hasn't the first clue, but is an FG buddy trotted out to parrot the required bullshit her position demands. Why anybody would want to hand over information to these people is incredible.
Householders with a suspected water leak are reported to be facing a minimum call-out charge of €188 from Irish water. The Sunday Times reports that this fee covers any problem detected after the first fix, which will be free. The company has also sought permission to charge a minimum call-out fee for working out of office hours of €282 for the first hour and €141 for any additional hour. It is also believed to be seeking approval from the Commission for Energy Regulation to introduce a range of other charges - including a €220 fee to test water pressure, and a €17 fee for a special meter reading.
EricPraline wrote: » Irish Water keeps on giving and giving...http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-water-call-out-charge-plans-revealed-645848.html €188 just for call out during office hours. A typical call-out for a plumber in South Dublin is €70-100. They must have must be some unique calibre of expert working for Irish Water.
dxhound2005 wrote: » I have no leaks on my side anyway, and if one does arise I will get it fixed for free.
Satriale wrote: » There's no such thing as free, your neighbours will pay for it, the same as your "free" allowance.
dxhound2005 wrote: » The Sunday Times says it's free, is that not good enough for you?The Sunday Times reports that this fee covers any problem detected after the first fix, which will be free.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Not all but it's fair to say a higher proportion than would be statistically expected are unemployed.
Guy:Incognito wrote: » Is this a case of assumeing everyone outside the Eu are thieves looking to steal your info?
Satriale wrote: » I'd like to sell you this nice doorbell for 200k, i like you so much im going to throw in the house. Credit card and PPS no please? :pac:
dieselbug wrote: » Spin Spin Spin Spin, I suspect. The real fees will probably fall about 15-20% below these figures, then weare all supposed to go, phew that"s not too bad, at least better than what we feared. See how cynical politics and politicians have made me?
Maybe they should just take your word for it on how many kids are in the house etc? It's not a big stretch to think that there would be more allowances claimed for water for children than there are children in the state......
Its not telling lies to get water, its telling lies to not pay for water your getting. You can use and pay for all the water you like without giving your pps number, thats a choice your free to make
Wurly wrote: » This is a very good article from Gene Kerrigan in the Irish Independent today.http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/gene-kerrigan/time-to-ask-why-are-we-doing-this-30674782.html
Little CuChulainn wrote: » In fact they have stated the complete opposite.http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-water-prime-time-1687029-Sep2014/
lorenzo87 wrote: » If a huge majority of people refuse to pay, what can they do? Put 500,000 people in jail? We have had enough, I'm not paying these charges, I am not handing out any information, I have not received an application pack, they are the most unorganised suspect company I have ever come across, they don't have a clue what they are doing. Typical Irish gob****es just letting government and in this case a semi-state company force this on us, it is a huge bill that people can't afford to pay. Throw me in jail, don't care, not a cent will they see.
In Lonesome Dove wrote: » Good god. There are so many older houses built decades ago still going today. God only knows what the water pipes are like with these older houses. I know my family home was built back in the 80s. Many people just wouldn't have this kind of money.
dxhound2005 wrote: » If I was a betting man like yourself I would wager that you will pay. But I would not risk a cent on you being thrown into jail.
lorenzo87 wrote: » I won't pay. And anyone that does is a muppet. Out basic living right is some bloody water (which is already paid for apparently). I would sooner leave Ireland than pay for water, because this country is now a complete KIP.
